They really need help. Nobody wants to play them because the only real use is TWF in seige. Heals and melee are horrible. There has to be something to make them a lot better such as specing Shields and/or better heal line. Hunters received a way to OP upgrade for them which was very overdone. Wardens are the class that needs help the most.
Please do something about Wardens.
Started 1 Sep 2019
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kalimah
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Sun 1 Sep 2019 4:18 PM
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gotwqqd
I’d say heals are not the objective of the class and should be good where they are. Shield would be a good start, but they would need more points to play with.kalimah wrote: ↑Sun 1 Sep 2019 2:59 PMThey really need help. Nobody wants to play them because the only real use is TWF in seige. Heals and melee are horrible. There has to be something to make them a lot better such as specing Shields and/or better heal line. Hunters received a way to OP upgrade for them which was very overdone. Wardens are the class that needs help the most.
As is, you could almost allow free weapon line and the class is underwhelming. They would also need an instant form of cc. Another thing for leveling without pots endo regen spell could be perma on.
Sun 1 Sep 2019 9:28 PM
by
ExcretusMaximus
gotwqqd wrote: ↑Sun 1 Sep 2019 4:18 PMheals are not the objective of the class .... you could almost allow free weapon line ... They would also need an instant form of cc.
No.
Just ... no.
Mon 2 Sep 2019 3:42 AM
by
easytoremember
what's a warden
Mon 2 Sep 2019 5:34 AM
by
jelzinga_EU
kalimah wrote: ↑Sun 1 Sep 2019 2:59 PMThey really need help. Nobody wants to play them because the only real use is TWF in seige. Heals and melee are horrible. There has to be something to make them a lot better such as specing Shields and/or better heal line. Hunters received a way to OP upgrade for them which was very overdone. Wardens are the class that needs help the most.
I think comparing with hunters is a bit silly. That being said, wardens are currently absolute shit as a solo-class and pretty decent in 8-men. You have to consider the different roles and in what aspect you want to buff them. Buffing heals does nothing for solo but at the same time makes a Hib 8-men even stronger.
Mon 2 Sep 2019 11:15 PM
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Keelia
Wardens should get cure nearsight imo, or take it away from friars.
Mon 2 Sep 2019 11:57 PM
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Cadebrennus
Tue 3 Sep 2019 12:01 AM
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Cadebrennus
jelzinga_EU wrote: ↑Mon 2 Sep 2019 5:34 AMkalimah wrote: ↑Sun 1 Sep 2019 2:59 PMThey really need help. Nobody wants to play them because the only real use is TWF in seige. Heals and melee are horrible. There has to be something to make them a lot better such as specing Shields and/or better heal line. Hunters received a way to OP upgrade for them which was very overdone. Wardens are the class that needs help the most.
I think comparing with hunters is a bit silly. That being said, wardens are currently absolute shit as a solo-class and pretty decent in 8-men. You have to consider the different roles and in what aspect you want to buff them. Buffing heals does nothing for solo but at the same time makes a Hib 8-men even stronger.
What are your thoughts on giving Wardens Shield spec with no additional spec points vs giving them Shield spec with additional spec points? Or keeping no Shield spec at all? I'm pro Shield spec but undecided on the spec point issue.
Tue 3 Sep 2019 12:02 AM
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gotwqqd
If no addition points don’t bother giving shield specCadebrennus wrote: ↑Tue 3 Sep 2019 12:01 AMjelzinga_EU wrote: ↑Mon 2 Sep 2019 5:34 AMkalimah wrote: ↑Sun 1 Sep 2019 2:59 PMThey really need help. Nobody wants to play them because the only real use is TWF in seige. Heals and melee are horrible. There has to be something to make them a lot better such as specing Shields and/or better heal line. Hunters received a way to OP upgrade for them which was very overdone. Wardens are the class that needs help the most.
I think comparing with hunters is a bit silly. That being said, wardens are currently absolute shit as a solo-class and pretty decent in 8-men. You have to consider the different roles and in what aspect you want to buff them. Buffing heals does nothing for solo but at the same time makes a Hib 8-men even stronger.
What are your thoughts on giving Wardens Shield spec with no additional spec points vs giving them Shield spec with additional spec points? Or keeping no Shield spec at all? I'm pro Shield spec but undecided on the spec point issue.
Tue 3 Sep 2019 1:33 AM
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Freedomcall
Well it's true that wardens are not popular, but they don't look weak or gimped.
Not sure cuz i didn't play myself thou^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpCmFeD5z7s
This is the vid i watched few months ago, and warden seemed to be really fun with those side snares and heals.
Not sure cuz i didn't play myself thou^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpCmFeD5z7s
This is the vid i watched few months ago, and warden seemed to be really fun with those side snares and heals.
Tue 3 Sep 2019 5:36 AM
by
REVOLTE
gotwqqd wrote: ↑Sun 1 Sep 2019 4:18 PMI’d say heals are not the objective of the class and should be good where they are. Shield would be a good start, but they would need more points to play with.
As is, you could almost allow free weapon line and the class is underwhelming. They would also need an instant form of cc. Another thing for leveling without pots endo regen spell could be perma on.
i really dont mean to offend you in any way, but bro, you have absolutely zero clue about wardens.
wardens are like super glue. a good warden makes an already good 8-man nearly unkillable.
they dont need love. at all. and tbh if i was still into 8v8 n stuff id totally play one.
Tue 3 Sep 2019 5:38 AM
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jelzinga_EU
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Tue 3 Sep 2019 12:01 AMjelzinga_EU wrote: ↑Mon 2 Sep 2019 5:34 AMkalimah wrote: ↑Sun 1 Sep 2019 2:59 PMThey really need help. Nobody wants to play them because the only real use is TWF in seige. Heals and melee are horrible. There has to be something to make them a lot better such as specing Shields and/or better heal line. Hunters received a way to OP upgrade for them which was very overdone. Wardens are the class that needs help the most.
I think comparing with hunters is a bit silly. That being said, wardens are currently absolute shit as a solo-class and pretty decent in 8-men. You have to consider the different roles and in what aspect you want to buff them. Buffing heals does nothing for solo but at the same time makes a Hib 8-men even stronger.
What are your thoughts on giving Wardens Shield spec with no additional spec points vs giving them Shield spec with additional spec points? Or keeping no Shield spec at all? I'm pro Shield spec but undecided on the spec point issue.
I don't have a problem with giving wardens shield-spec without additional points. On the other hand, do you think that would make them more popular ?
Tue 3 Sep 2019 9:37 AM
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kalimah
The reason why Albs dominate in keep takes is because they have 10+ Reavers with TWF ready to go. Wardens have it but nobody plays them because they are eh. On top of Hibs underpopulation, it makes matters even worse. Nobody wants to play them on the 1.65 patch. The revamped warden on live is a good example on how the warden should be fixed. The friar and warden have similar roles correct? Friars can hit like a truck and heal 100x better than Wardens, plus some other goodies. Wardens have PBT,. Their only saving grace.
Tue 3 Sep 2019 10:00 AM
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Cadebrennus
jelzinga_EU wrote: ↑Tue 3 Sep 2019 5:38 AMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Tue 3 Sep 2019 12:01 AMjelzinga_EU wrote: ↑Mon 2 Sep 2019 5:34 AMI think comparing with hunters is a bit silly. That being said, wardens are currently absolute shit as a solo-class and pretty decent in 8-men. You have to consider the different roles and in what aspect you want to buff them. Buffing heals does nothing for solo but at the same time makes a Hib 8-men even stronger.
What are your thoughts on giving Wardens Shield spec with no additional spec points vs giving them Shield spec with additional spec points? Or keeping no Shield spec at all? I'm pro Shield spec but undecided on the spec point issue.
I don't have a problem with giving wardens shield-spec without additional points. On the other hand, do you think that would make them more popular ?
I think Shield alone would help, as it would boost their peeling abilities, even without getting 42 Shield. My Merc does fine with 35 Shield.
Wed 4 Sep 2019 12:47 PM
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elninost0rm
Keelia wrote: ↑Mon 2 Sep 2019 11:15 PMWardens should get cure nearsight imo, or take it away from friars.
I wonder what suggestion you'll make the next time you realm hop. I'm at the edge of my seat.
Wed 4 Sep 2019 1:53 PM
by
Bradekes
I gave up playing on here (Phoenix) because hibs lacked any love, especially wardens. Hib still the only realm with no realm buffs to any class type, everything they've received the other realms got plus many other buffs. They've only received nerfs.
Sure hibs have a good 8man setup that's cookie cutter.. But not everyone plays the same way and hib is lackluster in broader horizons.
I'm hoping Camelot Unchained finally gives a rpg that's worth my time..
Sure hibs have a good 8man setup that's cookie cutter.. But not everyone plays the same way and hib is lackluster in broader horizons.
I'm hoping Camelot Unchained finally gives a rpg that's worth my time..
Wed 4 Sep 2019 2:00 PM
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Keelia
Lol realm hop. I play all three realms because I go where the action is at that current time. I also said wardens should get cure nearsight a long time ago while I was playing alb, so yea what’s your point exactly? I also feel that savages get quad hits too frequently and we run 2 in or mid melee group. So was your point that I only make suggestions to make the realm I’m on better because you should look into things before you post some stupid realm pride crap.
Shhhhh random
Wed 4 Sep 2019 4:39 PM
by
elninost0rm
Keelia wrote: ↑Wed 4 Sep 2019 2:00 PM
Lol realm hop. I play all three realms because I go where the action is at that current time. I also said wardens should get cure nearsight a long time ago while I was playing alb, so yea what’s your point exactly? I also feel that savages get quad hits too frequently and we run 2 in or mid melee group. So was your point that I only make suggestions to make the realm I’m on better because you should look into things before you post some stupid realm pride crap.
Shhhhh random
Calling someone a random on an almost-20-year-old dead MMO with a waning freeshard population with almost no legitimate 8v8 of which to speak.
Checks out.
Anyway, you should double your efforts on "fixing" the ability to find housing lots because you CBA to do some minor searching. I see that campaign is going well for you.
Wed 4 Sep 2019 5:33 PM
by
Keelia
elninost0rm wrote: ↑Wed 4 Sep 2019 4:39 PMKeelia wrote: ↑Wed 4 Sep 2019 2:00 PMelninost0rm wrote: ↑Wed 4 Sep 2019 12:47 PMI wonder what suggestion you'll make the next time you realm hop. I'm at the edge of my seat.
Lol realm hop. I play all three realms because I go where the action is at that current time. I also said wardens should get cure nearsight a long time ago while I was playing alb, so yea what’s your point exactly? I also feel that savages get quad hits too frequently and we run 2 in or mid melee group. So was your point that I only make suggestions to make the realm I’m on better because you should look into things before you post some stupid realm pride crap.
Shhhhh random
Calling someone a random on an almost-20-year-old dead MMO with a waning freeshard population with almost no legitimate 8v8 of which to speak.
Checks out.
Anyway, you should double your efforts on "fixing" the ability to find housing lots because you CBA to do some minor searching. I see that campaign is going well for you.
The same could be said for someone trolling the forums of a 20 year old dead game.....
And thank you I will continue my campaign for a better way to search housing. I appreciate your support in the matter.
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