Make GTAOE require LOS?

Started 10 Sep 2020
by lolhisup
in Open Community Votes
Thu 10 Sep 2020 8:16 PM by lolhisup
#141668
I think it was voted on in the past on whether or not to allow GTAOE to be cast without line of sight, I am wondering if this could be done again?
Thu 10 Sep 2020 8:51 PM by DinoTriz
#141675
Wouldn't that make it just a regular AOE spell then?

If I had to have LOS, I'd just use my AOE instead. It does more damage and it doesn't have a 6 second cooldown.
Thu 10 Sep 2020 8:55 PM by lolhisup
#141676
I would suggest some type of change then. Maybe increase recast time, reduce distance, maybe like the animist shroom nerf limit the amount of GTAOE per area, etc.. I am not a developer. Even if the LOS thing was implemented, it still differs from a targeted AoE because it can be cast without a enemy player/npc target, for what it's worth, not to be too technical. A la, try to see if a stealther is in the area, differing from a PBAOE.
Thu 10 Sep 2020 9:03 PM by DinoTriz
#141678
The spells themselves are tucked away in spec lines that aren't very popular, in classes that aren't very popular. The GTAOE spells essentially have one situational use. Sure, they can be devastating when people team up and coordinate but I'd say you shouldn't punish people when they use good strategy.
Thu 10 Sep 2020 9:20 PM by lolhisup
#141679
That is the case for Hib and for Mid. On Alb it is the go to spec that everybody uses and on top of this, there are so many Wizards because they are strong in PvE for leveling with Ice spec and so it is quick and a lot easier to level a Wizard than other classes because Ice spec is so desired in xp groups, so you have a million Wizards with a million GTAOE.

A hard change to GTAOE might create a new problem but maybe there is a way to tone it down so it isn't so strong, imo.
Fri 11 Sep 2020 7:08 AM by Centenario
#141732
Just give it 90sec cooldown like the volley for archers.
1% contribute 90%
Sat 12 Sep 2020 4:45 PM by boridi
#141899
Centenario wrote:
Fri 11 Sep 2020 7:08 AM
Just give it 90sec cooldown like the volley for archers.

Sure, as soon as they make GTAE do >400 dmg + DOT proc like volley
Tue 15 Sep 2020 12:21 PM by Nunki
#142190
Centenario wrote:
Fri 11 Sep 2020 7:08 AM
Just give it 90sec cooldown like the volley for archers.
I haven't played for quite some time.
But I would focus the limitations on the target itself.

- Only get hit by GTAE as long as you are in los to the gtae.
- Make target immune to gtae damage/rupt for duration X (e.g. 10 seconds) after getting hit by gtae damage.
- Probably move Wizard GTAE from Earth to Cold line. Earth line is totally stuffed with utility up to the point where I would call it OP.

The core problem is that the gtae damage of X enemies (mostly hordes of earth wizards) accumulates to a serious amount of damage AND avoiding any kind of regeneration during defense, causing deaths without actual contact. Add a huge amount of pets (especially Neco servants) aggroing INTO the keep and you die just by gtae damage and rupt.
Tue 15 Sep 2020 12:49 PM by gotwqqd
#142194
Way overblown
As was the volley crying and nerf
Tue 15 Sep 2020 2:29 PM by DinoTriz
#142208
Nunki wrote:
Tue 15 Sep 2020 12:21 PM
I haven't played for quite some time.
But I would focus the limitations on the target itself.

- Only get hit by GTAE as long as you are in los to the gtae.
- Make target immune to gtae damage/rupt for duration X (e.g. 10 seconds) after getting hit by gtae damage.
- Probably move Wizard GTAE from Earth to Cold line. Earth line is totally stuffed with utility up to the point where I would call it OP.

The core problem is that the gtae damage of X enemies (mostly hordes of earth wizards) accumulates to a serious amount of damage AND avoiding any kind of regeneration during defense, causing deaths without actual contact. Add a huge amount of pets (especially Neco servants) aggroing INTO the keep and you die just by gtae damage and rupt.

Sounds like the problem is Earth Wizards, not GTAOE.

Move their GTAOE to Fire (like it should be - like the other realms, into their bolt line)

Solved.

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