Remove 9 sec stun from Bm´s and Mercs

Think it would only be fair to remove slam or even shield from Blademasters and mercenaries.

Seems way too op atm for at light tank.

Sun 17 Feb 2019 3:42 PM by Luluko

Diradora wrote: ↑
Sun 17 Feb 2019 2:41 PM
Think it would only be fair to remove slam or even shield from Blademasters and mercenaries.

Seems way too op atm for at light tank.

yeah thats one change which live did good champ/pala/reaver should also lose it and make it shorter like it is on live the people with skill can than drop shield to 35 and use the sitestun which is longer

Sun 17 Feb 2019 4:24 PM by teiloh

"Alb and Hib have too many stuns"

- Sincerely, realm with 11s baseline casted stun, AOE stun, and instant AOE stun

Sun 17 Feb 2019 6:16 PM by Kampfar

Finally someone makes a thread about that. I wonder that no one in beta wrote sth ...

In before close, so be Quick

Sun 17 Feb 2019 9:54 PM by relvinian

I die a lot right after being slammed. Even so, with purge in the game i don't think it should be removed.

Mon 18 Feb 2019 6:20 AM by dansari

teiloh wrote: ↑
Sun 17 Feb 2019 4:24 PM
"Alb and Hib have too many stuns"

- Sincerely, realm with 11s baseline casted stun, AOE stun, and instant AOE stun

To be fair, "Alb and Hib have too many stuns" isn't the topic of the OP whatsoever.

Mon 18 Feb 2019 10:47 AM by Cwtch

Diradora wrote: ↑
Sun 17 Feb 2019 2:41 PM
Think it would only be fair to remove slam or even shield from Blademasters and mercenaries.

Seems way too op atm for at light tank.

Whilst their at it can they remove the BASELINE 9s Stun on Hib casters..... ty , Put it intoa SPECLINE

Mon 18 Feb 2019 11:28 AM by Bradekes

I would be all for this, except with determination being on all melee classes casted stuns aren't strong enough. There would be nothing to slow anyone down....

Mon 18 Feb 2019 12:04 PM by Druth

I for one am much more grateful for root on my caster, than stun.

Sure I'd get yelled at for rooting a det9 tank, so they can't be snared, but imagine how angry the tanks would be if they found out I had used a casted stun on a det9 tank...

Root is a killer of push group, having your support rooted when you charge over a hill means your group is dead.

But casted stuns are nice in static battles.

Mon 18 Feb 2019 12:32 PM by Sepplord

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 11:28 AM
I would be all for this, except with determination being on all melee classes casted stuns aren't strong enough. There would be nothing to slow anyone down....

So Midgard has nothing to slow anyone down?

i don't neccessarily agree with outright removal of slam on BM/merc but that counter argument is really silly, every class on midgard with slam has a counterpart on hib/alb with slam. Bersi doesn't have it though.

it's a realm imbalance for sure, is it one that needs to be adressed or is it one of the differences, is a different question

Mon 18 Feb 2019 12:39 PM by Luluko

teiloh wrote: ↑
Sun 17 Feb 2019 4:24 PM
"Alb and Hib have too many stuns"

- Sincerely, realm with 11s baseline casted stun, AOE stun, and instant AOE stun

which are affected by resists/det and interruptleable and maybe last 2seconds then, slam on the other hand... only purge helps there, if slam would last only 6 or 7 secs it would still be specced and it would still be useful

Mon 18 Feb 2019 1:50 PM by Bradekes

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 12:32 PM
So Midgard has nothing to slow anyone down?

i don't neccessarily agree with outright removal of slam on BM/merc but that counter argument is really silly, every class on midgard with slam has a counterpart on hib/alb with slam. Bersi doesn't have it though.

it's a realm imbalance for sure, is it one that needs to be adressed or is it one of the differences, is a different question

Thanes and warrior have slam... Berserkers are all out offense so they don't get slam... Every 8 man should run warrior, they are the best fighter class in the game so take advantage.

Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:10 PM by Sepplord

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 11:28 AM
I would be all for this, except with determination being on all melee classes casted stuns aren't strong enough. There would be nothing to slow anyone down....

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 1:50 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 12:32 PM
So Midgard has nothing to slow anyone down?

i don't neccessarily agree with outright removal of slam on BM/merc but that counter argument is really silly, every class on midgard with slam has a counterpart on hib/alb with slam. Bersi doesn't have it though.

it's a realm imbalance for sure, is it one that needs to be adressed or is it one of the differences, is a different question

Thanes and warrior have slam... Berserkers are all out offense so they don't get slam... Every 8 man should run warrior, they are the best fighter class in the game so take advantage.

i am a bit confused about why you think i needed that lecture...i was responding to your comment about nothing being there to slow anyone down...listing all the other that are still there to "slow someone down" with melee stuns. I think you misunderstood something in my comment.

Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:19 PM by Bradekes

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:10 PM
I am a bit confused about why you think i needed that lecture... I think you misunderstood something in my comment.

It read like you were saying zerkers needed slam... Which would be weird.. Guess you weren't saying that?

Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:33 PM by Sepplord

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:19 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:10 PM
I am a bit confused about why you think i needed that lecture... I think you misunderstood something in my comment.

It read like you were saying zerkers needed slam... Which would be weird.. Guess you weren't saying that?

nah, i meant more that there would still be plenty of slams in alb/hib if BMs and Mercs would lose it. (not saying they need to lose it though)

Mon 18 Feb 2019 2:39 PM by Ashenspire

Mercs and BMs losing Slam would change nothing, as the Reaver/paladin/armsman/hero/champion on their melee trains would just pick up the slack.

Midgard unfortunately has this hard on wherein all Warriors must stay back and peel and can't be in the train. That's more of a problem than mercs/BMs having redundant skills.

Mon 18 Feb 2019 4:44 PM by teiloh

Luluko wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Feb 2019 12:39 PM
which are affected by resists/det and interruptleable and maybe last 2seconds then, slam on the other hand... only purge helps there, if slam would last only 6 or 7 secs it would still be specced and it would still be useful

If it's so bad, give it to Clerics.