Put in NF Mastery of Stealth RA. Make it available to all Stealthers except Minstrels. Make it available to all main Tanks (not Hybrids).
Turtle006 wrote: ↑Sat 20 Oct 2018 5:18 PMMake people earn the exp from 1-50 on a stealther and there will be a whole lot less of them. In other words, I don't think it will be as big an issue once beta is done.
Turtle006 wrote: ↑Sat 20 Oct 2018 5:18 PMMake people earn the exp from 1-50 on a stealther and there will be a whole lot less of them. In other words, I don't think it will be as big an issue once beta is done.
Jax wrote: ↑Sat 20 Oct 2018 2:56 PMThe solution to the stealth problem is to give an alternative to solo / small man groups other than Stealth or Speed classes. This alternative doesn't exist because of Speed 6. If you are a visible class, you must have Speed 6 otherwise your experience is dog shit because you get gobbled up by bigger forcers (8 mans or zergs).
Remove the ability for Sprint + Speed to stack.
Implement Speed 5 mounts that take a 5 second cast time and get knocked off with damage.
This will fix the stealth problem because it gives people alternatives to play. I hate the stealther class - yet I have to play it because I prefer the non-8 man or zerg play style.
Jax wrote: ↑Sat 20 Oct 2018 2:56 PMThe solution to the stealth problem is to give an alternative to solo / small man groups other than Stealth or Speed classes. This alternative doesn't exist because of Speed 6. If you are a visible class, you must have Speed 6 otherwise your experience is dog shit because you get gobbled up by bigger forcers (8 mans or zergs).
Remove the ability for Sprint + Speed to stack.
Implement Speed 5 mounts that take a 5 second cast time and get knocked off with damage.
This will fix the stealth problem because it gives people alternatives to play. I hate the stealther class - yet I have to play it because I prefer the non-8 man or zerg play style.
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Thu 25 Oct 2018 2:57 PMThis is why I'm advocating that light tanks get a version of MoS. It allows stealthers to play the way the want to play but it also gives them a counter.
kedelin wrote: ↑Thu 25 Oct 2018 3:22 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Thu 25 Oct 2018 2:57 PMThis is why I'm advocating that light tanks get a version of MoS. It allows stealthers to play the way the want to play but it also gives them a counter.
Like light tanks are not powerful enough you wanna give them mos??? If you run around on anystealther un stealth you don't stand a chance in melee... the element of surprise is a sneaks best offense
imissswg wrote: ↑Thu 25 Oct 2018 6:38 PMIIRC MoS on this server only increases movement speed while stealthed, and not detect range. Even if they made it where it influences detect range, how many LTs are going to spend enough RPs for MoS 6 just to be even with stealthers? A solo stealther will still avoid you, and a stealth zerg will still kill you.
Nepenthe wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 3:01 AMJust curious, why do people think stealthers need nerfed? They already have a hard time against most classes. Is it that they feel steathers can hunt and kill with impunity of 8 mans? Or do people feel the need to play a stealther in order to not get run over by 8mans or zergs?
Nepenthe wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 3:01 AMJust curious, why do people think stealthers need nerfed? They already have a hard time against most classes. Is it that they feel steathers can hunt and kill with impunity of 8 mans? Or do people feel the need to play a stealther in order to not get run over by 8mans or zergs?
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 7:23 AMNepenthe wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 3:01 AMJust curious, why do people think stealthers need nerfed? They already have a hard time against most classes. Is it that they feel steathers can hunt and kill with impunity of 8 mans? Or do people feel the need to play a stealther in order to not get run over by 8mans or zergs?
I think the main problem that people have with stealthers isn't when they jump you 1v1, it's because they 4v1 or 8v1 without you ever having a chance to see them
Druth wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 8:02 AMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 7:23 AMNepenthe wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 3:01 AMJust curious, why do people think stealthers need nerfed? They already have a hard time against most classes. Is it that they feel steathers can hunt and kill with impunity of 8 mans? Or do people feel the need to play a stealther in order to not get run over by 8mans or zergs?
I think the main problem that people have with stealthers isn't when they jump you 1v1, it's because they 4v1 or 8v1 without you ever having a chance to see them
That is mainly a problem for me when I listen to their motivation for playing stealther "solo/smallman visible gets rolled by fg's". It baffles me people can't see their hypocracy.
Druth wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 10:13 AM
You know what the meaning of that quote means...?
And how poorly it works in a game that revolves around attacking each other?
It implies that stealthers should leave people alone, unless they wanted to fight.
It works in the context of people complaining about others using cheat codes in single player games (even though they are animals!!!).
Kaziera wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 5:22 PMDruth wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 10:13 AM
You know what the meaning of that quote means...?
And how poorly it works in a game that revolves around attacking each other?
It implies that stealthers should leave people alone, unless they wanted to fight.
It works in the context of people complaining about others using cheat codes in single player games (even though they are animals!!!).
I doubt ian fleming had anything to do with single player games.
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 6:02 PMKaziera wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 5:22 PMDruth wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 10:13 AMYou know what the meaning of that quote means...?
And how poorly it works in a game that revolves around attacking each other?
It implies that stealthers should leave people alone, unless they wanted to fight.
It works in the context of people complaining about others using cheat codes in single player games (even though they are animals!!!).
I doubt ian fleming had anything to do with single player games.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoldenEye_007_(1997_video_game)
Kaziera wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 6:07 PM
You realize there was a novel and after that a movie and after that the game came out? 😂😂
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Fri 26 Oct 2018 6:09 PM
I know. I just posted that because the game is apparently the gold standard among FPS games and set the stage for FPS games to follow. Also I was being facetious.
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