Keeping People Interested During Beta

Started 24 Aug 2018
by Rook
in Tavern
From my observations it seems that the release of instant 40 without a 40-44 BG was probably a mistake if the intention was to keep people playing and leveling. Not many are going to want to put any effort into leveling 40-50 when we know instant 50 is coming. If the 40-44 BG was open at least people would grind those levels. Then you have the natural progression to instant 50 and you have an entire server of people who have been pvping together since the 30s. That could make some interesting 50 pvp.

As it stands now it seems a lot of people have just stopped logging in. Open pvp doesn't seem to be recovering. Having the 40-44 BG would probably keep more people in-game and reporting bugs than not having it.

I know some will say this is just a beta and that those people who stopped logging in will come back for live but I think we're missing a giant opportunity if we don't try to keep the hype and excitement of pvp going, that's what this game is for after all. Maybe I'm totally off point and out of touch but I think many others probably have the same feeling.
Fri 24 Aug 2018 2:55 PM by Niix
Rook wrote:
Fri 24 Aug 2018 2:50 PM
From my observations it seems that the release of instant 40 without a 40-44 BG was probably a mistake if the intention was to keep people playing and leveling. Not many are going to want to put any effort into leveling 40-50 when we know instant 50 is coming. If the 40-44 BG was open at least people would grind those levels. Then you have the natural progression to instant 50 and you have an entire server of people who have been pvping together since the 30s. That could make some interesting 50 pvp.

As it stands now it seems a lot of people have just stopped logging in. Open pvp doesn't seem to be recovering. Having the 40-44 BG would probably keep more people in-game and reporting bugs than not having it.

I know some will say this is just a beta and that those people who stopped logging in will come back for live but I think we're missing a giant opportunity if we don't try to keep the hype and excitement of pvp going, that's what this game is for after all. Maybe I'm totally off point and out of touch but I think many others probably have the same feeling.

This is getting old and exhausting...

THIS IS A BETA guys, holy smokes.

There will be no 40-44 BG on release and probably ever (Honestly having 3 BG's is too much, once server settles you want to focus the BG population to the same place imo) I would be okay with just Thid/Cale.

If people are not logging in anymore, it means they aren't actually testing anything for the benefit of the server and just looking for daoc BG fights (not useful for Beta tbh). If the excitement dwindles then that's on those people, i am sure they'll come back for live when the population doubles.
Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:08 PM by Shadanwolf
I think it is KEY to make it clear that for the foreseeable future 2 bgs is ALL ( the bg's) there will be.
Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:51 PM by Padatoo
I agree with the OP >>> i40 has done bad work for online count,and for example,I dont have much time to play and xpíng from 40 to 50 seems pointless since the i50 is coming soon enouph.
Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:54 PM by heardstheword
i50 isn't expected until late September. https://playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1821

The transition from i30 -> i40 was faster than I anticipated for sure. People may have the idea that i50 is next week, but it is not.
Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:54 PM by Niix
Padatoo wrote:
Fri 24 Aug 2018 3:51 PM
I agree with the OP >>> i40 has done bad work for online count,and for example,I dont have much time to play and xpíng from 40 to 50 seems pointless since the i50 is coming soon enouph.

So don't play until i50? This is a beta dude, they need and want to test 40-50 content.... if you don't want to help out with that then play solitaire until end of sept.

Took me 1 night to go from 41-47, its not like its hard.
Fri 24 Aug 2018 5:55 PM by Warjon
I think it was good timing. People were already using pots and crafting gear for cale so at 34 they could farm 30s. There were zerg keep takes... Time to move on to other areas and see how they run.
Fri 31 Aug 2018 2:33 AM by SPNCatlee
It took me a week with slightly higher than casual play to go from 40-50. I had fun doing it and had zero problems finding groups. I mean this *is* beta. There isn't going to be a 40-44 bg in live so why would we have one in beta? And i50 is not going to be for awhile they so...
While i40 was a little faster than expected I don't think they have made a wrong decision here. I actually think most of the decisions the devs have made for this server have been very positive!
Fri 31 Aug 2018 5:31 AM by poisonclover
i30 to i40 was insanely quick. Population shot up insanely for that, and disappeared a week later just as fast.

I shouldn't be forced to PVE to gain levels, my job doesn't allow me the luxury of being online for 8 hours a day like some of you. We should have options is my point, BGs are just an option. And im not talking about now, or beta im talking about live. Maybe people only have a couple hours a week and want to just stay in the BG to have the experience because they know they will never hit RR5+ or make enough friends to not spend hours looking for something to do.. The only people crying about Bgs are people who want to slaughter people in emain. The same people complaining about the new keep tasks are the same people who don't want a BG population.

New keep Tasks are amazing. Ive seen a lot of positive in /advice and a few mad elitists crying that people are PVE'ing keeps. but its a nice touch, I hope they make live.

quite simply put, More Options = More population.
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