Hey so I´ve mostly played hib on phoenix and I prefer the 8vs8 style.
When phoenix launched midgard was actually insanely powerful due to how strong the bd was during the first months and some other factors. A hybrid push setup with 2 bds was most likely the strongest 8vs8 setup that any realm could have at the time.
However, I feel that after midgard has gotten various nerfs and with savages no longer being able to insta quad someone down after hp boost and so on, I feel like midgard possibly might be in a bad spot right now.
I think its very common that people complain about really strong mid classes but they never consider the main issue, midgard has to carry the burden of both shaman and skald. I guess you can argue however that the skald is fine on phoenix and even if it wasnt they could in theory just run without skald speed. With that being said, noone in their right fking mind would choose a skald over a minstrel in their group.
I know there are many people in the DAoC community who will say stuff like "A good shaman can win a whole fight.", however that says more about the interupt mechanic in DAoC than shaman as a class. The characters only job is to diseas, root stuff that doesnt have det and well yeah... cure diseas. When it gets rupted in hybrid / tank heavy fights it goes in to the support line to use its only unique function, the ferocious insta pbaoe diseas. Then it melee interupts for a while, then gets CCd off in a weird spot. And if it dies from being in a weird spot? Well there goes all their buffs.
A lot of people say "Well yeah but the healer is so strong." and yes as someone who played pac healer for almost 200 days played in my life time on other servers, I can agree that a pac healer can carry a whole team, its by far the best class to join a region random group with and dominate other region random groups if you are a skilled player. With that being said, it´s perhaps one of the easiest characters in the game to lock down on a NON random pug level. The only fights where I really feel that the pacs are being a pain in the ass are the fights where they use up all their insta CCs during the fight and/or MOC.
A frontline interupter without strong instas or a pet just isnt that strong, there is a reason why bard is always chosen over pac healer as frontliner in arena type DAoC formats on mixed realm servers.
EDIT: I wrote this shortly after returning to phoenix after a long break. As it turned out, the hybrid mid setup is perhaps still the strongest 8vs8.
When phoenix launched midgard was actually insanely powerful due to how strong the bd was during the first months and some other factors. A hybrid push setup with 2 bds was most likely the strongest 8vs8 setup that any realm could have at the time.
However, I feel that after midgard has gotten various nerfs and with savages no longer being able to insta quad someone down after hp boost and so on, I feel like midgard possibly might be in a bad spot right now.
I think its very common that people complain about really strong mid classes but they never consider the main issue, midgard has to carry the burden of both shaman and skald. I guess you can argue however that the skald is fine on phoenix and even if it wasnt they could in theory just run without skald speed. With that being said, noone in their right fking mind would choose a skald over a minstrel in their group.
I know there are many people in the DAoC community who will say stuff like "A good shaman can win a whole fight.", however that says more about the interupt mechanic in DAoC than shaman as a class. The characters only job is to diseas, root stuff that doesnt have det and well yeah... cure diseas. When it gets rupted in hybrid / tank heavy fights it goes in to the support line to use its only unique function, the ferocious insta pbaoe diseas. Then it melee interupts for a while, then gets CCd off in a weird spot. And if it dies from being in a weird spot? Well there goes all their buffs.
A lot of people say "Well yeah but the healer is so strong." and yes as someone who played pac healer for almost 200 days played in my life time on other servers, I can agree that a pac healer can carry a whole team, its by far the best class to join a region random group with and dominate other region random groups if you are a skilled player. With that being said, it´s perhaps one of the easiest characters in the game to lock down on a NON random pug level. The only fights where I really feel that the pacs are being a pain in the ass are the fights where they use up all their insta CCs during the fight and/or MOC.
A frontline interupter without strong instas or a pet just isnt that strong, there is a reason why bard is always chosen over pac healer as frontliner in arena type DAoC formats on mixed realm servers.
EDIT: I wrote this shortly after returning to phoenix after a long break. As it turned out, the hybrid mid setup is perhaps still the strongest 8vs8.
