[request] Style for spear line (hunter)

Started 18 Oct 2019
by inoeth
in Suggestions
change lunging thrust effect to attack speed reduce 21% to reduce the insane impact of d/q debuff+ASR on hunters, which is ordinary in everey stealther melee fight for hunters

this is the actual style effect in live daoc.
Wed 23 Oct 2019 9:50 PM by gotwqqd
Siouxsie wrote:
Wed 23 Oct 2019 4:55 PM
+1

I’d say it belongs @ stab with a better growth rate and the bleed should be added to the lunge
Thu 24 Oct 2019 6:59 AM by Cadebrennus
Why do you keep asking for free shit on a class that is already strong within its archetype?
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:13 AM by inoeth
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 6:59 AM
Why do you keep asking for free shit on a class that is already strong within its archetype?

because you still dont know shit about hunters
Thu 24 Oct 2019 1:42 PM by gromet12
inoeth wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:13 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 6:59 AM
Why do you keep asking for free shit on a class that is already strong within its archetype?

because you still dont know shit about hunters

He knows they are easy for his ranger, but that is a skill and not the OP'd archer within its archetype
Thu 24 Oct 2019 1:50 PM by Horus
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 6:59 AM
Why do you keep asking for free shit on a class that is already strong within its archetype?

Let them ask away. If they want to illustrate their inability to play a perfectly fine class it is on them.
Fri 25 Oct 2019 4:27 AM by Cadebrennus
gromet12 wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 1:42 PM
inoeth wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:13 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 6:59 AM
Why do you keep asking for free shit on a class that is already strong within its archetype?

because you still dont know shit about hunters

He knows they are easy for his ranger, but that is a skill and not the OP'd archer within its archetype

Bad players are easy for me regardless of my class or their class.
Fri 25 Oct 2019 6:17 AM by inoeth
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 4:27 AM
gromet12 wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 1:42 PM
inoeth wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:13 AM
because you still dont know shit about hunters

He knows they are easy for his ranger, but that is a skill and not the OP'd archer within its archetype

Bad players are easy for me regardless of my class or their class.

dude rly.... no one believes you, do you believe yourself?
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:47 AM by Cadebrennus
inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 6:17 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 4:27 AM
gromet12 wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 1:42 PM
He knows they are easy for his ranger, but that is a skill and not the OP'd archer within its archetype

Bad players are easy for me regardless of my class or their class.

dude rly.... no one believes you, do you believe yourself?

I believe in full words and sentences that start with a capital letter. Let's start there in regards to what I believe in.

If your PvP ability is anything like your typing/grammar abilities I can see why you keep asking for nerfs to everything that you face and buffs to anything that you play.
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:57 AM by inoeth
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:47 AM
inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 6:17 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 4:27 AM
Bad players are easy for me regardless of my class or their class.

dude rly.... no one believes you, do you believe yourself?

I believe in full words and sentences that start with a capital letter. Let's start there in regards to what I believe in.

If your PvP ability is anything like your typing/grammar abilities I can see why you keep asking for nerfs to everything that you face and buffs to anything that you play.

nice ad hominem dude. perfect example.
would you now leave this thread or contribute something for or against my request? the only thing you do here is attacking me personally while you dont seem to have a clue about the topic.
and btw you have proven alot of times that you dont have a clue about this game in general, so plz leave us untroubled this time <3
Fri 25 Oct 2019 12:43 PM by Cadebrennus
inoeth wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:13 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 6:59 AM
Why do you keep asking for free shit on a class that is already strong within its archetype?

because you still dont know shit about hunters

inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:57 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:47 AM
inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 6:17 AM
dude rly.... no one believes you, do you believe yourself?

I believe in full words and sentences that start with a capital letter. Let's start there in regards to what I believe in.

If your PvP ability is anything like your typing/grammar abilities I can see why you keep asking for nerfs to everything that you face and buffs to anything that you play.

nice ad hominem dude. perfect example.
would you now leave this thread or contribute something for or against my request? the only thing you do here is attacking me personally while you dont seem to have a clue about the topic.
and btw you have proven alot of times that you dont have a clue about this game in general, so plz leave us untroubled this time <3

23 2359 OCT 2019: Me asking why you keep asking for free shit.

24 0313 OCT 2019: You, resorting to an ad hominem attack.
Fri 25 Oct 2019 1:11 PM by inoeth
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 12:43 PM
inoeth wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:13 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 6:59 AM
Why do you keep asking for free shit on a class that is already strong within its archetype?

because you still dont know shit about hunters

inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:57 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:47 AM
I believe in full words and sentences that start with a capital letter. Let's start there in regards to what I believe in.

If your PvP ability is anything like your typing/grammar abilities I can see why you keep asking for nerfs to everything that you face and buffs to anything that you play.

nice ad hominem dude. perfect example.
would you now leave this thread or contribute something for or against my request? the only thing you do here is attacking me personally while you dont seem to have a clue about the topic.
and btw you have proven alot of times that you dont have a clue about this game in general, so plz leave us untroubled this time <3

23 2359 OCT 2019: Me asking why you keep asking for free shit.

24 0313 OCT 2019: You, resorting to an ad hominem attack.

xD that is not exactly an ad hominem but okay. though you still refuse to bring any argument and obviously didnt read my op...
also i must admid that i am really sick of talking to you because its the same every time... you dont have a clue, but stating stupid things and then deny to bring any evidence but continue to spread those false information even though you get disproved by others.
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:22 PM by Cadebrennus
inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 1:11 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 12:43 PM
inoeth wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:13 AM
because you still dont know shit about hunters

inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:57 AM
nice ad hominem dude. perfect example.
would you now leave this thread or contribute something for or against my request? the only thing you do here is attacking me personally while you dont seem to have a clue about the topic.
and btw you have proven alot of times that you dont have a clue about this game in general, so plz leave us untroubled this time <3

23 2359 OCT 2019: Me asking why you keep asking for free shit.

24 0313 OCT 2019: You, resorting to an ad hominem attack.

xD that is not exactly an ad hominem but okay. though you still refuse to bring any argument and obviously didnt read my op...
also i must admid that i am really sick of talking to you because its the same every time... you dont have a clue, but stating stupid things and then deny to bring any evidence but continue to spread those false information even though you get disproved by others.

Me: posts based on evidence and testing (including logs)

You: nuh-uh!
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:24 PM by Cadebrennus
inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 1:11 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 12:43 PM
inoeth wrote:
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:13 AM
because you still dont know shit about hunters

inoeth wrote:
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:57 AM
nice ad hominem dude. perfect example.
would you now leave this thread or contribute something for or against my request? the only thing you do here is attacking me personally while you dont seem to have a clue about the topic.
and btw you have proven alot of times that you dont have a clue about this game in general, so plz leave us untroubled this time <3

23 2359 OCT 2019: Me asking why you keep asking for free shit.

24 0313 OCT 2019: You, resorting to an ad hominem attack.

xD that is not exactly an ad hominem but okay. though you still refuse to bring any argument and obviously didnt read my op...
also i must admid that i am really sick of talking to you because its the same every time... you dont have a clue, but stating stupid things and then deny to bring any evidence but continue to spread those false information even though you get disproved by others.

Me: posts based on evidence and testing (including logs)

You: nuh-uh!
Fri 25 Oct 2019 10:32 PM by Cadebrennus
You asking for free shit
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Sun 27 Oct 2019 2:29 PM by Freedomcall
Siouxsie wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 1:59 PM
gotwqqd wrote:
Wed 23 Oct 2019 9:50 PM
Siouxsie wrote:
Wed 23 Oct 2019 4:55 PM
+1

I’d say it belongs @ stab with a better growth rate and the bleed should be added to the lunge

Are you kidding? With the insane evade rates? You'd never get a 3-chain style off.
Especially vs nightshades which have almost 40% evade rate which is insanely high.

LMFAO
These two hunters really enjoy exaggerating.
One says NS hits hunter for 180mh 60oh, and the other says evade rate of NS against hunter is 40% lolololol

Gimme a break. are you guys not templated or what?
You guys can suggest what you want.
But at least you shouldn't lie and try to spread misinformation.
Sun 27 Oct 2019 2:48 PM by Freedomcall
Siouxsie wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 2:33 PM
Freedomcall wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 2:29 PM
Siouxsie wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 1:59 PM
Are you kidding? With the insane evade rates? You'd never get a 3-chain style off.
Especially vs nightshades which have almost 40% evade rate which is insanely high.

LMFAO
These two hunters really enjoy exaggerating.
One says NS hits hunter for 180mh 60oh, and the other says evade rate of NS against hunter is 40% lolololol

Gimme a break. are you guys not templated or what?
You guys can suggest what you want.
But at least you shouldn't lie and try to spread misinformation.

Yes, fully templated. 37.5% evade rate on nightshades.
If I have pet out that drops to 27.5% (only 10% drop)

It's still substantial.

Yeah so you fight without your pet?
And is 27.5% = 40%?

Then I'll start saying from now that hunter evade rate is just as same as NS.
Cuz hunter evades 15% against NS, and NS 27.5% against Hunter.
Sun 27 Oct 2019 4:07 PM by gotwqqd
Siouxsie wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 1:59 PM
gotwqqd wrote:
Wed 23 Oct 2019 9:50 PM
Siouxsie wrote:
Wed 23 Oct 2019 4:55 PM
+1

I’d say it belongs @ stab with a better growth rate and the bleed should be added to the lunge

Are you kidding? With the insane evade rates? You'd never get a 3-chain style off.
Especially vs nightshades which have almost 40% evade rate which is insanely high.
Who cares about the bleed
The point was making a terrible three part chain useful
The second part would get increased damage and the condition asked for.
Sun 27 Oct 2019 4:41 PM by inoeth
gotwqqd wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 4:07 PM
Siouxsie wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 1:59 PM
gotwqqd wrote:
Wed 23 Oct 2019 9:50 PM
I’d say it belongs @ stab with a better growth rate and the bleed should be added to the lunge

Are you kidding? With the insane evade rates? You'd never get a 3-chain style off.
Especially vs nightshades which have almost 40% evade rate which is insanely high.
Who cares about the bleed
The point was making a terrible three part chain useful
The second part would get increased damage and the condition asked for.

that would be custom, on live they put the asr to lunging thrust ;P
a three part chain would never be usefull because you would never get that through anyway
Sun 27 Oct 2019 5:24 PM by gotwqqd
inoeth wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 4:41 PM
gotwqqd wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 4:07 PM
Siouxsie wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 1:59 PM
Are you kidding? With the insane evade rates? You'd never get a 3-chain style off.
Especially vs nightshades which have almost 40% evade rate which is insanely high.
Who cares about the bleed
The point was making a terrible three part chain useful
The second part would get increased damage and the condition asked for.

that would be custom, on live they put the asr to lunging thrust ;P
a three part chain would never be usefull because you would never get that through anyway
Which is why I was trying to make the second part useful
Mon 28 Oct 2019 6:42 AM by inoeth
gotwqqd wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 5:24 PM
inoeth wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 4:41 PM
gotwqqd wrote:
Sun 27 Oct 2019 4:07 PM
Who cares about the bleed
The point was making a terrible three part chain useful
The second part would get increased damage and the condition asked for.

that would be custom, on live they put the asr to lunging thrust ;P
a three part chain would never be usefull because you would never get that through anyway
Which is why I was trying to make the second part useful

actually i dont care if its A or B as long as it is at least an anytimer chain
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