NF NPC Archers - Phoenix Freeshard

their dmg is just too high .... i get hit for 360ish its insane! thats something for relic keeps but not normal ones
plz cut is to maybe 100 or something

Mon 10 Jun 2019 8:45 PM by ExcretusMaximus

Keeps are supposed to be a challenge for groups, don't get in range if you don't have heals.

Mon 10 Jun 2019 8:56 PM by inoeth

ExcretusMaximus wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Jun 2019 8:45 PM
Keeps are supposed to be a challenge for groups, don't get in range if you don't have heals.

ah ok so when you come too close for 2 seconds you have to instantly die like on a porter keep? sry dude this is stupid and normal keepguards have never done so much dmg ... also tower gurd archers hit for that much

Mon 10 Jun 2019 11:07 PM by Turano

they also don't seem to have any kind of line of sight check.
They aggro and shoot through walls and will not give up until you get out of range.

Same thing happened in the Molvik event and I put up a thread back then. As you can see, nothing has happened regarding that problems

Mon 10 Jun 2019 11:38 PM by

gruenesschaf

Turano wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Jun 2019 11:07 PM
they also don't seem to have any kind of line of sight check.
They aggro and shoot through walls and will not give up until you get out of range.

Same thing happened in the Molvik event and I put up a thread back then. As you can see, nothing has happened regarding that problems

That is their intended behavior

Tue 11 Jun 2019 8:17 AM by Turano

gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Jun 2019 11:38 PM
That is their intended behavior

wait ..
you're serious?

Tue 11 Jun 2019 9:58 AM by Cadebrennus

gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Jun 2019 11:38 PM
Turano wrote: ↑
Mon 10 Jun 2019 11:07 PM
they also don't seem to have any kind of line of sight check.
They aggro and shoot through walls and will not give up until you get out of range.

Same thing happened in the Molvik event and I put up a thread back then. As you can see, nothing has happened regarding that problems

That is their intended behavior

Seriously? When we were inside of a friendly tower with the gate shut we were still getting shot through walls by NPC Archers who aggroed and ran from the keep to just outside the tower.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 10:28 AM by Druth

Either tone down npc archer damage, or stop them from shooting through walls.

My thane doesn't care much, but it's a nightmare for healers right now.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 1:07 PM by Leith

Well i've got no problem with shooting through walls. But i stand at the inner door and was shot buy 2 archers and didn't even had time to heal myself. Got shot for 300 each. Which is insane combined with the speed the guards respawn.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 4:21 PM by Cadebrennus

Leith wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Jun 2019 1:07 PM
Well i've got no problem with shooting through walls. But i stand at the inner door and was shot buy 2 archers and didn't even had time to heal myself. Got shot for 300 each. Which is insane combined with the speed the guards respawn.

Current NF guard spawn speed:
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Tue 11 Jun 2019 4:40 PM by inoeth

Cadebrennus wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Jun 2019 4:21 PM
Leith wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Jun 2019 1:07 PM
Well i've got no problem with shooting through walls. But i stand at the inner door and was shot buy 2 archers and didn't even had time to heal myself. Got shot for 300 each. Which is insane combined with the speed the guards respawn.

Current NF guard spawn speed:
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dude where do you have all these gifs from? lol

Thu 13 Jun 2019 12:21 AM by Soukou

1 grp plus guards can wipe 4 groups attempting a keep once inside inner door.

I'll vote of for that reason alone. This just isn't fun.

Thu 13 Jun 2019 6:42 AM by inoeth

getting near a normal keep or even a tower is like getting near teleportkeeps, 3 archers can kill you with just one shot

Thu 13 Jun 2019 7:26 AM by Druth

When near a keep I feel like I'm being hit by UAV's.

Thu 13 Jun 2019 8:17 AM by inoeth

Druth wrote: ↑
Thu 13 Jun 2019 7:26 AM
When near a keep I feel like I'm being hit by UAV's.

xD that quite describes it very well

Thu 13 Jun 2019 9:37 AM by pax

I think that arrows piercing stones isn't RPG and break the atmosphere, feeling like a glitch. Then if is near impossible to fix i will cohabit with this and other things..

Thu 13 Jun 2019 9:40 AM by stinsfire

pax wrote: ↑
Thu 13 Jun 2019 9:37 AM
I think that arrows piercing stones isn't RPG and break the atmosphere, feeling like a glitch. Then if is near impossible to fix i will cohabit with this and other things..

Is it like this on live too? I never played NF live so I have no clue if archers are also hitting you through walls on the official servers?

Thu 13 Jun 2019 12:59 PM by Turano

I walked into a tower and up to the lord that an allied group was just attacking. On the wall stood a single respawned and unaggroed orange archer. Well he aggroed on me apparently, the first arrow hit me for 400 damage on the stairway to first floor, the second on the way to second floor. The third i evaded, the next three sadly not. A heal pot did only delay the enevitable and I lay dead to the feet of the lord with 5 arrows stuck in my corpse that phased through the tower walls and nothing i could have done to prevent this other than staying away from the tower in the first place.

This is how every NF keep or tower encounter worked out for me so far, starting with the molvik event.

FIX IT PLEASE THIS CANNOT BE YOUR INTENTION! ! !

Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:03 PM by ESR211

Guards should be hitting people for 50 out of keeps, not 350.

They should be a dangerous interrupt, not ending stealther's lives.

Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:20 PM by cere2

stinsfire wrote: ↑
Thu 13 Jun 2019 9:40 AM
pax wrote: ↑
Thu 13 Jun 2019 9:37 AM
I think that arrows piercing stones isn't RPG and break the atmosphere, feeling like a glitch. Then if is near impossible to fix i will cohabit with this and other things..

Is it like this on live too? I never played NF live so I have no clue if archers are also hitting you through walls on the official servers?

Not at all, on Inf on Live I can maybe die if I get aggro by say 10 guards and cant climb up a wall or get stealthed after attacking etc, but that's rare.
They kinda? shoot through walls, but not like it is here, and there its about 5% of your HP per archer that hits you. Here I had to use potion/legion/IP just to make it from top of tower that alb owned to keep that we owned, and still almost died.
Guards are definitely OP here but that's something I think they can spend time on if we decide to go with NF on the vote.

Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:39 PM by Turano

cere2 wrote: ↑
Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:20 PM
I think they can spend time on if we decide to go with NF on the vote.

This is a thing that should have priority NOW when we are testing it. Keep raids are THE main feature of NF and if they want more vote pro NF they should fix that instantly

Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:40 PM by cere2

Turano wrote: ↑
Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:39 PM
cere2 wrote: ↑
Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:20 PM
I think they can spend time on if we decide to go with NF on the vote.
This is a thing that should have priority NOW when we are testing it. Keep raids are THE main feature of NF and if they want more vote pro NF they should fix that instantly

Good point.