what is wrong with ppl. is it really all u see RPs . why do i see ppl adding on 1v1 why do fgs trample down solo or duos. where is the honor, where is the skill
Dominus wrote: ↑Tue 26 Feb 2019 2:00 PMlots of stealthers, and I've noticed some new zerg stealther groups now.. Which if you played at the end of beta you recall just how many stealthers there were.
"you fail to stealth, too many stealthers in RvR!"
Snoogy wrote: ↑Tue 26 Feb 2019 4:57 PMI more or less have retired my ranger because of assassins and vanish. Leveling an Eldy and will be playing my bard more. I will add a pos stealthier at literally any opportunity.
Vanish is a trash skill for trash players
Snoogy wrote: ↑Tue 26 Feb 2019 4:57 PMI more or less have retired my ranger because of assassins and vanish. Leveling an Eldy and will be playing my bard more. I will add a pos stealthier at literally any opportunity.
Vanish is a trash skill for trash players
Patron wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 12:12 AMEven i would like to see a 8vs8 arena where the 8vs8 can meet.
Ofc with reduced or no rpgain.
Cause its not RvR
Lollie wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 9:42 AMPatron wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 12:12 AMEven i would like to see a 8vs8 arena where the 8vs8 can meet.
Ofc with reduced or no rpgain.
Cause its not RvR
This isn't a bad idea, I'd love to see how many of the 8v8 complainers would use it. I get the feeling it wouldn't be many.
cocio_dk wrote: ↑Tue 26 Feb 2019 1:25 PMwhat is wrong with ppl. is it really all u see RPs . why do i see ppl adding on 1v1 why do fgs trample down solo or duos. where is the honor, where is the skill
No white knights anymore?Mac wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 9:57 AMcocio_dk wrote: ↑Tue 26 Feb 2019 1:25 PMwhat is wrong with ppl. is it really all u see RPs . why do i see ppl adding on 1v1 why do fgs trample down solo or duos. where is the honor, where is the skill
This version of DAoC isn't about honor OR skill. It's an all casual all the time easy version of clasic DAoC. Easy to level, easy to gear up, and easy to get RPs.
Mac wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:36 AM
I think the staff made a decision to appeal to casual players cause there's lot's of them out there. DAoC is a game that's only fun when lots of people are playing, so IMO, staff made good decisions to appeal to the widest audience. All wise decisions, we'll have to see if it's still appealing after a few weeks.
Becoming the New King of the Hill after the elites have quit is a bit like winning the special Olympics, no?Durgrim wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:56 AMMac wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:36 AMI think the staff made a decision to appeal to casual players cause there's lot's of them out there. DAoC is a game that's only fun when lots of people are playing, so IMO, staff made good decisions to appeal to the widest audience. All wise decisions, we'll have to see if it's still appealing after a few weeks.
Leaving elitists with boreout syndrome leads to subpar ppl being the new elite you know: The King is dead! Long live the King!
Are you saying winners of the special olympics are not outstanding athletes?Mac wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 11:00 AMBecoming the New King of the Hill after the elites have quit is a bit like winning the special Olympics, no?Durgrim wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:56 AMMac wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:36 AMI think the staff made a decision to appeal to casual players cause there's lot's of them out there. DAoC is a game that's only fun when lots of people are playing, so IMO, staff made good decisions to appeal to the widest audience. All wise decisions, we'll have to see if it's still appealing after a few weeks.
Leaving elitists with boreout syndrome leads to subpar ppl being the new elite you know: The King is dead! Long live the King!
Sepplord wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 11:36 AMAre you saying winners of the special olympics are not outstanding athletes?Mac wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 11:00 AMBecoming the New King of the Hill after the elites have quit is a bit like winning the special Olympics, no?Durgrim wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:56 AMLeaving elitists with boreout syndrome leads to subpar ppl being the new elite you know: The King is dead! Long live the King!
TBF though, there is a reason that sports have different leagues for loads of people. There is not only one league for each sport, but lesser leagues for lower skilled prossionals, semi-professionals, hobby-athletes and casuals. Having them all compete on the same playing field doesn't make sense for sports and kills fun for everyone that wants to compete on similar footings.
DAoC isn't about similar footings though so comparing it to high competitive environments will always lead to people bending the analogy to their likings.
In the end, if a high population is your goal, you appeal to the casual mass and not to the 1%...that's a fact. The question is though: is population really the main-target of the Staff or is it just one factor that is just as important as others.
Durgrim wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 12:20 PMThis is what most do forget about...the more suggestions and change demands I read the more grumpy I'd get as Staff.
There is a difference between 'Howdy folks, would you consider or think about having XX increased a bit?' and
'stop the portals into the FZ now ffs!!!111elf'
then you are [edit - Personal Attack] just donating rps, vanish is good to pop an animist in a group and then vanish away! or good to have a 1v1 and then BAM a fg shows up and you can vanish away to fight another day!dbeattie71 wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 3:27 AMSnoogy wrote: ↑Tue 26 Feb 2019 4:57 PMI more or less have retired my ranger because of assassins and vanish. Leveling an Eldy and will be playing my bard more. I will add a pos stealthier at literally any opportunity.
Vanish is a trash skill for trash players
I don’t have vanish, I go down with the ship, plus it’s a waste of points imo.
Expfighter wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 8:21 PMthen you are [edit - Personal Attack] just donating rps, vanish is good to pop an animist in a group and then vanish away! or good to have a 1v1 and then BAM a fg shows up and you can vanish away to fight another day!dbeattie71 wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 3:27 AMSnoogy wrote: ↑Tue 26 Feb 2019 4:57 PMI more or less have retired my ranger because of assassins and vanish. Leveling an Eldy and will be playing my bard more. I will add a pos stealthier at literally any opportunity.
Vanish is a trash skill for trash players
I don’t have vanish, I go down with the ship, plus it’s a waste of points imo.
it's part of the game, no different than purge or IP or anything else!
dbeattie71 wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:49 PMExpfighter wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 8:21 PMthen you are [edit - Personal Attack] just donating rps, vanish is good to pop an animist in a group and then vanish away! or good to have a 1v1 and then BAM a fg shows up and you can vanish away to fight another day!dbeattie71 wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 3:27 AMI don’t have vanish, I go down with the ship, plus it’s a waste of points imo.
it's part of the game, no different than purge or IP or anything else!
Heh, I'm being stupid by having better passives, ok. I didn't say I always go down with the ship, I choose targets carefully. What's nuts is swinging once on a SB with 100% health and having them vanish, a few times I was unbuffed, they would have probably won easy. But yeah, I'd rather spend the points elsewhere, even if it makes me 'stupid'.
edit: I don't have purge either
Expfighter wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 11:09 PMdbeattie71 wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 10:49 PMExpfighter wrote: ↑Wed 27 Feb 2019 8:21 PMthen you are[edit - Personal Attack] just donating rps, vanish is good to pop an animist in a group and then vanish away! or good to have a 1v1 and then BAM a fg shows up and you can vanish away to fight another day!
it's part of the game, no different than purge or IP or anything else!
Heh, I'm being stupid by having better passives, ok. I didn't say I always go down with the ship, I choose targets carefully. What's nuts is swinging once on a SB with 100% health and having them vanish, a few times I was unbuffed, they would have probably won easy. But yeah, I'd rather spend the points elsewhere, even if it makes me 'stupid'.
edit: I don't have purge either
passives aren't going to save you from a fg, vanish will! but your playstyle not mine.
Also sometimes my buffs drop in the middle of a fight and i get jumped before the minute to rebuff is up!
Pirhana7 wrote: ↑Fri 1 Mar 2019 6:57 PMIts not so much adding that bothers me, its when a FG runs over a solo non stealth class, even worse when it is a speed less class.
That solo is out there looking for a 1v1, or even would gladly find a 2v1. but every time a FG kills that solo player in a fight that is zero challenge and gives very little rewards to the group, it makes the solo player not want to come out anymore and eventually they will stop coming out, which hurts the game because it is removing small man fights.
I understand its RVR, red is dead, ect but that doesn't mean you HAVE to kill that solo guy that is not part of a keep defense or task and is just looking for a 1v1. Just run by him and keep looking for an enemy group.
If they added on 1 of your fights before kill um, if they are trying to get to a keep to defend kill um, if they are an Animist or Moinstrel kill um. But leave the solo alone who is just looking for a 1v1. They are not a threat to your realm at that time.
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