Gratz Galantor RR12

Druth wrote: ↑

Thu 8 Aug 2019 10:08 AM

Sepplord wrote: ↑

Thu 8 Aug 2019 8:31 AM

Druth wrote: ↑

Thu 8 Aug 2019 7:44 AM

But how...?
Multi account is "easy", especially when across realms.
Plat for $ is doable with some detective work.
Bug abuse is obvious.

But how do you detect when someone else is using an account?

Someone accessing an account 100km or miles away from last login point, a minute after logging out, for example.

My point is more though, that the 1PC = 1account rule, has loads of false positives too. When someone shows someone else the game, it would be natural for me to let them make their own account (if they were intrested) and "playtest" on their own account. That way they don't lose process when going home and deciding to keep playing. I am not even sure if during name-reservation weekend, my brother logged in at my house to reserve a name. We played beta before, so had accounts...but if he wouldn't ave had one, he would have created one from my PC. And then now his account would be perma banned (at least that's how i interpret the current discussions and rulechanges).

Even with people living in the same household, there are reason for separate accounts. Sharing access to everything ingame requires trust and equal knowledge about the game...especially with your kids playing i am sure that can lead to problems between siblings. And now with accountwide gold it is impossible to share an account while each person keeping their own funds, even if everyone is responsible and trustworthy. And when you get more computers down the road...then one person has to start completely over? I could go on and on about it.
Yeah, if the multiple created accounts start crossrealming or breaking other rules, sure hit them hard. But simply perma-ing all but one account that were created from one computer seems like a sure thing to hit loads of innocent members of the community (and it is pure luck that it hasn't hit me or one of my friends, everyone with loads of playtime on their respective accounts)

First of all, and with the risk of becoming unpopular... lets dispense with the "loads of innocent" people. "Loads of people professing innocence" might be true.
Remember, just because your "bestsest" friend in DaoC says he doesn't cheat, doesn't make it any less true or a lie.

Second, to my knowledge the intent is for households to be able to play together, with each of their own account, and in the same realm.
Many are being investigated, and some are likely just that, and most will be "freed" again.

That brings us back to several people using same account.
The rules of multi account are crystal clear.
Same IP address: X persons X accounts 1 realm.
There is no proximity rule, that says people in your neighborhood has to play same realm as you.

You want to bring in a proximity rule, that can be extremely arbitrary.
What should the distance and time to re-log be? Should it take into account city and traffic?
50 miles in rural and urban area is not the same in regards to travel time.
Would it stop people sharing account? Or would they just wait 30 mins, and then log in?
What if I forgot to log out at home, and went to work. It autologs after what... 30 mins? I arrive at work and log in, technically making it 1 min.
Should I be banned?
Can I let my daughter play my account?

Rules are great, but if you can't make them simple, they are really bad.


And again, Galantor would have been RR11l3 if he only played half the time. Which excuses would people then give for them still being in the top?