Dynamic keep lord possibility - Phoenix Freeshard

We notice that NA prime time has a growing population imbalance and it creates an issue with keep/tower takes. At its core towers and keeps are balanced around 50-100 person raids. However, atleast during NA time hibs virtually never see more than 3 groups to try keeps, while mids still have 50-100 man bgs. This made it impossible for us to even take towers because with insta ports the mid bg can respond faster than we can kill a lord. Towers are suppose to be quicker, and are for large numbers. In NA time a tower can take 15+ minutes.

Possible solution

So theres already a rating scale that grants lower pop realms an rp bonus. What if that same bonus reduced the HP pool of keep and tower lords? I regularly see 30% bonuses and if that meant 30% less hp for lords, it could open up more possibilities for strategic hits to cut ports when were outnumbered.

Sat 15 Jun 2019 3:25 AM by Boltman

I'll go one step further. Everyone is complaining about zergs. I think they exist because all of the keeps and towers are way too hard to take in the first place. If you didn't need 75 people to take a keep, I dont think you would end up with this zerginess. Keep lords should take 1-2 groups and doors about 5-10 mins with a full ram. Only one ram allowed on a door. Towers should be the same for 4-8 players. It would open the game wide open if we had NF with all of the towers and smaller groups taking/lighting them up around the map.

Oh, PS... Yes to NF please, it's been a blast!

Sat 15 Jun 2019 6:04 AM by Kampfar

Ppl zerg because they zerg. If Lords gettin easier nobody will stop zerging, Lords just die after few secs. The other Server had easy keeps and ppl zerged em too.
Nothing can or will stop ppl from zerging. Same as most solo- or 8v8-player stick to their style. And that is not bad. Every fz is big/small enough to find enemy w your playstyle.

Sat 15 Jun 2019 3:10 PM by Ownnyn

Agreed, this isnt a slight against zergs, but a solution to population imbalances.

Ie, if it were 100v100v100. And one realm ran 100 person zerg, and the other 2 ran 50 person zerg....than its not a population imbalance, even if 1 zerg is twice the size.

But right now were seeing numbers like 160v70v60.

Its not just the zerg size.....the mid bg is often times larger than both realms combined. Were used to seeing "your keep is under attack by 100+" just to /u and see we only have 50 people on total in fz.

And a strat that should be doable, by cutting their port chains to slow them down, isnt bc it takes too long when they can insta port to defend.

Adding a mechanism that gives underpopulated realms a fighting chance should be welcome, as long as it doesnt bring its own imbalances.

Sat 15 Jun 2019 3:46 PM by florin

Agree on auto scaling - even go as far as giving the lords anti Zerg capabilities like the epic mobs.

To make zergs less attractive is a difficult task- zergs are safer and guaranteed action in one way or another. How do you make solo,small man, group more attractive?

Sat 15 Jun 2019 4:19 PM by Turano

thy is everyone trying to dictate people how to play?

Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:22 PM by florin

Turano wrote: ↑
Sat 15 Jun 2019 4:19 PM
thy is everyone trying to dictate people how to play?

Because incentivized zergs kill off all other play styles ?

Sat 15 Jun 2019 8:17 PM by Turano

florin wrote: ↑
Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:22 PM
Turano wrote: ↑
Sat 15 Jun 2019 4:19 PM
thy is everyone trying to dictate people how to play?

Because incentivized zergs kill off all other play styles ?

smallman add and kill me when i'm solo
8 man add and kill me when i'm solo
zergs add and kill me when i'm solo

why would I care what rolls over me?

Sat 15 Jun 2019 9:07 PM by florin

Turano wrote: ↑
Sat 15 Jun 2019 8:17 PM
florin wrote: ↑
Sat 15 Jun 2019 5:22 PM
Turano wrote: ↑
Sat 15 Jun 2019 4:19 PM
thy is everyone trying to dictate people how to play?

Because incentivized zergs kill off all other play styles ?
smallman add and kill me when i'm solo
8 man add and kill me when i'm solo
zergs add and kill me when i'm solo

why would I care what rolls over me?

It’s not about who kills you, it’s about the people who would otherwise go solo/sm/fg who will choose not to cause it’s easy rps in zerg. If I expect to only see zergs then I will join the zerg.

Sat 15 Jun 2019 9:11 PM by Ownnyn

This thread isnt about zergs, but population imbalances. Be respectful for all play styles.