QoL suggestion. 20% Explorer merchant charge

Started 26 Mar 2019
by Sevorin
in Suggestions
Just an idea, but I don't see a need for a 20% charge on the Explorer merchant. Was hoping you guys would be able to remove it.
Tue 26 Mar 2019 6:29 PM by teiloh
Maybe have it go down with number of keeps taken.
Wed 27 Mar 2019 2:44 AM by Mauriac
teiloh wrote:
Tue 26 Mar 2019 6:29 PM
Maybe have it go down with number of keeps taken.

or just have it go down. make it 10 or 5% if you want the convenience fee. 20% is a bit obscene. we shouldn't be trying to remove the amount of plats in the game at this point. especially since feathers and their exchange rate keep the economy relatively inflation free.
Wed 27 Mar 2019 6:23 AM by Sepplord
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 2:44 AM
teiloh wrote:
Tue 26 Mar 2019 6:29 PM
Maybe have it go down with number of keeps taken.

or just have it go down. make it 10 or 5% if you want the convenience fee. 20% is a bit obscene. we shouldn't be trying to remove the amount of plats in the game at this point. especially since feathers and their exchange rate keep the economy relatively inflation free.
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Inflation is already happening...and how should feathers keep the economy steady? They are also mass-farmed constantly and are not directly linked ingame with a gold cost, aka both can fluctuate individually
Wed 27 Mar 2019 11:53 AM by Mauriac
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 6:23 AM
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 2:44 AM
teiloh wrote:
Tue 26 Mar 2019 6:29 PM
Maybe have it go down with number of keeps taken.

or just have it go down. make it 10 or 5% if you want the convenience fee. 20% is a bit obscene. we shouldn't be trying to remove the amount of plats in the game at this point. especially since feathers and their exchange rate keep the economy relatively inflation free.
?
Inflation is already happening...and how should feathers keep the economy steady? They are also mass-farmed constantly and are not directly linked ingame with a gold cost, aka both can fluctuate individually

except they are directly linked in-game with a gold cost. you spend feathers on items at the bits & pieces merchant, specifically for crafting. 5k feathers amounts to 1 plat worth of mats hence why feathers keep a consistent exchange rate of 5k feathers for 1 plat. a 20k feather item by extension costs 4 plat on the open market which is why you dont see the stupidity of items going for 20,30,40p. . this is the case in mid. is this different elsewhere?
Wed 27 Mar 2019 3:26 PM by Sepplord
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 11:53 AM
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 6:23 AM
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 2:44 AM
or just have it go down. make it 10 or 5% if you want the convenience fee. 20% is a bit obscene. we shouldn't be trying to remove the amount of plats in the game at this point. especially since feathers and their exchange rate keep the economy relatively inflation free.
?
Inflation is already happening...and how should feathers keep the economy steady? They are also mass-farmed constantly and are not directly linked ingame with a gold cost, aka both can fluctuate individually

except they are directly linked in-game with a gold cost. you spend feathers on items at the bits & pieces merchant, specifically for crafting. 5k feathers amounts to 1 plat worth of mats hence why feathers keep a consistent exchange rate of 5k feathers for 1 plat. a 20k feather item by extension costs 4 plat on the open market which is why you dont see the stupidity of items going for 20,30,40p. . this is the case in mid. is this different elsewhere?

Did i miss a direct link? The only mats i purchased at the bits merchant are phoenix ashes and tears....and since they aren't sold for gold otherwise, how is that a link?
The 1plat per 5k feathers is (afaik) an arbitrary playermade value. The offers are already going up too, seeing someone offer more than 3p for a standard 15k item has already happened in midgard and the more money people amass the more they will be willing to pay for feathers. Especially when the feather raids might see a decline / or take longer because less people attend
Wed 27 Mar 2019 3:42 PM by Ashenspire
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 3:26 PM
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 11:53 AM
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 6:23 AM
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Inflation is already happening...and how should feathers keep the economy steady? They are also mass-farmed constantly and are not directly linked ingame with a gold cost, aka both can fluctuate individually

except they are directly linked in-game with a gold cost. you spend feathers on items at the bits & pieces merchant, specifically for crafting. 5k feathers amounts to 1 plat worth of mats hence why feathers keep a consistent exchange rate of 5k feathers for 1 plat. a 20k feather item by extension costs 4 plat on the open market which is why you dont see the stupidity of items going for 20,30,40p. . this is the case in mid. is this different elsewhere?

Did i miss a direct link? The only mats i purchased at the bits merchant are phoenix ashes and tears....and since they aren't sold for gold otherwise, how is that a link?
The 1plat per 5k feathers is (afaik) an arbitrary playermade value. The offers are already going up too, seeing someone offer more than 3p for a standard 15k item has already happened in midgard and the more money people amass the more they will be willing to pay for feathers. Especially when the feather raids might see a decline / or take longer because less people attend

The only items I saw going for more than 1p/5k are the rarer kills (such as Nosdoden) or when new items are added and people want them immediately (such as Legion)
Thu 28 Mar 2019 6:19 AM by Sepplord
uhh...yes because the current value of feathers in midgard is set at 1plat per 5k...
It's different in other realms, that have a different economy, and it will change in midgard too, depending what bottleneck shows to be the bigger one (i expect feathers will rise in price overtime, as they are a groupfarm activity, while anyone can farm plats at anytime, but that's just my personal assumption)
Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:08 PM by Keelia
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 11:53 AM
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 6:23 AM
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 2:44 AM
or just have it go down. make it 10 or 5% if you want the convenience fee. 20% is a bit obscene. we shouldn't be trying to remove the amount of plats in the game at this point. especially since feathers and their exchange rate keep the economy relatively inflation free.
?
Inflation is already happening...and how should feathers keep the economy steady? They are also mass-farmed constantly and are not directly linked ingame with a gold cost, aka both can fluctuate individually

except they are directly linked in-game with a gold cost. you spend feathers on items at the bits & pieces merchant, specifically for crafting. 5k feathers amounts to 1 plat worth of mats hence why feathers keep a consistent exchange rate of 5k feathers for 1 plat. a 20k feather item by extension costs 4 plat on the open market which is why you dont see the stupidity of items going for 20,30,40p. . this is the case in mid. is this different elsewhere?


Apparently you don’t play hib. 20k is like 7p now.
Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:47 PM by Mauriac
Keelia wrote:
Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:08 PM
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 11:53 AM
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 6:23 AM
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Inflation is already happening...and how should feathers keep the economy steady? They are also mass-farmed constantly and are not directly linked ingame with a gold cost, aka both can fluctuate individually

except they are directly linked in-game with a gold cost. you spend feathers on items at the bits & pieces merchant, specifically for crafting. 5k feathers amounts to 1 plat worth of mats hence why feathers keep a consistent exchange rate of 5k feathers for 1 plat. a 20k feather item by extension costs 4 plat on the open market which is why you dont see the stupidity of items going for 20,30,40p. . this is the case in mid. is this different elsewhere?


Apparently you don’t play hib. 20k is like 7p now.

You have animists and holding df for the first 3 weeks to blame for that
Fri 29 Mar 2019 12:17 AM by Keelia
Mauriac wrote:
Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:47 PM
Keelia wrote:
Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:08 PM
Mauriac wrote:
Wed 27 Mar 2019 11:53 AM
except they are directly linked in-game with a gold cost. you spend feathers on items at the bits & pieces merchant, specifically for crafting. 5k feathers amounts to 1 plat worth of mats hence why feathers keep a consistent exchange rate of 5k feathers for 1 plat. a 20k feather item by extension costs 4 plat on the open market which is why you dont see the stupidity of items going for 20,30,40p. . this is the case in mid. is this different elsewhere?


Apparently you don’t play hib. 20k is like 7p now.

You have animists and holding df for the first 3 weeks to blame for that

So holding DF for 3 weeks 2 months ago is affection the cost of feathers now, please explain.
Fri 29 Mar 2019 12:37 AM by Mauriac
Keelia wrote:
Fri 29 Mar 2019 12:17 AM
Mauriac wrote:
Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:47 PM
Keelia wrote:
Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:08 PM
Apparently you don’t play hib. 20k is like 7p now.

You have animists and holding df for the first 3 weeks to blame for that

So holding DF for 3 weeks 2 months ago is affection the cost of feathers now, please explain.

That was supposed to be a joke.
Fri 29 Mar 2019 12:51 AM by Riac
Mauriac wrote:
Fri 29 Mar 2019 12:37 AM
Keelia wrote:
Fri 29 Mar 2019 12:17 AM
Mauriac wrote:
Thu 28 Mar 2019 10:47 PM
You have animists and holding df for the first 3 weeks to blame for that

So holding DF for 3 weeks 2 months ago is affection the cost of feathers now, please explain.

That was supposed to be a joke.

the animist portion is true though.
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