Mcnasty..Outro

Started 29 Apr 2020
by Mcnasty
in RvR
This is just a heads up to those of you I fight on a regular basis and may notice my absence..

Mcnasty is deleted. Don't use a mouse recorder kids. Pretty severe punishment for a 1st time offense, but rules are rules. I will be making something new in 14 days...hope to see you solo's out there again in the near future.

-Mcnasty
Wed 29 Apr 2020 4:56 PM by Riac
what is a mouse recorder ?
they deleted your char?! damn...
Wed 29 Apr 2020 4:57 PM by Mcnasty
Used a little mouse recorder on my necro to click heal ability, farming XP tokens. I'm still in shock that all my characters are deleted and the suspension. A lot of blood sweat and tears went into my infiltrator...
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:05 PM by Riac
i still dont know what a mouse recorder is
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:06 PM by keen
he botted with his necro and got banned for it, as it is also clearly written in the rules.
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:13 PM by Riac
why use that for heal? why not just keybind it?
idk why youd use that unless you were trying to lvl unattended
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:17 PM by Mcnasty
Hit heal/damage shield...rinse and repeat. Just farming XP Tokens.
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:20 PM by Riac
Mcnasty wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:17 PM
Hit heal/damage shield...rinse and repeat. Just farming XP Tokens.

still not understanding why you just wouldnt key bind it. either way, hope you come back.
-lilbusta
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:31 PM by ColdHands
Because, i assume, he was AFK farming. I'm sure it was just on a timer (delay macros are against rules) so he could come back to an inventory full of xp items to sell.
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:34 PM by Mcnasty
ColdHands wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:31 PM
Because, i assume, he was AFK farming. I'm sure it was just on a timer (delay macros are against rules) so he could come back to an inventory full of xp items to sell.

Yep. Been doing that for the past 3 days, just found out about it. Thought it might be against the rules but didn't bother checking. Never expected the offense to be this severe.
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:37 PM by ColdHands
I totally agree its pretty severe.
You can even be punished if you go afk with pet on defensive. Kind of silly imo, but still much better than that other classic server, where if you told people not to add you they considered it harassment and banned you.
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:41 PM by Hypno
Harsh, i've seen plenty of animists around with bugged main pet on friendly to enemies afk farming that way yet i never see them getting banned
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:50 PM by dbeattie71
ColdHands wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:31 PM
Because, i assume, he was AFK farming. I'm sure it was just on a timer (delay macros are against rules) so he could come back to an inventory full of xp items to sell.

This.
Wed 29 Apr 2020 10:25 PM by Sepplord
Mcnasty wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:34 PM
ColdHands wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:31 PM
Yep. Been doing that for the past 3 days, just found out about it. Thought it might be against the rules but didn't bother checking. Never expected the offense to be this severe.

It already voggles my mind how so mamy people play on this server without even bothering to read the rules and get banned for multiaccounting because they assumed it would be allowed...

You even assumed it might be against the rules, yet didn't even care enough to read them at that point??? What the actual fuck dude
Wed 29 Apr 2020 10:30 PM by daytonchambers
Hypno wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:41 PM
Harsh, i've seen plenty of animists around with bugged main pet on friendly to enemies afk farming that way yet i never see them getting banned


Clockwork tapped me on the shoulder when I was ani farming just to make sure I was at the keyboard, so the DO check for this as well.
Wed 29 Apr 2020 10:56 PM by Mcnasty
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 10:25 PM
Mcnasty wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:34 PM
ColdHands wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:31 PM
Yep. Been doing that for the past 3 days, just found out about it. Thought it might be against the rules but didn't bother checking. Never expected the offense to be this severe.

It already voggles my mind how so mamy people play on this server without even bothering to read the rules and get banned for multiaccounting because they assumed it would be allowed...

You even assumed it might be against the rules, yet didn't even care enough to read them at that point??? What the actual fuck dude

Mistakes are made sometimes . That being said, deletion of all characters is pretty harsh!
Wed 29 Apr 2020 11:28 PM by gotwqqd
Mcnasty wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 10:56 PM
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 10:25 PM
Mcnasty wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:34 PM
It already voggles my mind how so mamy people play on this server without even bothering to read the rules and get banned for multiaccounting because they assumed it would be allowed...

You even assumed it might be against the rules, yet didn't even care enough to read them at that point??? What the actual fuck dude

Mistakes are made sometimes . That being said, deletion of all characters is pretty harsh!
Yup
It’s quite disproportionate compared to other violations and their punishment
Thu 30 Apr 2020 12:13 AM by Kimahri
Moment of silence for Mcnasty...
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RIP! We lost one of the few infiltrators worth a damn today, my only hope is to see you back out in the field eventually!
Thu 30 Apr 2020 1:39 AM by dbeattie71
Hypno wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:41 PM
Harsh, i've seen plenty of animists around with bugged main pet on friendly to enemies afk farming that way yet i never see them getting banned
Appeal them and they will if they’re afk.
Thu 30 Apr 2020 1:41 AM by dbeattie71
One time I was sneaking around Alb OF and saw a grey reaver. It looked like they were macroing. I appealed and watched how they test. Pretty cool.
Thu 30 Apr 2020 4:17 AM by gotwqqd
dbeattie71 wrote:
Thu 30 Apr 2020 1:39 AM
Hypno wrote:
Wed 29 Apr 2020 5:41 PM
Harsh, i've seen plenty of animists around with bugged main pet on friendly to enemies afk farming that way yet i never see them getting banned
Appeal them and they will if they’re afk.

You can let pets do ALL the work and it’s okay

If you are at the keyboard and can respond to a dev
Thu 30 Apr 2020 4:22 AM by Mcnasty
Kimahri wrote:
Thu 30 Apr 2020 12:13 AM
Moment of silence for Mcnasty...
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RIP! We lost one of the few infiltrators worth a damn today, my only hope is to see you back out in the field eventually!

You will in the future. But what should I make next...not another infil >.<
Thu 30 Apr 2020 4:23 AM by gotwqqd
Mcnasty wrote:
Thu 30 Apr 2020 4:22 AM
Kimahri wrote:
Thu 30 Apr 2020 12:13 AM
Moment of silence for Mcnasty...
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...
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RIP! We lost one of the few infiltrators worth a damn today, my only hope is to see you back out in the field eventually!

You will in the future. But what should I make next...not another infil >.<

I’d say if a caster wizard
If melee reaver
Or you can leave alb
Thu 30 Apr 2020 5:23 AM by daoklover
So sorry to hear this Mcnasty. There is already a drought of NA infiltrators and an even greater drought of good ones.

The punishment definitely doesn't fit the crime.
Thu 30 Apr 2020 5:31 AM by The Skies Asunder
Shame to get such a harsh punishment on a first offense. Best of luck getting back into it.
Thu 30 Apr 2020 6:18 AM by Sepplord
to everyone saying the penalty is too harsh...he was botting
that's one of the worst offenses to do in an mmo, short of speedhacking or radaring in RvR

there is no way to check how much of the chars were levelled with botting
there is no way to check how much money/items/etc. were farmed with botting

Botting is a huge problem and has destroyed plenty of MMOs, just because you know the person affected doesn't mean the punishment is now too harsh. He is still allowed to play on phoenix...i know no MMO which wouldn't permaban when you are caught botting.
You should be surprised that a person you (apparently) know as fine and nice dude, would go that low and cheat by using a bot. And not excuse it because you are sad he has to relevel. DoubleStandards
Thu 30 Apr 2020 6:48 AM by Noashakra
Yeah I don't get why people are telling it's too harsh.
Did they tell that to all the people getting their toon deleted and banned for 2nd offense?
There is a whole ban section you can check, you don't even need to read the ToS...
Thu 30 Apr 2020 9:24 AM by gotwqqd
Sepplord wrote:
Thu 30 Apr 2020 6:18 AM
to everyone saying the penalty is too harsh...he was botting
that's one of the worst offenses to do in an mmo, short of speedhacking or radaring in RvR

there is no way to check how much of the chars were levelled with botting
there is no way to check how much money/items/etc. were farmed with botting

Botting is a huge problem and has destroyed plenty of MMOs, just because you know the person affected doesn't mean the punishment is now too harsh. He is still allowed to play on phoenix...i know no MMO which wouldn't permaban when you are caught botting.
You should be surprised that a person you (apparently) know as fine and nice dude, would go that low and cheat by using a bot. And not excuse it because you are sad he has to relevel. DoubleStandards
And what are the penalties for speed hacking ?
Radar? Multi boxing ?
My situation which fell under the same rule as mcnasty was 30 50’s getting deleted for keeping logged in inside a keep
Thu 30 Apr 2020 9:29 AM by Cadebrennus
gotwqqd wrote:
Thu 30 Apr 2020 9:24 AM
Sepplord wrote:
Thu 30 Apr 2020 6:18 AM
to everyone saying the penalty is too harsh...he was botting
that's one of the worst offenses to do in an mmo, short of speedhacking or radaring in RvR

there is no way to check how much of the chars were levelled with botting
there is no way to check how much money/items/etc. were farmed with botting

Botting is a huge problem and has destroyed plenty of MMOs, just because you know the person affected doesn't mean the punishment is now too harsh. He is still allowed to play on phoenix...i know no MMO which wouldn't permaban when you are caught botting.
You should be surprised that a person you (apparently) know as fine and nice dude, would go that low and cheat by using a bot. And not excuse it because you are sad he has to relevel. DoubleStandards
And what are the penalties for speed hacking ?
Radar? Multi boxing ?
My situation which fell under the same rule as mcnasty was 30 50’s getting deleted for keeping logged in inside a keep

Good question. Why are other, worse offenses dealt less harsh penalties?
Thu 30 Apr 2020 9:44 AM by Ele
gotwqqd wrote:
Thu 30 Apr 2020 9:24 AM
[...]
And what are the penalties for speed hacking ?
Radar? Multi boxing ?
Speed Hacking results in a perma ban.
Usage of Radar tools results in a perma ban.
Multi boxing results in a perma ban for the "bot" account and a 3/7 days/perma ban for the "main" account.
Edit: tpyo.
Thu 30 Apr 2020 9:48 AM by Uthred
Is anybody ever reading our rules? Or is it just a box that you have to click when creating an account?

4. Client Modifications
You may not modify any part of the Dark Age of Camelot client. This includes but is not limited to:
Any hardware or third-party software, altering movement speed of your character, revealing positions of enemy players (as Radar), Jump-Hacks, Client mods that change weather pattern, fog, terrain, or object positions.


If you get caught using any of these, you will get a perma ban. So tell me, where is this less "harsh" than a 14 days ban & deletion of all toons?

It is really disappointing to see how many of you think that botting "isnt a crime". It is besides the above stated 3rd party tools and gold selling, the worst thing which can happen to this server and to those players, that are trying to get the xp items or level up their toons in the intended way. Never asked yourself why some players have so much money and are able to pay way much higher prices? Im not saying that all are using scripts but some do.
Or where does all the money from a plat seller come from? Def not by playing inside the rules.
People that are using any kind of script, programm or the dog who is pressing the same key always after the same amount of time (no joke, heard that excuse more than once) are really harming the server and its community. Therefor the punishment isnt too harsh at all.

Besides that, it is in the rules (yes, read them, it is cool), what your punishment will be if getting caught using a script or similiar.
5. Macroing
It is allowed to bind multiple actions to a key, however, delays, repeats, and conditions are strictly forbidden as well as any other means that allow unattended game-play

1st offense: Deletion of all characters and 2-weeks ban
2nd offense: permaban of Player


And last but not least, talking about rules:

12.1 Banned accounts have zero rights.

12.2 Public discussions about already enforced punishments are strictly forbidden in game, on forums and on discord.


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