Should Minstrels be able to charm Shredders in DF?

Asking for a friend.

Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:02 AM by Forlornhope

Should they be able to run around with purple pets? No, they're the cheesiest class in this game. Can they? Yes, unfortunately.

Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:02 AM by teiloh

Forlornhope wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:02 AM
Should they be able to run around with purple pets? No, they're the cheesiest class in this game. Can they? Yes, unfortunately.

Minstrels actually take skill, no cheese involved.

Tue 10 Dec 2019 8:39 AM by keen

teiloh wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:02 AM
Forlornhope wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:02 AM
Should they be able to run around with purple pets? No, they're the cheesiest class in this game. Can they? Yes, unfortunately.

Minstrels actually take skill, no cheese involved.

Good one

Tue 10 Dec 2019 10:07 AM by inoeth

teiloh wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:02 AM
Forlornhope wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:02 AM
Should they be able to run around with purple pets? No, they're the cheesiest class in this game. Can they? Yes, unfortunately.

Minstrels actually take skill, no cheese involved.

maybe in 2002, but today you can makro everything. pretty much cheese involved

Tue 10 Dec 2019 3:14 PM by Kampfar

inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 10:07 AM
teiloh wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:02 AM
Forlornhope wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:02 AM
Should they be able to run around with purple pets? No, they're the cheesiest class in this game. Can they? Yes, unfortunately.

Minstrels actually take skill, no cheese involved.

maybe in 2002, but today you can makro everything. pretty much cheese involved

Cheesemacroroni nomnomnom

Fri 13 Dec 2019 4:52 AM by teiloh

inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 10:07 AM
teiloh wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:02 AM
Forlornhope wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:02 AM
Should they be able to run around with purple pets? No, they're the cheesiest class in this game. Can they? Yes, unfortunately.

Minstrels actually take skill, no cheese involved.

maybe in 2002, but today you can makro everything. pretty much cheese involved

You can't manage charm/recharm in the middle of combat. Pet Minstrel takes more skill than any class in this game, period.

Mon 16 Dec 2019 5:01 PM by omicidi

teiloh wrote: ↑
Fri 13 Dec 2019 4:52 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 10:07 AM
teiloh wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:02 AM
Minstrels actually take skill, no cheese involved.

maybe in 2002, but today you can makro everything. pretty much cheese involved

You can't manage charm/recharm in the middle of combat. Pet Minstrel takes more skill than any class in this game, period.

I’d agree with you before macros. Now it’s pretyy easy.

Wed 18 Dec 2019 4:28 AM by teiloh

omicidi wrote: ↑
Mon 16 Dec 2019 5:01 PM
teiloh wrote: ↑
Fri 13 Dec 2019 4:52 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 10:07 AM
maybe in 2002, but today you can makro everything. pretty much cheese involved

You can't manage charm/recharm in the middle of combat. Pet Minstrel takes more skill than any class in this game, period.

I’d agree with you before macros. Now it’s pretyy easy.

Macros isn't the issue, macros will help with twisting out of combat and nothing else.

Wed 18 Dec 2019 4:47 PM by gromet12

teiloh wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:02 AM
Forlornhope wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:02 AM
Should they be able to run around with purple pets? No, they're the cheesiest class in this game. Can they? Yes, unfortunately.

Minstrels actually take skill, no cheese involved.

With macroing commands to a single button they are just pushing a single button or run a repeater button which takes no skill what so ever.

Fri 20 Dec 2019 10:21 PM by teiloh

gromet12 wrote: ↑
Wed 18 Dec 2019 4:47 PM
teiloh wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 7:02 AM
Forlornhope wrote: ↑
Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:02 AM
Should they be able to run around with purple pets? No, they're the cheesiest class in this game. Can they? Yes, unfortunately.

Minstrels actually take skill, no cheese involved.

With macroing commands to a single button they are just pushing a single button or run a repeater button which takes no skill what so ever.

Sounds like you've never played a minstrel before.

Sat 21 Dec 2019 9:01 AM by Siouxsie

Minstrel pets need a MASSIVE NERF.
I'm RR9 hunter and I got beat down by a RR2 minstrel with an Ellyl Sage pet. EVen after using IP4, purge, legion and heal pots.. this jackass managed to win because the pet was either nuking me down for 110 or healing the minstrel.

This is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

Cap minstrel pet charm to lvl 50 and nerf the pet capabilities.

Sat 21 Dec 2019 6:19 PM by Nauglamir

If I read your post with a Trevor-Noah-does-Trump voice in mind, it's pretty entertaining. Other than that - if you lose vs a rr2 Minstrel+sage with your realmrank, on a hunter, more often than once, you seriously need to step up on your game. Totally doable

Sun 22 Dec 2019 3:19 PM by Siouxsie

Nauglamir wrote: ↑
Sat 21 Dec 2019 6:19 PM
If I read your post with a Trevor-Noah-does-Trump voice in mind, it's pretty entertaining. Other than that - if you lose vs a rr2 Minstrel+sage with your realmrank, on a hunter, more often than once, you seriously need to step up on your game. Totally doable

I call bullshit. They kite you to hell. YOU try that some time. Can't shoot when pet is attacking you. Plus they will just mezz or stun dog which leaves their fucking pet free to cast.

Sun 22 Dec 2019 10:00 PM by Nauglamir

If you can't figure out a way to beat a specific minstrel when you have the initative, simply don't attack, you'r a stealther, it's in your hand.

Mon 23 Dec 2019 8:21 AM by teiloh

Siouxsie wrote: ↑
Sat 21 Dec 2019 9:01 AM
Minstrel pets need a MASSIVE NERF.
I'm RR9 hunter and I got beat down by a RR2 minstrel with an Ellyl Sage pet. EVen after using IP4, purge, legion and heal pots.. this jackass managed to win because the pet was either nuking me down for 110 or healing the minstrel.

This is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

Cap minstrel pet charm to lvl 50 and nerf the pet capabilities.

lol nuking every 4s for 80-110