Some folks like myself are pretty much done with end game raiding and RvRing but would love to have a perma Thid character to play on occasion. Even with the 3L0 limit, I dont want to make the investment and out grow the BG. Can we bring this feature back?
Request to bring back /RP off
Started 21 Aug 2019
by
florin
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Wed 21 Aug 2019 2:58 PM
by
Sepplord
The investment into gear/etc. wouldn't be lost though, you can remake your toon and swap everything over and start new at 1L1 when you ever actually outlevel the 3L0
The alternativ is intrioducing RR3 as default on enemies that newcomers face, and that wouldn't be beneficial for thid as a whole imo
The alternativ is intrioducing RR3 as default on enemies that newcomers face, and that wouldn't be beneficial for thid as a whole imo
Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:16 PM
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gotwqqd
Sure...if thid is limited ti RR2l5
Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:25 PM
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Jatar
/rp off and 1L5-2L0 would be just fine with me.
Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:43 PM
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Cadebrennus
Even as someone who only sticks to one 50 per realm, it makes me happy to see so many people leveling up and chatting in /LFG. If people are constantly leveling up (quickly I might add) and being social about it to get to Thid, what's wrong with that?
Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:47 PM
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Isavyr
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:43 PMEven as someone who only sticks to one 50 per realm, it makes me happy to see so many people leveling up and chatting in /LFG. If people are constantly leveling up (quickly I might add) and being social about it to get to Thid, what's wrong with that?
You can get to Thid with or without /RP off. The issue is whether the server wants a split RvR population with some players only doing battlegrounds. In my experience, this becomes an issue when a server is low population and the level 50 RvR goals do not line up with player's playstyle.
In my opinion, I'd rather see level 50 RvR optimized than have the RvR population split amongst RvR and battlegrounds.
Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:53 PM
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Cadebrennus
Isavyr wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:47 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:43 PMEven as someone who only sticks to one 50 per realm, it makes me happy to see so many people leveling up and chatting in /LFG. If people are constantly leveling up (quickly I might add) and being social about it to get to Thid, what's wrong with that?
You can get to Thid with or without /RP off. The issue is whether the server wants a split RvR population with some players only doing battlegrounds. In my experience, this becomes an issue when a server is low population and the level 50 RvR goals do not line up with player's playstyle.
In my opinion, I'd rather see level 50 RvR optimized than have the RvR population split amongst RvR and battlegrounds.
Agreed 100%.
Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:55 PM
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Sepplord
Isavyr wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:47 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:43 PMEven as someone who only sticks to one 50 per realm, it makes me happy to see so many people leveling up and chatting in /LFG. If people are constantly leveling up (quickly I might add) and being social about it to get to Thid, what's wrong with that?
You can get to Thid with or without /RP off. The issue is whether the server wants a split RvR population with some players only doing battlegrounds. In my experience, this becomes an issue when a server is low population and the level 50 RvR goals do not line up with player's playstyle.
In my opinion, I'd rather see level 50 RvR optimized than have the RvR population split amongst RvR and battlegrounds.
I believe his point was that people currently outrank Thidranki and therefor are levelling a new char to get there again.
I don't think he is completely off with that claim, although i am unsure how big the impact actually is.
I have no idea how long capping RR in thidranki takes. Has anyone a rough /played number to get RR3 in thidranki?
That number would have to be compared to the levelling time to get a new char thidranki ready, to see how often someone would not have to level anymore with an RP off command
Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:55 PM
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chryso
Cadebrennus wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:43 PMit makes me happy to see so many people leveling up and chatting in /LFG. If people are constantly leveling up (quickly I might add) and being social about it to get to Thid
This is a great point. If your thid toon outlevels the RR then you make a new one. This is a good thing in case there are new people around who need someone to level with.
Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:59 PM
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Sepplord
chryso wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:55 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:43 PMit makes me happy to see so many people leveling up and chatting in /LFG. If people are constantly leveling up (quickly I might add) and being social about it to get to Thid
This is a great point. If your thid toon outlevels the RR then you make a new one. This is a good thing in case there are new people around who need someone to level with.
it really depends on how often does that happen. Do you know usual RP/hr numbers in thidranki or how long people play to reach RR3 there?
If there are 3hours of re-leveling every 500hours playtime, then the impact would be neglible imo. If it's 3hours every 30hours playtime, then it would be a huge cut to the levelling population (relatively)
Wed 21 Aug 2019 4:27 PM
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florin
I’m all for reducing the rank cap as well. To be honest for me personally it would be the only rvr I would do. It wouldn’t affect big boy rvr cause my rank 9 necro is likely to be a farmer now. So while I understand your point, the reality is...do we have one more or one less person logging in?
Wed 21 Aug 2019 5:30 PM
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Sepplord
If there was a definite answer to that i am sure the devs would be the first to jump up and pour in hours to make changes happen that result in+1 instead of -1...
but just because you are hinting at being a -1 there is no way to know how many others are currently +1 because of the current solution
is levelling another toon to 24 (which takes just a few hours) every couple of months/weeks really that much of a burden to quit over?
Wed 21 Aug 2019 5:49 PM
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Pops999
Florin's right. Anything to retain population should be on the table. It's not like a new classic game starts in less than a week or Live trying to restart their pop. You may like your little private fiefdom with a few hundred playing, but I don't.
Wed 21 Aug 2019 5:52 PM
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florin
Sepplord wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 5:30 PM
If there was a definite answer to that i am sure the devs would be the first to jump up and pour in hours to make changes happen that result in+1 instead of -1...
but just because you are hinting at being a -1 there is no way to know how many others are currently +1 because of the current solution
is levelling another toon to 24 (which takes just a few hours) every couple of months/weeks really that much of a burden to quit over?
well i wouldn't say its the reason i would be quitting, - ive become become sub casual at this point...but it would be a hook to stay or log in occasionally.
Wed 21 Aug 2019 6:27 PM
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gotwqqd
Yeschryso wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:55 PMCadebrennus wrote: ↑Wed 21 Aug 2019 3:43 PMit makes me happy to see so many people leveling up and chatting in /LFG. If people are constantly leveling up (quickly I might add) and being social about it to get to Thid
This is a great point. If your thid toon outlevels the RR then you make a new one. This is a good thing in case there are new people around who need someone to level with.
Except the RR limit is too high and makes it unenjoyable for most players. I believe the population would be greater there if RR was lowered. Right now you have too many high(relatively) RR there
Wed 21 Aug 2019 9:34 PM
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Jatar
IMO the simplest fix for Thid would be dropping the cap from 3L0 to somewhere around 2L0 or lower. A group of level 20's pretty much gets wiped out by a temped 2L5+ of a certain class and skills, just an example not meant as a literal fact. That might be fun for that solo person, but the lvl 20's simply leave and I don't blame them.
It might also be a good idea to have gear wear out much, much faster and/or maybe further restrict bonuses from gear while playing in Thid. It only takes a few hours, if that, to make a new lvl 24 and then just swap gear. A new player with junk gear, especially a lvl 20, barely stands a chance against a great number of veteran Thid players on a brand new lvl 24 with transferred gear and fully potted.
Those are my main thoughts on Thid. Many probably don't agree, but wouldn't it be dull if we all thought just alike?
It might also be a good idea to have gear wear out much, much faster and/or maybe further restrict bonuses from gear while playing in Thid. It only takes a few hours, if that, to make a new lvl 24 and then just swap gear. A new player with junk gear, especially a lvl 20, barely stands a chance against a great number of veteran Thid players on a brand new lvl 24 with transferred gear and fully potted.
Those are my main thoughts on Thid. Many probably don't agree, but wouldn't it be dull if we all thought just alike?
Thu 22 Aug 2019 1:05 AM
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gotwqqd
They could have limits on gear bonuses when into drank
Thu 22 Aug 2019 1:40 AM
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ExcretusMaximus
Delete all battlegrounds.
Delete all stealth classes.
Lose 200 players, improve the server 5000%.
Delete all stealth classes.
Lose 200 players, improve the server 5000%.
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