@ Alb / Mid stealthers

Started 29 Jul 2019
by Ibs
in RvR
Pox here, any stealthers wanna 1v1 me? Trying to find good fights all night and keep getting steam rolled, or added. I'm ibs/int/pox in phoenix discord feel free to PM.
Mon 29 Jul 2019 6:17 PM by Sleepwell
The first rule of fight club,
1. We dont talk about arranged, setup, pre-scripted fights in fight club.
Mon 29 Jul 2019 10:44 PM by Ibs
Sleepwell wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 6:17 PM
The first rule of fight club,
1. We dont talk about arranged, setup, pre-scripted fights in fight club.

I assume you're joking, but in case you're serious I don't see how this is any different than 8v8 setting up fights in discord or twitch. "We're at maze" "k we inc"
Mon 29 Jul 2019 10:56 PM by bm01
We just don't publicly talk about it, because it's against the rules.
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:05 PM by Irkeno
There is no fight club.

There is no disc.

There is no spoon.

There ARE frozen hot dogs in my butt.
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:24 PM by Ibs
bm01 wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 10:56 PM
We just don't publicly talk about it, because it's against the rules.

Is it against the rules? If we're both fighting to the best of our ability and not just farming one another I don't see how it's different than philosopher Kings telling other set 8v8s in their twitch to meet them somewhere specific and "they'll see them there". Pretty obvious fight setup that the world can see by going and viewing their twitch videos and reading their chat.

I'm just a little sick of getting steam rolled, shat on, sliced and diced by a fg of rr10s adding my 1v1. Seems like I wouldn't even be worth their time/speed break, but wouldn't you know it, their dps trains me hard and even when I vanish a few will pop stealth lore pots to desperately grope around to find me.. it feels like the new England Patriots starter line up went up against the MVP of a junior league flag football team and the Patriots are playing like it's the Superbowl.




Edit:
Irkeno wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:05 PM
There is no fight club.

There is no disc.

There is no spoon.

There are frozen hot dogs in my butt.

Where dat inf at?
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:28 PM by Taniquetil
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 5:37 AM
Pox here, any stealthers wanna 1v1 me? Trying to find good fights all night and keep getting steam rolled, or added. I'm ibs/int/pox in phoenix discord feel free to PM.

Rethink where you are hunting
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:29 PM by Tarticus74
EU prime time is rough with adds and zergs.

Just need to kill fast and get out of there but if anyone wants fights and I'm on hit me up on discord.

I'm always solo anyway
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:36 PM by Ibs
Taniquetil wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:28 PM
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 5:37 AM
Pox here, any stealthers wanna 1v1 me? Trying to find good fights all night and keep getting steam rolled, or added. I'm ibs/int/pox in phoenix discord feel free to PM.

Rethink where you are hunting

Will try, but docks, Bridges and all avenues of concentration and interest will have 5 sbs camping with a Thane satelliting, or the joyous minst 2 scouts and an inf.. so many possibilities on how I choose to die.

I know it's bitch and moany but it's a little frustrating to see custom slash commands catering to quick setups for 8v8s, ample discord team fight setups or previously mentioned twitch stream setups. Then as a soloer when I want a piece of the pie I'm told "get gud" "think about where you camp"and "don't mention setup fights here".
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:40 PM by florin
Don’t forget those damnable necros
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:41 PM by Taniquetil
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:36 PM
Taniquetil wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:28 PM
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 5:37 AM
Pox here, any stealthers wanna 1v1 me? Trying to find good fights all night and keep getting steam rolled, or added. I'm ibs/int/pox in phoenix discord feel free to PM.

Rethink where you are hunting

Will try, but docks, Bridges and all avenues of concentration and interest will have 5 sbs camping with a Thane satelliting, or the joyous minst 2 scouts and an inf.. so many possibilities on how I choose to die.

I know it's bitch and moany but it's a little frustrating to see custom slash commands catering to quick setups for 8v8s, ample discord team fight setups or previously mentioned twitch stream setups. Then as a soloer when I want a piece of the pie I'm told "get gud" "think about where you camp"and "don't mention setup fights here".

Im saying this as a solo shade. There are places you can find. Look for traffic routes.....not around dc bled or be o, look where zergs go, go to less obvious spots. Lure people out, watch movement patterns and find a time to jump one and run. Or be prepared for 2 and use a crippling poison or otherwise to escape a second.

Thats part of the stealth fun, dont just expect beno bridge to not have 10 adds. Yep, its annoying, i rage at it too, coast guarding sucks and is incredibly weird to watch as a strategy for many people, but there are ways around it, just requires you to think and be patient (kinda like an assassin)
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:50 PM by Ibs
Taniquetil wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:41 PM
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:36 PM
Taniquetil wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:28 PM
Rethink where you are hunting

Will try, but docks, Bridges and all avenues of concentration and interest will have 5 sbs camping with a Thane satelliting, or the joyous minst 2 scouts and an inf.. so many possibilities on how I choose to die.

I know it's bitch and moany but it's a little frustrating to see custom slash commands catering to quick setups for 8v8s, ample discord team fight setups or previously mentioned twitch stream setups. Then as a soloer when I want a piece of the pie I'm told "get gud" "think about where you camp"and "don't mention setup fights here".

Im saying this as a solo shade. There are places you can find. Look for traffic routes.....not around dc bled or be o, look where zergs go, go to less obvious spots. Lure people out, watch movement patterns and find a time to jump one and run. Or be prepared for 2 and use a crippling poison or otherwise to escape a second.

Thats part of the stealth fun, dont just expect beno bridge to not have 10 adds. Yep, its annoying, i rage at it too, coast guarding sucks and is incredibly weird to watch as a strategy for many people, but there are ways around it, just requires you to think and be patient (kinda like an assassin)
Reread what you just wrote, look how many hoops we have to jump through for not even a fair fight, but a better chance at one.
My original point in this thread was to find 1v1 secluded duels. I appreciate the advice. Not really what I was discussing though.
My main point after being addressed that what I'm doing is against the rules is that 8v8s do this with impunity and I should be able to do it as well. If I have the opportunity to meet someone somewhere and fight just them vs running around with my cock in my hands waiting for the Stars to align to get one single fight worth 800 rps I'm taking it, and I bet you would too.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:01 AM by Numatic
Iirc unless the devs have recanted, setting up duels is perfectly fine(I swear I remember seeing this stated multiple times by devs in discord). So long as it doesnt appear to be RP farming since its considered a form of crossrealming.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:08 AM by vxr
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:36 PM
Taniquetil wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:28 PM
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 5:37 AM
Pox here, any stealthers wanna 1v1 me? Trying to find good fights all night and keep getting steam rolled, or added. I'm ibs/int/pox in phoenix discord feel free to PM.

Rethink where you are hunting

Will try, but docks, Bridges and all avenues of concentration and interest will have 5 sbs camping with a Thane satelliting, or the joyous minst 2 scouts and an inf.. so many possibilities on how I choose to die.

I know it's bitch and moany but it's a little frustrating to see custom slash commands catering to quick setups for 8v8s, ample discord team fight setups or previously mentioned twitch stream setups. Then as a soloer when I want a piece of the pie I'm told "get gud" "think about where you camp"and "don't mention setup fights here".

They said that they have something in store for soloers coming out sometime this week.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:10 AM by vxr
Numatic wrote:
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:01 AM
Iirc unless the devs have recanted, setting up duels is perfectly fine(I swear I remember seeing this stated multiple times by devs in discord). So long as it doesnt appear to be RP farming since its considered a form of crossrealming.

Ya I never heard that setting up fights is against the rules.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:13 AM by Ibs
Numatic wrote:
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:01 AM
Iirc unless the devs have recanted, setting up duels is perfectly fine(I swear I remember seeing this stated multiple times by devs in discord). So long as it doesnt appear to be RP farming since its considered a form of crossrealming.

Agreed, it has to be allowed otherwise we'd see a clog of posts in the ban forum about it. It's so obvious that 8v8s do it, and I'm not against that. I used to 8v8 and hated roaming around endlessly.

vxr wrote: They said that they have something in store for soloers coming out sometime this week.


Thank the nine divines.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:13 AM by Freedomcall
Clockwork 2019.03.23.
"I'm not against the desire to test
but ya can't be setting up x-realm duels."

This is what clockwork said on discord =P
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:13 AM by Irkeno
Taniquetil wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:41 PM
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:36 PM
Taniquetil wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:28 PM
Rethink where you are hunting

Will try, but docks, Bridges and all avenues of concentration and interest will have 5 sbs camping with a Thane satelliting, or the joyous minst 2 scouts and an inf.. so many possibilities on how I choose to die.

I know it's bitch and moany but it's a little frustrating to see custom slash commands catering to quick setups for 8v8s, ample discord team fight setups or previously mentioned twitch stream setups. Then as a soloer when I want a piece of the pie I'm told "get gud" "think about where you camp"and "don't mention setup fights here".

Im saying this as a solo shade. There are places you can find. Look for traffic routes.....not around dc bled or be o, look where zergs go, go to less obvious spots. Lure people out, watch movement patterns and find a time to jump one and run. Or be prepared for 2 and use a crippling poison or otherwise to escape a second.

Thats part of the stealth fun, dont just expect beno bridge to not have 10 adds. Yep, its annoying, i rage at it too, coast guarding sucks and is incredibly weird to watch as a strategy for many people, but there are ways around it, just requires you to think and be patient (kinda like an assassin)

Tani speaks the truth. I won't even fuck with a bridge or dock to a primary port (ie DC,Bled) without vanish up. You honestly just have to be creative, patient, and make friends as you struggle along. Keep soloing, keep respecting 1v1.. people will notice, and they will message you.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:36 AM by Ibs
Irkeno wrote:
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:13 AM
Taniquetil wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:41 PM
Ibs wrote:
Mon 29 Jul 2019 11:36 PM
Will try, but docks, Bridges and all avenues of concentration and interest will have 5 sbs camping with a Thane satelliting, or the joyous minst 2 scouts and an inf.. so many possibilities on how I choose to die.

I know it's bitch and moany but it's a little frustrating to see custom slash commands catering to quick setups for 8v8s, ample discord team fight setups or previously mentioned twitch stream setups. Then as a soloer when I want a piece of the pie I'm told "get gud" "think about where you camp"and "don't mention setup fights here".

Im saying this as a solo shade. There are places you can find. Look for traffic routes.....not around dc bled or be o, look where zergs go, go to less obvious spots. Lure people out, watch movement patterns and find a time to jump one and run. Or be prepared for 2 and use a crippling poison or otherwise to escape a second.

Thats part of the stealth fun, dont just expect beno bridge to not have 10 adds. Yep, its annoying, i rage at it too, coast guarding sucks and is incredibly weird to watch as a strategy for many people, but there are ways around it, just requires you to think and be patient (kinda like an assassin)

Tani speaks the truth. I won't even fuck with a bridge or dock to a primary port (ie DC,Bled) without vanish up. You honestly just have to be creative, patient, and make friends as you struggle along. Keep soloing, keep respecting 1v1.. people will notice, and they will message you.

I've been doing all of what you speak about all the way to 7L8 and no PM's or notice. I'm no where near the best shade and I'm somewhat introverted hence the stealther class and solo. Not great at making friends due to sporadic play time and all I want is a duel. By your "make friends and they'll pm you" you seemingly admit that you setup duels with friends. That's what I'm trying to do in this thread.

Freedomcall wrote:
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:13 AM
Clockwork 2019.03.23.
"I'm not against the desire to test
but ya can't be setting up x-realm duels."

This is what clockwork said on discord =P

Well I'd appreciate an admin addressing this, because if not allowed, nearly every Elite 8v8 that fights each other consistently is in violation of the rules. It's silly imo to think this way, but it's a great way to drive away the pesky solo stealthers I suppose.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 6:31 AM by Turano
vxr wrote:
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:08 AM
They said that they have something in store for soloers coming out sometime this week.
If it is another great idea like the one with the serverwide broardcasted soloer bonus rp zones then they can keep it.
The moment they announced this idea I said it was a stupid idea and that groups would go there to farm the soloers. Oh how much I was flamed for my negativity and that I should appreciate what the devs had done. And how it all went exactly the way I predicted.

I don't think it is even possible to incentivize a dedicated soloer zone by the devs because as soon as everyone knows about it there will be no soloers zone any more. And you cannot punish groups for farming the soloers there either. That's part of the game
Tue 30 Jul 2019 7:02 AM by Taniquetil
Turano wrote: I don't think it is even possible to incentivize a dedicated soloer zone by the devs because as soon as everyone knows about it there will be no soloers zone any more. And you cannot punish groups for farming the soloers there either. That's part of the game

Well live gave a punishment if you farmed solos in the solo zone. However, ON the way to the solo zone... no problem, so a bit of a gauntlet, but an option nonetheless.

Plus i'd rather the devs tried things and occasionally had them miss the mark than rarely did anything.

Ibs wrote: I've been doing all of what you speak about all the way to 7L8 and no PM's or notice.


Respect, its tough but have a think about it and see if theres anything you'd change.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:48 PM by vxr
Turano wrote:
Tue 30 Jul 2019 6:31 AM
vxr wrote:
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:08 AM
They said that they have something in store for soloers coming out sometime this week.
If it is another great idea like the one with the serverwide broardcasted soloer bonus rp zones then they can keep it.
The moment they announced this idea I said it was a stupid idea and that groups would go there to farm the soloers. Oh how much I was flamed for my negativity and that I should appreciate what the devs had done. And how it all went exactly the way I predicted.

I don't think it is even possible to incentivize a dedicated soloer zone by the devs because as soon as everyone knows about it there will be no soloers zone any more. And you cannot punish groups for farming the soloers there either. That's part of the game



Hey, here is the thread regarding the solo incentive: https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=10552

I will quote gruenesschaf bellow, I am not exactly sure where the structures they are talking about. I hope they are more out of the way then the ruins. It sounds at least a little bit better than the previous solo implementation:



We were kind of hoping that the small bonus at those places might already be enough, however, it apparently is not. For that reason we're going to rework it. Depending on feedback a change should happen in the next week.

The current proposal would be as follows:
We're going to use the weird structures / keeps in emain / hw / og as the solo areas, going there will allow you to teleport to any of the other 2 solo areas, dieing in any of the solo areas will allow you to teleport to any one of them after releasing, just like the EV teleport.
The teleport from one solo area to another or from your relic town to any of these areas will have a 1 minute after combat or release cooldown, as well as an additional 2 minute cooldown after the last teleport as well as an enemy vicinity check.

For small man (up to 4 people) it will work exactly the same with the mazes: go to any of the mazes and be able to teleport to any of the other two, die in one of them and be able to teleport to any of them via the teleporter in your relic town.
The teleport from one maze to another or from your relic town to any of these areas will have a 1 minute after combat or release cooldown, as well as an additional 2 minute cooldown after the last teleport as well as an enemy vicinity check.

The teleport points will be randomized, for the mazes if the group leader selects a destination all nearby group members are teleported to the same spot.

The current 10% bonus will be removed, mob placement near those areas will be adjusted.

Joining a group will lock you out of the solo area teleport for 10 minutes starting once you leave the group. Entering any of the solo areas will lock you out of the small man / maze teleport for 10 minutes. Being in a group of 5 or more people will lock you out of the small man area teleport for 10 minutes starting once the group size returns to 4 again / you leave the group.
Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:51 PM by vxr
Taniquetil wrote:
Tue 30 Jul 2019 7:02 AM
Plus i'd rather the devs tried things and occasionally had them miss the mark than rarely did anything.

This.
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