teiloh wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 12:03 AMhttps://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/kills?time-frame=last-week&filter=all
https://ibb.co/qWS1P80
https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/kills?time-frame=this-week&filter=all
https://ibb.co/S6zJL2h
Leandrys wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 5:27 AMteiloh wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 12:03 AMhttps://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/kills?time-frame=last-week&filter=all
https://ibb.co/qWS1P80
https://herald.playphoenix.online/characters/kills?time-frame=this-week&filter=all
https://ibb.co/S6zJL2h
You idiot or something ? Really, you can not see what mistake did you just do ?
gruenesschaf
Stop bringing logic into a post about OF being more active than NF ;-).gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 10:01 AMNot exactly sure what you're trying to point out, that Monday - Sunday UTC has more kills and rp than Monday - Thursday UTC? "This Week" at this time covers 64% of the time that "Last Week" covers (107 hours vs 168)
Halcyon702 wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 3:37 PMNF was never about population, it has always been about slowing down everyone's progress in terms of RP/h. There are 20+ people who are RR11 after 5 months so instead of character wipe, and removing keep bonuses and other incentives they already gave folks, they know NF will do all the things they want and when people finally notice they screwed themselves, devs will say they voted for it.
I've been saying that from the beginning and I wanted to test the theory by suggesting this idea in the server discord, I was instantly banned and the comments were deleted from the discord.
The next question is, if they knew it would kill the server population, why are they dragging people along chasing the carrot on the stick? I remember I had to manually remove a Coin Miner from my pc not too long ago, I dont know if it was the launcher flagging as a trojan but its been over 10 years since ive had to do anything like that.
Food for thought, keep an eye on your stuff guys.
They will probably ban my forum account now same as they did in discord, the post may or may not be deleted, hope u guys spread the word.
teiloh wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 1:48 PM
I doubt things are going to go in a way I don't predict, I frequently check top earners and PK and Gor are both way down in fights/hr.
There definitely are more people playing for 8-12 hours at a time though, it could be better server stability or maybe those that like NF like to play it for a long time, which is good for server pop (maybe not their health, lol)
gruenesschaf
Halcyon702 wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 3:37 PMNF was never about population, it has always been about slowing down everyone's progress in terms of RP/h. There are 20+ people who are RR11 after 5 months so instead of character wipe, and removing keep bonuses and other incentives they already gave folks, they know NF will do all the things they want and when people finally notice they screwed themselves, devs will say they voted for it.
I've been saying that from the beginning and I wanted to test the theory by suggesting this idea in the server discord, I was instantly banned and the comments were deleted from the discord.
The next question is, if they knew it would kill the server population, why are they dragging people along chasing the carrot on the stick? I remember I had to manually remove a Coin Miner from my pc not too long ago, I dont know if it was the launcher flagging as a trojan but its been over 10 years since ive had to do anything like that.
Food for thought, keep an eye on your stuff guys.
They will probably ban my forum account now same as they did in discord, the post may or may not be deleted, hope u guys spread the word.
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 5:43 PMMost people pointing to the RR11 after 5 month fail to also check the kill count, if you compare it with Uthgard for example, in most cases (Ignoring solos and some outlier due to not capping the keep multiplier earlier) those having the same rank have between 70 and 85% of the kills. Did we intend to have a 30% RP bonus? Not really but even without it, assuming we'd have the same rvr participation (which we would not have had without the incentives like the tasks) it would only be adding another month or 2 for the same result.
You can now ofc argue that it was bad to reduce the dead time by removing the porter ceremony, adding instant release to the tks and later teleporting but the reduction of the dead time had the greatest effect on the rp gain per time for those that play a lot. The tasks / incentives as well as rather short time to get rvr ready then caused a lot more people to play rvr, combined with nearly zero dead time that means kills are happening at a much faster rate and consequently a much faster rp gain curve.
What part of that kill count is suicide for task count ?gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 5:43 PMMost people pointing to the RR11 after 5 month fail to also check the kill count, if you compare it with Uthgard for example, in most cases (Ignoring solos and some outlier due to not capping the keep multiplier earlier) those having the same rank have between 70 and 85% of the kills. Did we intend to have a 30% RP bonus? Not really but even without it, assuming we'd have the same rvr participation (which we would not have had without the incentives like the tasks) it would only be adding another month or 2 for the same result.
You can now ofc argue that it was bad to reduce the dead time by removing the porter ceremony, adding instant release to the tks and later teleporting but the reduction of the dead time had the greatest effect on the rp gain per time for those that play a lot. The tasks / incentives as well as rather short time to get rvr ready then caused a lot more people to play rvr, combined with nearly zero dead time that means kills are happening at a much faster rate and consequently a much faster rp gain curve.
One does not simple suicide to RR11.florin wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 7:34 PMWhat part of that kill count is suicide for task count ?gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 5:43 PMMost people pointing to the RR11 after 5 month fail to also check the kill count, if you compare it with Uthgard for example, in most cases (Ignoring solos and some outlier due to not capping the keep multiplier earlier) those having the same rank have between 70 and 85% of the kills. Did we intend to have a 30% RP bonus? Not really but even without it, assuming we'd have the same rvr participation (which we would not have had without the incentives like the tasks) it would only be adding another month or 2 for the same result.
You can now ofc argue that it was bad to reduce the dead time by removing the porter ceremony, adding instant release to the tks and later teleporting but the reduction of the dead time had the greatest effect on the rp gain per time for those that play a lot. The tasks / incentives as well as rather short time to get rvr ready then caused a lot more people to play rvr, combined with nearly zero dead time that means kills are happening at a much faster rate and consequently a much faster rp gain curve.
Ceen wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 9:32 PMOne does not simple suicide to RR11.florin wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 7:34 PMWhat part of that kill count is suicide for task count ?gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 5:43 PMMost people pointing to the RR11 after 5 month fail to also check the kill count, if you compare it with Uthgard for example, in most cases (Ignoring solos and some outlier due to not capping the keep multiplier earlier) those having the same rank have between 70 and 85% of the kills. Did we intend to have a 30% RP bonus? Not really but even without it, assuming we'd have the same rvr participation (which we would not have had without the incentives like the tasks) it would only be adding another month or 2 for the same result.
You can now ofc argue that it was bad to reduce the dead time by removing the porter ceremony, adding instant release to the tks and later teleporting but the reduction of the dead time had the greatest effect on the rp gain per time for those that play a lot. The tasks / incentives as well as rather short time to get rvr ready then caused a lot more people to play rvr, combined with nearly zero dead time that means kills are happening at a much faster rate and consequently a much faster rp gain curve.
They killed that many people while you were busy suiciding.
alusnova415 wrote: ↑Sat 29 Jun 2019 5:43 PMI'm sure the devs are watching population levels but I see 300ish each realm prime EU on a Saturday...I hope is not because everyone is watching Germany vs Sweden world cup game....
Halcyon702 wrote: ↑Fri 28 Jun 2019 3:37 PMNF was never about population, it has always been about slowing down everyone's progress in terms of RP/h. There are 20+ people who are RR11 after 5 months so instead of character wipe, and removing keep bonuses and other incentives they already gave folks, they know NF will do all the things they want and when people finally notice they screwed themselves, devs will say they voted for it.
I've been saying that from the beginning and I wanted to test the theory by suggesting this idea in the server discord, I was instantly banned and the comments were deleted from the discord.
The next question is, if they knew it would kill the server population, why are they dragging people along chasing the carrot on the stick? I remember I had to manually remove a Coin Miner from my pc not too long ago, I dont know if it was the launcher flagging as a trojan but its been over 10 years since ive had to do anything like that.
Food for thought, keep an eye on your stuff guys.
They will probably ban my forum account now same as they did in discord, the post may or may not be deleted, hope u guys spread the word.
teiloh wrote: ↑Sat 6 Jul 2019 5:07 PMWeek ending 6/30
https://ibb.co/Sn0Db8T
https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html
Looks like a lot of people stopped logging on immediately due to NF, and not many are returning for NF as many argued would happen.
Sepplord wrote: ↑Mon 8 Jul 2019 8:16 AMteiloh wrote: ↑Sat 6 Jul 2019 5:07 PMWeek ending 6/30
https://ibb.co/Sn0Db8T
https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html
Looks like a lot of people stopped logging on immediately due to NF, and not many are returning for NF as many argued would happen.
could you elaborate where you see that?
When i look at the overall population in the link you posted i do not see any acceleration in the population-drop after NF implementation.
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