Hunter spec advice/critique - Phoenix Freeshard

44spear/40bow/35st/34bc

Any downsides? Besides the dormant 25 skill points

Fri 18 Oct 2019 5:10 AM by Dunga

to much bow, to little bc.

for that playstyle i would go for 35bow, comp50 stealth, 42/43 bc, rest spear

Fri 18 Oct 2019 7:57 AM by Cadebrennus

Solo I prefer Sword (you can use the styles either sword & board or 2h).

Grouped I prefer Spear.

Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:40 AM by inoeth

Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 7:57 AM
Solo I prefer Sword (you can use the styles either sword & board or 2h).

Grouped I prefer Spear.

sword is absolute bullshit without legendary weapons.... or you only hunt infiltrators then it might work

Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:41 AM by inoeth

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 12:17 AM
44spear/40bow/35st/34bc

Any downsides? Besides the dormant 25 skill points

40 bow is wasted points, drop that to 27 and put the rest into BC/spear

Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:46 AM by Cadebrennus

inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:40 AM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 7:57 AM
Solo I prefer Sword (you can use the styles either sword & board or 2h).

Grouped I prefer Spear.

sword is absolute bullshit without legendary weapons.... or you only hunt infiltrators then it might work

Spear is much more difficult solo unless you are an absolute master at the 1v1 back stun. Sword has an off-block stun that you can follow up with a 2handed hit. So, not absolute bullshit.

People who speak in absolutes are bullshit.

Fri 18 Oct 2019 9:20 AM by inoeth

Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:46 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:40 AM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 7:57 AM
Solo I prefer Sword (you can use the styles either sword & board or 2h).

Grouped I prefer Spear.

sword is absolute bullshit without legendary weapons.... or you only hunt infiltrators then it might work

Spear is much more difficult solo unless you are an absolute master at the 1v1 back stun. Sword has an off-block stun that you can follow up with a 2handed hit. So, not absolute bullshit.

People who speak in absolutes are bullshit.

dude really... stun is useless since everybody will purge it anyway. what makes spear strong is the .68 anytimer and the option to change dmg type.
with sword you are bound to slash only which is a huge disadvantage vs hib stealther and if you take a look around you wont find any descent sword hunter on this server. many tried it and respeced to spear again.
you should play classes yourself before spreading you pen and paper daoc knowledge.

Fri 18 Oct 2019 10:56 AM by ExcretusMaximus

Calling stuns useless because Purge exists may be the dumbest thing I've seen anyone say on these forums.

Fri 18 Oct 2019 11:05 AM by inoeth

ExcretusMaximus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 10:56 AM
Calling stuns useless because Purge exists may be the dumbest thing I've seen anyone say on these forums.

okay mr. progamer then tell me whats the benefit of a purged stun?

btw try to get a two part evade chain off with a hunter vs evade7 opponents

for sure it looks nice and strong on paper but in reality it is not
you can also ask the higher rank SBs here, they dont even bother to try to get their stun through because it is going to get purged and then you have to reapply all the poisons.... if you manage to the the two part chain off in the first place...

also as a hunter if you want to kill rangers/ns in melee you have to d/q and asr debuff them which is hard enough since there are no debuff weapons for hunters you have to charge that and now you want to stun your target and get purged? lol
if you dont have a clue, better shut up

Fri 18 Oct 2019 1:06 PM by Cadebrennus

inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 9:20 AM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:46 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:40 AM
sword is absolute bullshit without legendary weapons.... or you only hunt infiltrators then it might work

Spear is much more difficult solo unless you are an absolute master at the 1v1 back stun. Sword has an off-block stun that you can follow up with a 2handed hit. So, not absolute bullshit.

People who speak in absolutes are bullshit.

dude really... stun is useless since everybody will purge it anyway. what makes spear strong is the .68 anytimer and the option to change dmg type.
with sword you are bound to slash only which is a huge disadvantage vs hib stealther and if you take a look around you wont find any descent sword hunter on this server. many tried it and respeced to spear again.
you should play classes yourself before spreading you pen and paper daoc knowledge.

I did just fine with my Sword Hunter during beta. I don't have time to play and template multiple 50's after launch though. Playing does not equal pen and paper

Fri 18 Oct 2019 1:28 PM by inoeth

Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 1:06 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 9:20 AM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:46 AM
Spear is much more difficult solo unless you are an absolute master at the 1v1 back stun. Sword has an off-block stun that you can follow up with a 2handed hit. So, not absolute bullshit.

People who speak in absolutes are bullshit.

dude really... stun is useless since everybody will purge it anyway. what makes spear strong is the .68 anytimer and the option to change dmg type.
with sword you are bound to slash only which is a huge disadvantage vs hib stealther and if you take a look around you wont find any descent sword hunter on this server. many tried it and respeced to spear again.
you should play classes yourself before spreading you pen and paper daoc knowledge.

I did just fine with my Sword Hunter during beta. I don't have time to play and template multiple 50's after launch though. Playing does not equal pen and paper

lol beta. that was old emain where you met mostly albs plus dmg was higher there too. normally you are the one stating that beta was another game, now you are argumenting with beta thats just lol

Fri 18 Oct 2019 4:07 PM by Cadebrennus

inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 1:28 PM
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 1:06 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 9:20 AM
dude really... stun is useless since everybody will purge it anyway. what makes spear strong is the .68 anytimer and the option to change dmg type.
with sword you are bound to slash only which is a huge disadvantage vs hib stealther and if you take a look around you wont find any descent sword hunter on this server. many tried it and respeced to spear again.
you should play classes yourself before spreading you pen and paper daoc knowledge.

I did just fine with my Sword Hunter during beta. I don't have time to play and template multiple 50's after launch though. Playing does not equal pen and paper

lol beta. that was old emain where you met mostly albs plus dmg was higher there too. normally you are the one stating that beta was another game, now you are argumenting with beta thats just lol

This was post-melee nerf too. I should know because I'm the one that first called out the devs on the melee nerf that they later walked back (but not 100%) because they got called out.

Fri 18 Oct 2019 6:57 PM by Dunga

Sword isnt so bad

str/con+dex/quick debuff hurts,the off evade chain stun works more often then u think… ofc u have to switch s/s-2h to get close to spear in relation of damage. much better weapon collection... only norse would be the race for sword, for me.
at the end i like more spear. the big + is the choice for thrust/slash,the backstun and the higher damstats/ws.

Fri 18 Oct 2019 7:39 PM by inoeth

Dunga wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 6:57 PM
Sword isnt so bad str/con+dex/quick debuff hurts,the off evade chain stun works more often then u think… ofc u have to switch s/s-2h to get close to spear in relation of damage. much better weapon collection... only norse would be the race for sword, for me.
at the end i like more spear. the big + is the choice for thrust/slash,the backstun and the higher damstats/ws.

i will however try it again with rr9. in ranks 1-8 i tried it several times and it was always really really bad

Fri 18 Oct 2019 8:23 PM by gotwqqd

Am I wrong or do some of the chains seem underwhelming?
Where the follow ups have very low damage compared to the initial style or anytime(whirling spear)

Fri 18 Oct 2019 10:22 PM by gotwqqd

I’m gonna try
50Spear/32BC

So go 35/34......which st/arch or arch/st?

Fri 18 Oct 2019 10:32 PM by gotwqqd

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 10:22 PM
I’m gonna try
50Spear/32BC

So go 35/34......which st/arch or arch/st?

I actually decided
44SP/42BC/35ST/32Bow
I don’t want to lose on the stealth speed increase

Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:23 AM by watbrif

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 10:32 PM
gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 10:22 PM
I’m gonna try
50Spear/32BC

So go 35/34......which st/arch or arch/st?

I actually decided
44SP/42BC/35ST/32Bow
I don’t want to lose on the stealth speed increase

This sounds interesting (thinking about a hunter myself, never played one before). Just out of pure interest: how would you play a high spear/pet hunter like this? Open with the bow, then hope for the best with spear/pet?

Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:35 AM by gotwqqd

watbrif wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:23 AM
Just out of pure interest: how does one play a melee hunter? Do you guys still open with the bow?

If I wanted pure melee hunter
44spear/43BC/45 Stealth/11bow
Or
50/43/36/18

I guess if you want to drop stealth to 45/35 you up the bow
Also can drop best speed

Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:38 AM by watbrif

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:35 AM
watbrif wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:23 AM
Just out of pure interest: how does one play a melee hunter? Do you guys still open with the bow?

If I wanted pure melee hunter
50spear
43BC
45 Stealth
11bow

I guess if you want to drop stealth to 45/35 you up the bow
Also can drop best speed

Any experience with this? How viable would this be solo?

(Sorry, I "updated" my post above too late...).

Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:44 AM by gotwqqd

watbrif wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:38 AM
gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:35 AM
watbrif wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:23 AM
Just out of pure interest: how does one play a melee hunter? Do you guys still open with the bow?

If I wanted pure melee hunter
50spear
43BC
45 Stealth
11bow

I guess if you want to drop stealth to 45/35 you up the bow
Also can drop best speed

Any experience with this? How viable would this be solo?

(Sorry, I "updated" my post above too late...).

Well you would be moving fast under stealth which helps
And a rear stun followed by the two side styles would be a good start

I think there are a ton of hunter specs viable
More so than most classes

50sp/42bc/35st/21bow
The long bleed from 50 intrigues me

Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:53 AM by gotwqqd

watbrif wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:38 AM
gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:35 AM
watbrif wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:23 AM
Just out of pure interest: how does one play a melee hunter? Do you guys still open with the bow?

If I wanted pure melee hunter
50spear
43BC
45 Stealth
11bow

I guess if you want to drop stealth to 45/35 you up the bow
Also can drop best speed

Any experience with this? How viable would this be solo?

(Sorry, I "updated" my post above too late...).

Well I’m leveling hunter now so I can’t say how great bow is above 30.
I’ve been recommended
35 bow for rapid fire ..and told damage above this is not much
40 bow that this is where bow damage drop off is
30 bow for penetrating arrow and better spent melee
27 bow for last crit shot best spent elsewhere

So it’s all over the place where bow should be taken, but not once have I heard over 40

Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:57 AM by gotwqqd

Any hunter opinions out there on if 43 speed burst really a good thing?
Or is it marginal?

Also the 50 spear bleed...does it come into play? Or is the fight determined before it matter much?

Sat 19 Oct 2019 10:46 AM by inoeth

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:57 AM
Any hunter opinions out there on if 43 speed burst really a good thing?
Or is it marginal?

Also the 50 spear bleed...does it come into play? Or is the fight determined before it matter much?

nice to have but not really needed since speed of speed classes is still faster and the yellow speed is faster than realm speed.... id say not worth specing

in a 1on1 you rarely get off the side style and even if 100 dmg from the bleed is not really worth the trouble ;D 50 spear purely for higher WS and lower miss rate

Mon 21 Oct 2019 9:02 PM by Runental

Therefore i have a question to some styles aswell,- cuz im a bit new on this..
Can any1 explain me how EXACTLY does style bonuses work?
Lv. 12 spear "Dismissal" for example.. Nothing special about this anytimer except the "HIGH" Defence bonus.. but i do not see any difference when i test this style (just done on Mobs atm).
When i count 1+1 after using this "unimportant style" my Defence i.e evade shoudl be higher?
How exactly does this work? Or are all bonuses unimportant because they do not work?

greetz

Tue 22 Oct 2019 6:28 AM by inoeth

Runental wrote: ↑
Mon 21 Oct 2019 9:02 PM
Therefore i have a question to some styles aswell,- cuz im a bit new on this..
Can any1 explain me how EXACTLY does style bonuses work?
Lv. 12 spear "Dismissal" for example.. Nothing special about this anytimer except the "HIGH" Defence bonus.. but i do not see any difference when i test this style (just done on Mobs atm).
When i count 1+1 after using this "unimportant style" my Defence i.e evade shoudl be higher?
How exactly does this work? Or are all bonuses unimportant because they do not work?

greetz

if lvl 50 and geared in lvl 51 stuff yo have a base chance to miss on enemy of about 15%-17%
so if you use a style which has a "medium" bonus to hit, your chance to miss will be decreased by 10% => 5-7% miss chance
if you use a style with a "high" defense bonus, the miss chance of your opponent will be increased by 15% => around 30% miss chance for enemy minus his own to hit bonus
if you have medium defense malus, it increases enemys to hit bonus by 10%
so in the end you want both as high as possible, but there are very few styles which bring both. most times its enough to just have high to hit bonus

values are:
low 5% medium 10% high 15% very high 20%

Tue 22 Oct 2019 7:30 AM by Runental

Nice, thx for clarification Ino.

Tue 22 Oct 2019 1:16 PM by gotwqqd

What’s the lowest archery anyone has tried and how did they like it?
Or lowest bow spec that is useful?

Tue 22 Oct 2019 1:48 PM by Dunga

18, was ok.... it depends on what you want to be, you can't be best in both things.
if id liked the bow i would go for 35bow bc of rapidfire an some more dam, if i liked mor s/s or spear i would start with 18/20 bow at rr4 and raised it up after each rr up….

Tue 22 Oct 2019 4:19 PM by Ardri

35 bow (rapid fire very useful for getting last shot off or beating someone in interrupts)
50 comp stealth (no brainer)
42 bc (14 value difference for red spec af worth 2'ish pt drop in spear)
Remaining 39+ pts into spear (1st time backstun with thrust/slash > crappy sword)

Tue 22 Oct 2019 6:28 PM by borodino1812

Ardri wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Oct 2019 4:19 PM
35 bow (rapid fire very useful for getting last shot off or beating someone in interrupts)
50 comp stealth (no brainer)
42 bc (14 value difference for red spec af worth 2'ish pt drop in spear)
Remaining 39+ pts into spear (1st time backstun with thrust/slash > crappy sword)

That is pretty close to the RR5 spec I run now

37 bow ( for 52 composite )
35 stealth
43 bc
39 spear

Tue 22 Oct 2019 6:42 PM by gotwqqd

Well I tried 50 spear
The 50!style was completely underwhelming for the point spent from 44-50

Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:17 AM by inoeth

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Oct 2019 6:42 PM
Well I tried 50 spear
The 50!style was completely under weakening for the point spent from 44-50

really? you dont say! ;D
as i said before you only skill 50 spear for WS

Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:19 AM by inoeth

gotwqqd wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Oct 2019 1:16 PM
What’s the lowest archery anyone has tried and how did they like it?
Or lowest bow spec that is useful?

clearly 27 where you get the last crit shot

Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:23 AM by inoeth

borodino1812 wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Oct 2019 6:28 PM
Ardri wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Oct 2019 4:19 PM
35 bow (rapid fire very useful for getting last shot off or beating someone in interrupts)
50 comp stealth (no brainer)
42 bc (14 value difference for red spec af worth 2'ish pt drop in spear)
Remaining 39+ pts into spear (1st time backstun with thrust/slash > crappy sword)

That is pretty close to the RR5 spec I run now

37 bow ( for 52 composite )
35 stealth
43 bc
39 spear

why so many ppl dump so much into bow? its well known that it does nothing for you... better get higher dex if you guys want to run sniper hunter.

50 bc
27 bow
39 spear
34 stealth

Thu 24 Oct 2019 11:11 AM by borodino1812

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:23 AM
borodino1812 wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Oct 2019 6:28 PM
Ardri wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Oct 2019 4:19 PM
35 bow (rapid fire very useful for getting last shot off or beating someone in interrupts)
50 comp stealth (no brainer)
42 bc (14 value difference for red spec af worth 2'ish pt drop in spear)
Remaining 39+ pts into spear (1st time backstun with thrust/slash > crappy sword)

That is pretty close to the RR5 spec I run now

37 bow ( for 52 composite )
35 stealth
43 bc
39 spear

why so many ppl dump so much into bow? its well known that it does nothing for you... better get higher dex if you guys want to run sniper hunter.

50 bc
27 bow
39 spear
34 stealth

Since I am RR5 your spec isn't really possible. You'd either have to run with 49 composite stealth, or give up the spear backstyle, neither of which is a very good idea. At RR6, you might have a point.

Thu 24 Oct 2019 11:23 AM by inoeth

borodino1812 wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 11:11 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:23 AM
borodino1812 wrote: ↑
Tue 22 Oct 2019 6:28 PM
That is pretty close to the RR5 spec I run now

37 bow ( for 52 composite )
35 stealth
43 bc
39 spear

why so many ppl dump so much into bow? its well known that it does nothing for you... better get higher dex if you guys want to run sniper hunter.

50 bc
27 bow
39 spear
34 stealth

Since I am RR5 your spec isn't really possible. You'd either have to run with 49 composite stealth, or give up the spear backstyle, neither of which is a very good idea. At RR6, you might have a point.

i currently only have 49 stealth and dont miss anything... especially when you want to be a sniper anyway, you want to stay in areas where it is not common for sneaks to roam.

at your rr i would suggest you to up spear skill though

47 spear
35 stealth
27 bow
42 bc

Thu 24 Oct 2019 12:18 PM by gromet12

inoeth wrote:
borodino1812 wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 11:11 AM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 10:23 AM
why so many ppl dump so much into bow? its well known that it does nothing for you... better get higher dex if you guys want to run sniper hunter.

50 bc
27 bow
39 spear
34 stealth

Since I am RR5 your spec isn't really possible. You'd either have to run with 49 composite stealth, or give up the spear backstyle, neither of which is a very good idea. At RR6, you might have a point.

i currently only have 49 stealth and dont miss anything... especially when you want to be a sniper anyway, you want to stay in areas where it is not common for sneaks to roam.

at your rr i would suggest you to up spear skill though

47 spear
35 stealth
27 bow
42 bc

Anything above 51 weapon is for the style, 47 makes no sense as you gain nothing for that extra above 44 if you plan on using that style. That's an extra 140 spec points wasted for nothing

Thu 24 Oct 2019 12:27 PM by ColdHands

To the Sword hunter comments . I solo'd a dwarf sword hunter until the charge item reduction, and ran multiple weapons depending on the fight,
Evade chain stun was rare and I only had my 1h out when i was trying to get a 20% hast proc to go off so block stuns didnt happen much either.
Most fights were won with rapid fire and finishing with strong dps and mopain/arms

Currently
50BC
40 Stealth - for movement speed
39 Spear - I'm decent at getting off back stun but not great, with the high BC DQ buff damage and swing speed is ok.
18 Bow - I can nearly kill non shield targets with bow only - more effective than you might think

Thu 24 Oct 2019 12:48 PM by gotwqqd

gromet12 wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 12:18 PM
inoeth wrote:
borodino1812 wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 11:11 AM
Since I am RR5 your spec isn't really possible. You'd either have to run with 49 composite stealth, or give up the spear backstyle, neither of which is a very good idea. At RR6, you might have a point.

i currently only have 49 stealth and dont miss anything... especially when you want to be a sniper anyway, you want to stay in areas where it is not common for sneaks to roam.

at your rr i would suggest you to up spear skill though

47 spear
35 stealth
27 bow
42 bc

Anything above 51 weapon is for the style, 47 makes no sense as you gain nothing for that extra above 44 if you plan on using that style. That's an extra 140 spec points wasted for nothing

Weapon skill

Thu 24 Oct 2019 2:27 PM by gromet12

gotwqqd wrote:
gromet12 wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 12:18 PM
inoeth wrote: i currently only have 49 stealth and dont miss anything... especially when you want to be a sniper anyway, you want to stay in areas where it is not common for sneaks to roam.

at your rr i would suggest you to up spear skill though

47 spear
35 stealth
27 bow
42 bc

Anything above 51 weapon is for the style, 47 makes no sense as you gain nothing for that extra above 44 if you plan on using that style. That's an extra 140 spec points wasted for nothing

Weapon skill

I'm not sure the WS gain is worth the points though, on the lowest melee WS table specing higher isnt going to help you get through defenses when most targets you can attack will WS debuff. The gain of having a skill that takes str/dex is all but removed from this server while the con's are still in place.

Thu 24 Oct 2019 2:36 PM by inoeth

gromet12 wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 12:18 PM
inoeth wrote:
borodino1812 wrote: ↑
Thu 24 Oct 2019 11:11 AM
Since I am RR5 your spec isn't really possible. You'd either have to run with 49 composite stealth, or give up the spear backstyle, neither of which is a very good idea. At RR6, you might have a point.

i currently only have 49 stealth and dont miss anything... especially when you want to be a sniper anyway, you want to stay in areas where it is not common for sneaks to roam.

at your rr i would suggest you to up spear skill though

47 spear
35 stealth
27 bow
42 bc

Anything above 51 weapon is for the style, 47 makes no sense as you gain nothing for that extra above 44 if you plan on using that style. That's an extra 140 spec points wasted for nothing

wrong: your WS increases and so does the style dmg, your base dmg however will stay the same thats true

Thu 24 Oct 2019 2:57 PM by BashPi

inoeth wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 11:05 AM
ExcretusMaximus wrote: ↑
Fri 18 Oct 2019 10:56 AM
Calling stuns useless because Purge exists may be the dumbest thing I've seen anyone say on these forums.

okay mr. progamer then tell me whats the benefit of a purged stun?

btw try to get a two part evade chain off with a hunter vs evade7 opponents

for sure it looks nice and strong on paper but in reality it is not
you can also ask the higher rank SBs here, they dont even bother to try to get their stun through because it is going to get purged and then you have to reapply all the poisons.... if you manage to the the two part chain off in the first place...

also as a hunter if you want to kill rangers/ns in melee you have to d/q and asr debuff them which is hard enough since there are no debuff weapons for hunters you have to charge that and now you want to stun your target and get purged? lol
if you dont have a clue, better shut up

thats what i fear the most. in fight after evade LA stun. you dont have enough points for high purge in low rr areas. so it is mostly not ready. tamy is hunting me with that shit

Tue 29 Oct 2019 2:59 PM by Siouxsie

Odins Wrath -- supposedly the highest spear growth style in the game only hits for maybe 15-20 higher than Whirling Spear and maybe 5-8 hits higher than Return Thrust/Extend Reach. (Good luck landing Extend Reach on an assassin, with their insanely high evade rate)

Razor's Edge and Perforate.. also very situational, hard to land most of the time. Even hitting a target with Razor's Edge, stunning them, then getting off Odins Wrath, still doesn't damage as much as it should.

I think someone did the maths wrong when computing the spear styles. The spear growth rates aren't as good as they should be.

Wed 30 Oct 2019 12:44 PM by inoeth

Siouxsie wrote: ↑
Tue 29 Oct 2019 2:59 PM
Odins Wrath -- supposedly the highest spear growth style in the game only hits for maybe 15-20 higher than Whirling Spear and maybe 5-8 hits higher than Return Thrust/Extend Reach. (Good luck landing Extend Reach on an assassin, with their insanely high evade rate)

Razor's Edge and Perforate.. also very situational, hard to land most of the time. Even hitting a target with Razor's Edge, stunning them, then getting off Odins Wrath, still doesn't damage as much as it should.

I think someone did the maths wrong when computing the spear styles. The spear growth rates aren't as good as they should be.

imo the dmg is okish and also the styles in general, but hunter lacks of a useable asr style...