Eldritch RA’s@3L5? - Phoenix Freeshard

What would a good setup for RA’s be at this early point?

Wed 19 Feb 2020 8:49 AM by Crofax

You always need
LW 1
Tireless 1
Mastery of Art 5
Serentity 2
MCL 1
Purge 2

The rest is player preferred

Wed 19 Feb 2020 8:56 AM by Sepplord

i wouldn't get MCL that early...in general it is nice to have but not mandatory

you can use manapotions every minute and legion-manacharge every 2minutes

Wed 19 Feb 2020 9:33 AM by bigne88

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Wed 19 Feb 2020 4:08 AM
What would a good setup for RA’s be at this early point?

Serenity you wont need, cause you will be all the time in combat.
Mcl you wont need for the same reason and chunk of legion and power pots is all you need to be good on mana.

The RA wich is mandatory for eldritch is ichor, to CC enemies and reset root immunity.

So a good start is
LW, tireless, purge 2, ichor 1, mo art 5, aug dex 3.
Your aim is getting moc 5 and in between, before respecching, rise your damage passives (crit, acuity, damage), ichor and purge.

Ofc thous is the path for a split spec or light eld for 8v8 and small men. If you stick with the zerg, do wathever you prefer, nothing matter

Tldr; at 5l9 respec to lw, tireless, mof2, purge 2, ichor 1, moc 5. Than put points back to moart 5, aug dex3, ichor 2, WP, aug acuity etc.

Wed 19 Feb 2020 10:36 AM by Freedomcall

I would put MoF2 at least if you are split spec.

Wed 19 Feb 2020 11:01 AM by bigne88

Freedomcall wrote: ↑
Wed 19 Feb 2020 10:36 AM
I would put MoF2 at least if you are split spec.

Yea good call, completly forgot.

Wed 19 Feb 2020 12:26 PM by gotwqqd

I have MoF 2, LW, Serenity, tireless, purge 2, ichor 1, wild power 2

So should I change the willpower to what?

Wed 19 Feb 2020 12:51 PM by bigne88

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Wed 19 Feb 2020 12:26 PM
I have MoF 2, LW, Serenity, tireless, purge 2, ichor 1, wild power 2

So should I change the willpower to what?

Naa its ok. Dont buy a respecstone now for just 2-3 points.
The only offset ra you got, for me, is serenity. But again is just 1 point and for sure it wont hurt you.
Save feathers for tasty chunk of legion instead, than you will be gucci.
For next ras, invest them in moart 5 and aug dex 3.

I hope you are a lurikeen

Wed 19 Feb 2020 1:26 PM by Crofax

as you can see the preferences are always slightly different =)

Wed 19 Feb 2020 2:36 PM by Tritri

Depends on what type of gameplay ou do and what your spec is

Fri 21 Feb 2020 1:25 PM by idknemore

Tireless 1
Long Wind 1
MCL 2
Purge 2
Focus 1-2
Keep MoArt/Aug Dex at the same level.

Any other advice is simply incorrect.

Fri 21 Feb 2020 2:09 PM by Tritri

idknemore wrote: ↑
Fri 21 Feb 2020 1:25 PM
Keep MoArt/Aug Dex at the same level.

Ho yeah, that's absolutely right

Don't go full MoA, it's not as efficient as splitting between aug dex and moa

Fri 21 Feb 2020 2:22 PM by bigne88

idknemore wrote: ↑
Fri 21 Feb 2020 1:25 PM
Tireless 1
Long Wind 1
MCL 2
Purge 2
Focus 1-2
Keep MoArt/Aug Dex at the same level.

Any other advice is simply incorrect.

Right. Mcl 2 and no ichor. Smart advice.
So with pots and chunk why would you put mandatory a mana regen ra that you cant even use in combat?

Fri 21 Feb 2020 3:57 PM by idknemore

bigne88 wrote: ↑
Fri 21 Feb 2020 2:22 PM
idknemore wrote: ↑
Fri 21 Feb 2020 1:25 PM
Tireless 1
Long Wind 1
MCL 2
Purge 2
Focus 1-2
Keep MoArt/Aug Dex at the same level.

Any other advice is simply incorrect.

Right. Mcl 2 and no ichor. Smart advice.
So with pots and chunk why would you put mandatory a mana regen ra that you cant even use in combat?

tbh, I completely forgot about Ichor

but MCL 2 is definitely a must if you're not just zerging

Fri 21 Feb 2020 4:17 PM by Azuell

idknemore wrote: ↑
Fri 21 Feb 2020 3:57 PM
bigne88 wrote: ↑
Fri 21 Feb 2020 2:22 PM
idknemore wrote: ↑
Fri 21 Feb 2020 1:25 PM
Tireless 1
Long Wind 1
MCL 2
Purge 2
Focus 1-2
Keep MoArt/Aug Dex at the same level.

Any other advice is simply incorrect.

Right. Mcl 2 and no ichor. Smart advice.
So with pots and chunk why would you put mandatory a mana regen ra that you cant even use in combat?

tbh, I completely forgot about Ichor

but MCL 2 is definitely a must if you're not just zerging

Completely disagree. Unless eld mana consumption is way higher than my sorc, I haven't run MCL since I hit 50 and with power pots and legion I have never run out of power mid fight. Seems like a waste of points, especially for something that can't even be used in combat.

I only run in 2-3 man though, it could be different for 8v8.

Fri 21 Feb 2020 4:42 PM by bigne88

I run 8men 90% of the time. Split spec, the one you should play, especially at the beginning, is ok with mana even since the hp buff. Just use wisely your pots and legion.

Ofc if you meet twice in a row, 2 alb groups (who tend to last longer than vs mids) and you didnt have time to recover and you have eveything in cd, yea, you might run out of mana.

Maybe light eld might be different yea. In that scenario you gotta downgrade your nearsight, for interrupt sake (use grey).

For zer mcl might be handy cause you will spam shit all the time, but who cares about min maxing for zerging anyway?

Sat 22 Feb 2020 2:35 AM by Frigzy

Fundamentals:
Tireless 1
Long Wind 1
Serenity 1
MCL 1
Purge 2

Basics:
Mastery of the Art 2+ (+)
Augmented Dexterity 2+ (+)
Ichor 1

Preference/Luxury:
Wild Power
Mastery of Magery
Mastery of Focus 2
Mastery of Concentration
Concentration
Augmented Acuity
Purge 3
Ichor 3
Physical Defense

Legion Power Charge item and pot management is crucual. However, MCL 1 is just too good to pass up for the points. If you have long drawn out fights or incs in quick succession, your pots and charges will be on cooldown and MCL will give you just the amount necessary to live up to the next cycle without being rendered useless due to being oom.

Also, after getting rezzed you can use MCL, which at that point can save your life by allowing you to cast selfbuffs and get a few utlity casts out.

I personally run Purge 2 Ichor 3 Concentration 1 for Actives and rest Passives with MotA 7, AugDex 5, MoF2 and rest Dmg RAs. I spec high Ichor because I rely on it often in solo/smallman situations.

I consider MCL 2 or Serenity 2 to be a waste of points.

At 3L5 you can get all basic RAs.

Sun 23 Feb 2020 6:11 PM by Horus

For what is is worth, here is my void eld bg load out... I've pretty much had this basic setup since earlier rr, just adding levels. 5L3 It has served me well in getting zerg v zerg RPs.

LW
Seren 1
Tireless
Purge 1
Ichor 3
Master of Magery 4
Master of Art 4
aug dex 2
aug acuity 2
Wild power 2

For me power seems to rarely be an issue so I sacrificed MCL. Someone told me mastery of the art had a bigger effect on casting speed than dex here on phoenix. I can't confirm...so supposedly the old formula of optimal dex/moa combo don't apply here?

Thu 27 Feb 2020 1:07 PM by atomico

MCL 2? L O L
You have potion, you have legion.. if you need still mana you are doing something bad.

Thu 27 Feb 2020 1:39 PM by Sepplord

atomico wrote: ↑
Thu 27 Feb 2020 1:07 PM
MCL 2? L O L
You have potion, you have legion.. if you need still mana you are doing something bad.

or really well, so he is constantly nuking and killing enemies

but yeah....i agree that mcl2 is overkill, even at high RR i would get MAX mcl1 and despite thinking i need mcl1 after trying it out you can manage really well without it. Most important thing is to just drink manapots when you can, not when you are already in need of more mana.

Fri 28 Feb 2020 12:08 AM by Frigzy

When I have back-to-back fights MCL 1 is a lifesaver. When other casters get oom because we just killed 20 enemies I usually still have a relatively decent amount of power because of MCL. It buffers the cooldown period on the charge and pots quite nicely.