Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 2:37 PMIf you're comfortable with positional styles try 23 Shield and allocate the rest of the points accordingly. You can do the positionals one of two ways;
1) Positional backed up by the anytime (numb)
2) Positional backed up by another positional (eg. Side backed up by Rear and Rear backed up by Side)
Razur Ur wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 2:53 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 2:37 PMIf you're comfortable with positional styles try 23 Shield and allocate the rest of the points accordingly. You can do the positionals one of two ways;
1) Positional backed up by the anytime (numb)
2) Positional backed up by another positional (eg. Side backed up by Rear and Rear backed up by Side)
I want see that you hit with side/back stun a SB with anytimer snare ;-). Your spec is only well in group but you have low weapon skill for to hit bonus.
Have you anyone time played a Champ solo rvr if yes than say me your name from champ iam interesting :-).
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 3:05 PMNope I'm not a Champion player. I have more experience with general melee than with the grab bag of tools that a Champion has. That being said, nailing a side or rear stun isn't that hard (see Hunters, Rangers, and BMs.) That's the sort of thing you want to back up with Numb when solo. Backing up a positional with another positional is more of a group thing, however.
If you don't believe me regarding the positional stuns then you should really take a good look at the forum here and see the endless pages of whine posts about "anytime" positional stuns.
Razur Ur wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 3:15 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 3:05 PMNope I'm not a Champion player. I have more experience with general melee than with the grab bag of tools that a Champion has. That being said, nailing a side or rear stun isn't that hard (see Hunters, Rangers, and BMs.) That's the sort of thing you want to back up with Numb when solo. Backing up a positional with another positional is more of a group thing, however.
If you don't believe me regarding the positional stuns then you should really take a good look at the forum here and see the endless pages of whine posts about "anytime" positional stuns.
Mmh is me new that Hunter and Ranger got shild spec and BM have higher WS than a Champion. Do it a champ and try it on solo fights. BM have higher
Weaponskill because of mainhand specline.
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 7:41 PMDude. Rangers and NS have side stun in the Celtic Dual line and Hunters have a rear stun in the Spear line.
My point is that there are people (like you) who say it's almost impossible to execute these styles in 1v1 (not true), and there are people (whiners who face these styles) who say that they're so easy to execute in 1v1 that they may as well be anytime styles (also not true.)
The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I'm not trying to be a dick but if you're going to be a smartass when I'm trying to point out different ways of achieving something then maybe you should look into it before smashing the keys in a flurry of uninformed fury.
Razur Ur wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 9:40 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Mon 28 Oct 2019 7:41 PMDude. Rangers and NS have side stun in the Celtic Dual line and Hunters have a rear stun in the Spear line.
My point is that there are people (like you) who say it's almost impossible to execute these styles in 1v1 (not true), and there are people (whiners who face these styles) who say that they're so easy to execute in 1v1 that they may as well be anytime styles (also not true.)
The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I'm not trying to be a dick but if you're going to be a smartass when I'm trying to point out different ways of achieving something then maybe you should look into it before smashing the keys in a flurry of uninformed fury.
you cannot weapon specline compare with shild spec line which is an offhand. hunter have with weapon spec a higher WS how like only shild spec. Hope you
knowing for what Weaponskill is. I have with LW 38 a higher Weaponskill how with 42 shild and 10 Blade. Hope you know what i mean and the same is by
Hunter with spear spec or ns with dual weapon. both have higher to hit rate throught Weaponskill. thats is the reason for me to say build a champ and try it out.
If you tell us how best to play a ranger spect and I believe it right away but please do not recommend someone to be a spec without having ever played this class with your suggested spec.
Sorry for my bad english :-(
PS: Aussprache lernen
I play for over 10 years champion and have tried in the time various specs and recommend the specs where I personally have fun in RVR what group and solo concerns and there is slam simply with the most chilled vs strafer dudes.
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Tue 29 Oct 2019 6:36 AMMy first character was a Merc and I played that for a very long time as well. I was the first Saracen Thrust Merc on the server, and probably the first in the game. I was also one of the earliest of the light tanks to use a Shield, both at 42 and at a lower spec. So I do know something about tanks as well. While I am not an expert on the non-melee aspects of a Champion, I do know something about tank melee, which is why I gave my input on the Shield. Best of luck on your Champion.
Razur Ur wrote: ↑Tue 29 Oct 2019 7:59 AMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Tue 29 Oct 2019 6:36 AMMy first character was a Merc and I played that for a very long time as well. I was the first Saracen Thrust Merc on the server, and probably the first in the game. I was also one of the earliest of the light tanks to use a Shield, both at 42 and at a lower spec. So I do know something about tanks as well. While I am not an expert on the non-melee aspects of a Champion, I do know something about tank melee, which is why I gave my input on the Shield. Best of luck on your Champion.
i thought me this, that you played a merc and with merc is ok with 35 shild spec but what have you spec mainhand by merc? Throught your mainhand spec you get
higher Weaponskill! Higher Weaponskill you get higher to hit rate or lower missrate with your shild style and this is the different to the spec from a Champion.
If you want play a champ with only 35shild spec than you needed for better Weaponskill/higher to hit bonus 50spec in mainhand how blunt, pierce or blade
skill.
I hope you understand now what I want out.
MacPrior wrote: ↑Thu 5 Dec 2019 9:09 PMLater mythic developed this model and implemented the better of such version of a hybrid - a Valewalker and a Reaver. Both are much more ineteresting in this role.
watbrif wrote: ↑Fri 6 Dec 2019 10:27 PMMacPrior wrote: ↑Thu 5 Dec 2019 9:09 PMLater mythic developed this model and implemented the better of such version of a hybrid - a Valewalker and a Reaver. Both are much more ineteresting in this role.
I find the contrast to a Thane even more stark (because that's also a classic class). Instant dd, dd, aoe etc. and it doesn't even have to spec large weapons as an extra category ... I mean, come on.
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