Help with NF - Phoenix Freeshard

I am trying not to rant here as I understand change happens in life. I also get that a lot of people love NF so im trying not to hate to much but I quit this game back in the day because of NF (well TOA started the downfall NF killed it for me.)

That being said I cannot tell you how sad I was to login today and see NF. I hear talk of it but didn't know it was actually coming and this soon.

I am hoping that someone can explain how the hell I can solo as a visible in NF. I would rather not throw away my 33 days played just because of NF but I have played now for 2 hours and have found one person, ran over 15 times, and had two trips where I ran around for 25 minutes without finding someone.

There are no longer any direct flow of traffics that I can see to look for action and it seems to be over populated areas or random people roaming lost lol

I am going to read the NF thread and hope to get some insight but it was a very frustrating day for me so far.

Thanks

Tue 11 Jun 2019 2:22 AM by Rhox

Also just read its just a week test so I have stepped back off the ledge a bit ;-)

Tue 11 Jun 2019 6:32 AM by Arthoras

Well i am kind of the same boat like you...

In theory and from the experience on the live servers:
-nf with solo visible is extremly time consuming and most of the time very frustrating. it is like running to emain, the whole evening... because you must go the sideways to prevent groups you have to walk alot
-nf has chokepoints without them clearly are chokepoints - docks, boat endpoints, the last keeps in portchains, bridges... all of this points are the points where you can found solos, but most of the time you found the same people there who were farming solos at the old chokepoints in OF (milegates), so most of the time its better to prevent this points.

the experience from yesterday was that the first half hour was fun... there were not that much people online and on the sidebridge of dc were a lot of solo players. on the main bridge was stealthwar. after the portchain was interrupted there was nothing to do. the milegate gates seems buggy and i can not use them, so i jump over the milegate to some archers that were there to shot at the halflifed people who do the jump. then i tried to port to the only keep that was portable to run to the dock. two options: die to the smallmen grps at the dock, or die to the stealthgrp beetween keep and dock. so i try to walk to the docks in the middle of the frontier. 2 times a fg of albs found and kill me. then i got there... forgot about my experience from live and forgot to jump out of the boat before endpoint - died to 3 stealther. after 7 or 8 deads i logged out.

ya... fun... i hope that it will be better the next days. i can remember that i had fun with nf, but i played stealther at that time. solo stealther was fun. but visible? phew... that will be a hard week.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 9:38 AM by Fooj Fujiyama

Yeah NF is terrible for a solo visible, I hate this already. It's okay in an 8 man but for solo play style its just not good. And no surprise evne less 1 v 1s then before, I really hope this doesn't become permanent tbh, it's not fun.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 10:25 AM by inoeth

i did alot of solo visi in NF ....
you need to find out where ppl coming from... for example: all keeps belong to their original realm; people need to take boats; take boat yourself to enemy realm; learn how to use bridges as a hiding place; move betwene bridge to docks and bridge to ellan vannin; profit.

if enemy realm owns keep in enemy realm: take boat to that keep and camp the highway

there is no significant run around as some ppl claim, you just need to be smart and look what is the current keep situation.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 10:30 AM by Druth

Fooj Fujiyama wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Jun 2019 9:38 AM
Yeah NF is terrible for a solo visible, I hate this already. It's okay in an 8 man but for solo play style its just not good. And no surprise evne less 1 v 1s then before, I really hope this doesn't become permanent tbh, it's not fun.

Which visi do you solo on?

Tue 11 Jun 2019 10:32 AM by Fooj Fujiyama

I play but I play a character that would be semi viable for solo in OF whereas I can't do anything here because you can't even get to the stupid boat without getting zerged. Solo game is dead here now if NF persists. I really really miss OF, 1 night of this was torture.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 10:36 AM by Druth

But which char?

My thane found 2 1v1's last night prime time EU, several fights vs. stealth duos, lots of skirmishes involving several people from all 3 realms.
And obviously a lot of siege zergs.
I ran in a group for 1 hour, but must honestly admit we never found a 8v8 fight, we did manage to locate 70+ albs though

Tue 11 Jun 2019 11:22 AM by Siouxsie

It had been 15 years since I played NF. I had no idea where to go at first.
I duo'd with another hunter and we waited around for what seemed like ages for inc or something, but nothing happened.
We moved on from Crimm watchtower to Crauch.. to find more nothing.. meanwhile, 15 minutes after we left where we were, a hib zerg showed up and took it.

Action's fast but you need to be in the right place at the right time. Most of the time I just saw PilzZerg mindlessly going from tower to tower and I couldn't get into the tower to help defend. All I could do is take pot shots at hibs on the periphery and the run away. Boring.

If I get close to the keep, I get unstealthed by some caster (due to stealth mechanics being so bad, visibles can see you so easily here) pops me and I'm dead in 2 seconds.

Where are these 1v1s or duos? All I saw was 8 mans and zergs.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 5:58 PM by Galandor

Fooj Fujiyama wrote: ↑
Tue 11 Jun 2019 10:32 AM
I play but I play a character that would be semi viable for solo in OF whereas I can't do anything here because you can't even get to the stupid boat without getting zerged. Solo game is dead here now if NF persists. I really really miss OF, 1 night of this was torture.

Guess you don't know you can boat from Bold.

Wed 12 Jun 2019 3:13 PM by Rhox

I just wanted to post a update. I think I got it figured out. I have played NF now for about 5 hours. I have been killed roughly 100 times and I just got my first kill. I think things are getting pretty serious. Thanks NF!

Wed 12 Jun 2019 4:19 PM by Miiro

The game isnt designed for solos, OF or NF.

To be a solo'er is to accept this challenge and over come it. Which is why it carries such respect. To need to dumb down this challenge makes the challenge irrelevant. If you cant solo then maybe you shoild small man or pug. If you dont like to do those and still cant solo.. Well then.. Maybe you just dont make the cut for the solo crowd and thats ok.

But the server shouldnt be balanced around solos.

This is coming from somebody who soloed for years on live back in the day.

Wed 12 Jun 2019 7:26 PM by Fooj Fujiyama

The challenge to solo was perfectly fine in OF, it's absolute garbage in NF.

Sorry I don't like zerging, I think it is boring. 1 v 1 is where it's at and I had it down with OF, you guys just love zerging it's a fact. NF appeals to one type of player, people who like to zerg.

Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:44 PM by Miiro

Solos depend on the zerg scene to be active. If the zerg scene starts to die then the solos have very little action. Just look at live.. Soloing in NF is adapting to the zerg and picking of straggelers.

Adapting is part of the challenge. Sorry you are struggling though.

Sat 15 Jun 2019 4:19 PM by stewbeedoo

Miiro wrote: ↑
Thu 13 Jun 2019 5:44 PM
Solos depend on the zerg scene to be active. If the zerg scene starts to die then the solos have very little action. Just look at live.. Soloing in NF is adapting to the zerg and picking of straggelers.

Adapting is part of the challenge. Sorry you are struggling though.

Absolutely true!

When the zerg runs me over solo it doesn't bother me. I depend on the zerg to create prolonged keep takes so I can camp a spot where folks are running to the battle and try to kill them.

In terms of NF vs OF, I like that NF has gotten all the action out of Emain and I hated trying to get through the milegates in OF solo. But I like OF for the nostalgia and the NF boats are way too slow (easy to fix). Overall, I am ok with either OF or NF.

I think the teleporting has hurt the solo game more than NF vs OF. People are not running around to get where they need to go so there is less targets now.

Sun 16 Jun 2019 5:25 PM by Killaloth

If you constantly look at the map you can kind of figure out where other soloer run. The trick is to get your kill before fgs with speed get you.

Overall bad as moving from A to B takes time.

Also overall bad rps for everyone by looking at the herald, now the rps multiplier has also been fixed so less rps for pvdoor.

What bothers me is that I've lost the bards I used to duo/smallman with and "8man" focus on doors (I play outside EU/US primetime).

Tough times but we are in a democracy, if the majority will vote for NF you always have the option to quit your visible class and roll a stealther or perhaps a bonedancer to duo with the many ranked skalds you have. When life gets too hard is time to relax and switch to easymode lol.

Mon 17 Jun 2019 11:11 PM by Slyver

I really dont understand what ure talking about.
I prefer playing solo/smallman aswell but OF sucks so much for that - run to the milegates and add some zerg v zerg ? hope to get inced by a solo stealther ?

NF got much better spots to fight and its much better for 8v8 because of the environment.
Keeps are finally defendable.
Sure some things need a change compared to the test week, like diving and swimspeed and not every keep should be portable to. Maybe hastener stones for player ? etc.

No hate but could u explain how NF is a problem for u guys ?