is there any chance that every other alb in the frontiers could NOT be a minstrel?
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Started 9 Feb 2020
by
oldmanukko
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Wed 19 Feb 2020 5:41 AM
by
Ashlityr
As much as I'm frustrated by it as well, theres absolutely no reason not to play them. They perform extremely well in nearly all situations and have countless options that ensure safety. Worst case scenario most of the time, a mini just has to run. I'm loving Phoenix, but minis are absolutely insane when played even a bit above average and need to be looked at by the devs because this sentiment is shared by nearly everyone that doesn't have a mini and plenty of people that do play minis. When compared to the other realm's speed options, they're so far beyond the hib and mid options. It's really a shame.
Wed 19 Feb 2020 7:09 AM
by
Pao
AHK makes mincer play too easy. Every retard can hold the pet and manage the class. What was before rewarding and skilful is now just cheesy. I have a mincer too and I don't play him because of this reason. It feels not rewarding to win every 1vs1 if you kite. The random button pressing feel off too. Nerf mincer or ban AHK user.
Wed 19 Feb 2020 9:35 AM
by
Forlornhope
Careful guys, Teiloh will be in here shortly to tell you how gimp and difficult playing a minstrel is.
Wed 19 Feb 2020 9:40 AM
by
bigne88
Worst thing of good mincers is that, if they are competent, they can bring with them a couple of pets together.
Even worst is when you inc them next to a mob spot. You can kill their pet once, but he will keep charming new one
Even worst is when you inc them next to a mob spot. You can kill their pet once, but he will keep charming new one
Wed 19 Feb 2020 12:50 PM
by
Lerox
Pao wrote: ↑Wed 19 Feb 2020 7:09 AMAHK makes mincer play too easy. Every retard can hold the pet and manage the class. What was before rewarding and skilful is now just cheesy. I have a mincer too and I don't play him because of this reason. It feels not rewarding to win every 1vs1 if you kite. The random button pressing feel off too. Nerf mincer or ban AHK user.
How about play "fair" as a minstrel and stop kiting?
Minstrel is the strongest 1v1 class so every average guy wont beat it and that is not the minstrels fault.
I had a lot of 1v1s and if people just don't use their own mechanic you wont perform any good.
Speaking for myself if I play against some 2-hand class I time my abla before they hit and my abla reapplies after 6 seconds. So at least every second hit they hit in my abla, if I haste debuffed them they will hit in it every time for 4 hits.
Classes who can use a shield could switch to shield between their 2-hand swings but most of them don't do that.
I don't run 1v1 a lot because a lot of people don't want to fight me anyway and I can understand that but if they fight I give them a minstrel fairfight mostly; everything else is just boring in my opinion.
Regarding to AHK I would say it 1v1 it doesnt change much. I have 2 seperate buttons to target my pet and to charm it, people make it on one button so not really a huge difference. Holding a pet without AHK is the easiest thing. I would say clicking every pala chant mid in fight has to be more anoying.
But hey I am a minstrel player so I am just here to protect my class.
Wed 19 Feb 2020 5:03 PM
by
Horus
There was a time when my ranger was pretty effective at hunting minstrels...at least mediocre ones. Good, higher RR ones are unkillable 1 on 1.
If I caught one a little distracted with their gank or twisting attempt..
Select pierce arrow for dmg vs. armor type
Crit shot
Rapid fire a few more shots
Decent chance at getting a kill.
Now with the custom changes to armor vulnerability, HP, self heal options, self buff options the natural predator of the minst...a high bow Ranger, has zero chance unless they are AFK.
If I caught one a little distracted with their gank or twisting attempt..
Select pierce arrow for dmg vs. armor type
Crit shot
Rapid fire a few more shots
Decent chance at getting a kill.
Now with the custom changes to armor vulnerability, HP, self heal options, self buff options the natural predator of the minst...a high bow Ranger, has zero chance unless they are AFK.
Wed 19 Feb 2020 8:27 PM
by
borodino1812
I think it is pretty much accepted by now, that the minstrel will need to be adjusted.
The class was never designed with AHK or newer keyboards in mind. They have in essence made the class overpowered.
How the devs will adjust the class remain to be seen though.
The class was never designed with AHK or newer keyboards in mind. They have in essence made the class overpowered.
How the devs will adjust the class remain to be seen though.
Wed 19 Feb 2020 8:55 PM
by
Riac
Horus wrote: ↑Wed 19 Feb 2020 5:03 PMThere was a time when my ranger was pretty effective at hunting minstrels...at least mediocre ones. Good, higher RR ones are unkillable 1 on 1.
If I caught one a little distracted with their gank or twisting attempt..
Select pierce arrow for dmg vs. armor type
Crit shot
Rapid fire a few more shots
Decent chance at getting a kill.
Now with the custom changes to armor vulnerability, HP, self heal options, self buff options the natural predator of the minst...a high bow Ranger, has zero chance unless they are AFK.
soooo pretty much the same strat vs anyone that doesnt have engage? this is exactly why archers are lame af.
Wed 19 Feb 2020 10:17 PM
by
Forlornhope
Riac wrote: ↑Wed 19 Feb 2020 8:55 PMHorus wrote: ↑Wed 19 Feb 2020 5:03 PMThere was a time when my ranger was pretty effective at hunting minstrels...at least mediocre ones. Good, higher RR ones are unkillable 1 on 1.
If I caught one a little distracted with their gank or twisting attempt..
Select pierce arrow for dmg vs. armor type
Crit shot
Rapid fire a few more shots
Decent chance at getting a kill.
Now with the custom changes to armor vulnerability, HP, self heal options, self buff options the natural predator of the minst...a high bow Ranger, has zero chance unless they are AFK.
soooo pretty much the same strat vs anyone that doesnt have engage? this is exactly why archers are lame af.
We get it, you don't like archers. How about actually adding something constructive to a conversation. One could say that a lot of classes here have basically one strategy archers aren't different.
Thu 20 Feb 2020 12:17 AM
by
Riac
Forlornhope wrote: ↑Wed 19 Feb 2020 10:17 PMRiac wrote: ↑Wed 19 Feb 2020 8:55 PMHorus wrote: ↑Wed 19 Feb 2020 5:03 PMThere was a time when my ranger was pretty effective at hunting minstrels...at least mediocre ones. Good, higher RR ones are unkillable 1 on 1.
If I caught one a little distracted with their gank or twisting attempt..
Select pierce arrow for dmg vs. armor type
Crit shot
Rapid fire a few more shots
Decent chance at getting a kill.
Now with the custom changes to armor vulnerability, HP, self heal options, self buff options the natural predator of the minst...a high bow Ranger, has zero chance unless they are AFK.
soooo pretty much the same strat vs anyone that doesnt have engage? this is exactly why archers are lame af.
We get it, you don't like archers. How about actually adding something constructive to a conversation. One could say that a lot of classes here have basically one strategy archers aren't different.
its a retort to a ridiculous claim. as if archers were the sole check on ministrels lol.
its even more absurd when you factor in the common complaint (that predates the hp buff) that ppl could just run out of the archers range before they die. well, minis are one of the best classes in the game at running away. that alone would indicate the archer vs mini matchup was never a good one, regardless of all the whines he added to the end of his post.
Sat 22 Feb 2020 2:54 AM
by
lolhisup
Ban AHK works for me I don't need a program to play on my behalf.
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