You need to roll back rvr task changes.

Sorry but nope.

You need to roll it back.

New players get like 1/2 the rp of the old tasks, you know the ones where people go to rr11?

High rr toons didn't care about tasks and they allowed new players to catch up.

Also, the keep teleport thing? bad idea.

Roll it back

Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:13 PM by Dominus

who is this level 1

Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:15 PM by lurker

gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Thu 30 May 2019 1:34 PM
Cell Maley wrote: ↑
Thu 30 May 2019 1:31 PM
I'm so disappointed of phoenix...

people are now High RR .. ..and now 1000 rps instead of 1500 rps, what that say?... its now longer to upgrade rank

where is the balance? .. i regret now, so many hours to up my chars

You appear to have missed the introduction of a new task that also gives 1000 making this a net total increase of 500.

Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:19 PM by Hejjin

lurker wrote: ↑
Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:15 PM
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Thu 30 May 2019 1:34 PM
Cell Maley wrote: ↑
Thu 30 May 2019 1:31 PM
I'm so disappointed of phoenix...

people are now High RR .. ..and now 1000 rps instead of 1500 rps, what that say?... its now longer to upgrade rank

where is the balance? .. i regret now, so many hours to up my chars

You appear to have missed the introduction of a new task that also gives 1000 making this a net total increase of 500.

Only if you also take part in the keep defence / attack, that can have the same problem as the original RvR system on here, namely reaching the objective to get credit for it.

Relv is correct, the server numbers are in a steep decline.

Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:22 PM by relvinian

You are changing your server to death, dear devs.

You now join the ranks of many other free daoc server devs who have done so.

I always knew arguing with stupid people was pointless.

Thu 6 Jun 2019 4:28 PM by labra

I'm not sure insulting is the right thing to do to open debates

Thu 6 Jun 2019 4:31 PM by relvinian

You are right.

Good luck to all of you.

Thank you to the devs.

Send me an email if u wipe the server and relaunch.

Thu 6 Jun 2019 4:35 PM by florin

This is the most fun I’ve had since launch

Thu 6 Jun 2019 4:47 PM by Pops999

lurker wrote: ↑
Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:15 PM
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Thu 30 May 2019 1:34 PM
Cell Maley wrote: ↑
Thu 30 May 2019 1:31 PM
I'm so disappointed of phoenix...

people are now High RR .. ..and now 1000 rps instead of 1500 rps, what that say?... its now longer to upgrade rank

where is the balance? .. i regret now, so many hours to up my chars

You appear to have missed the introduction of a new task that also gives 1000 making this a net total increase of 500.

Try getting to one of those keeps as a newly minted level 35.

Thu 6 Jun 2019 4:54 PM by Stoertebecker

relvinian wrote: ↑
Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:22 PM
I always knew arguing with stupid people was pointless.

*hint
Never look into a mirror and talk to yourself

You`re basically the king of them....

Thu 6 Jun 2019 8:07 PM by Estat

relvinian wrote: ↑
Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:22 PM
You now join the ranks of many other free daoc server devs who have done so.

You mean the "free daoc server devs" who refuse to make changes? Like you posted two years ago over and over again?

The North remembers you Relvinian!

I always knew arguing with stupid people was pointless.

i know right? And yet sometimes I cant resist reading your posts even though I should know better.

Thu 6 Jun 2019 8:14 PM by chryso

I thought you quit yesterday.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 12:29 PM by Raunz

Said it after first month reset all ranks and remove all tasks and lower rp gain. Again I was correct.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 1:00 PM by Roto23

relvinian wrote: ↑
Thu 6 Jun 2019 4:31 PM
You are right.

Good luck to all of you.

Thank you to the devs.

Send me an email if u wipe the server and relaunch.

Can I have your stuff?

Fri 7 Jun 2019 3:26 PM by relvinian

BTW, i love how people are jumping all over me.

Have you noticed any population trends?

New Frontiers coming next? I guess it may be something devs are forced in to?

I like the devs and i appreciate them. But if everyone is agreeing, then someone isn't thinking.

And you fine folks who pile on me, here, and all your cry more newb crap, its amusing.

I have always been in it for what is best for the server. I just got a little bored playing my necro. I accomplished my goals.

I have always been the same person, the type that tries to look at the big picture.

BTW big picture in daoc is always about leveling, making alts, and getting new blood in. Server population is a balancing act.

I'm pretty much a fool but I sure as hell am not stupid and most of the daoc players aren't either.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 4:51 PM by Hejjin

relvinian wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 3:26 PM
BTW, i love how people are jumping all over me.

Have you noticed any population trends?

New Frontiers coming next? I guess it may be something devs are forced in to?

I like the devs and i appreciate them. But if everyone is agreeing, then someone isn't thinking.

And you fine folks who pile on me, here, and all your cry more newb crap, its amusing.

I have always been in it for what is best for the server. I just got a little bored playing my necro. I accomplished my goals.

I have always been the same person, the type that tries to look at the big picture.

BTW big picture in daoc is always about leveling, making alts, and getting new blood in. Server population is a balancing act.

I'm pretty much a fool but I sure as hell am not stupid and most of the daoc players aren't either.

During the hours I play, the numbers are significantly down against the same period last week, let alone any of the previous weeks/months going back to launch. There was a steep drop in numbers this week after the NF test week was announced, every change they make seems to accelerate the population drop. I have enjoyed playing on Phoenix, but there have simply been too many changes, and every change seems like a knee-jerk over-reaction to perceived issues.

At the current rate, the server will be dead before Classic WoW launches, which is a real shame given how much time and effort the dev's have put in to the server.

Take Care Relv

Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:22 PM by Hector

I know the devs are excellent at the technical aspect of what they do, there is no denying it.

But it feels like one dev comes up with an idea and everybody sitting at the table impulsively goes “fuck it, let’s do it.” This is true going back to the decision to abandon OF RAs within weeks of launch.

I fear the community has lost sight of what made this server great to begin with. We need to get back to that before it’s too late. God I feel like I’m talking to Uthgard right now

Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:28 PM by lurker

To be fair... none of the changes seem to have accelerated the decline. They have not slowed it, that’s true. But no evidence for an acceleration.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:34 PM by florin

Here’s a clear example of player playstyle bias that underpins your feedback. You spent 4 months begging people to defend keeps so that you could get to RR10 spamming pbaoe dot, then you delete and roll a skald or whatever and the new keep centered tasks are no longer good for you and killing their game. This is why we can’t have nice things cause loud and persistent whining about tasks/realm timers/ra’s that are so self centered.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:35 PM by Hejjin

lurker wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:28 PM
To be fair... none of the changes seem to have accelerated the decline. They have not slowed it, that’s true. But no evidence for an acceleration.

Really? We are down several hundred people from before the NF test was announced, and during Euro day time we are at approximately half the numbers we had at the start of last week for the same time periods...

Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:36 PM by florin

Hejjin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:35 PM
lurker wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:28 PM
To be fair... none of the changes seem to have accelerated the decline. They have not slowed it, that’s true. But no evidence for an acceleration.
Really? We are down several hundred people from before the NF test was announced, and during Euro day time we are at approximately half the numbers we had at the start of last week for the same time periods...

He wants you to draw him a graph

Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:36 PM by lurker

Hejjin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:35 PM
Really? We are down several hundred people from before the NF test was announced, and during Euro day time we are at approximately half the numbers we had at the start of last week for the same time periods...

No.... we are not.

https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html

In fact if you look at the bottom chart since they announce NF test a couple of days ago there has been a slight growth based on last weeks numbers. Probably not related. But still.

I think people expect too much to be fair there was no way the server would ever retain 3k population as we saw at launch. Does t mean I don’t think things could be done differently but I still think we would be at a similar position in reality.

You literally can’t please all the people in this game where so many people have competing priorities. The best you can hope for is to please the broadest possible range of people.

I think the sustainable population for a daoc freeshard is somewhere in the 500-1000 player range but that’s a total guess.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:48 PM by Hejjin

lurker wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:36 PM
Hejjin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:35 PM
Really? We are down several hundred people from before the NF test was announced, and during Euro day time we are at approximately half the numbers we had at the start of last week for the same time periods...

No.... we are not.

https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html

In fact if you look at the bottom chart since they announce NF test a couple of days ago there has been a slight growth based on last weeks numbers. Probably not related. But still.

I think people expect too much to be fair there was no way the server would ever retain 3k population as we saw at launch. Does t mean I don’t think things could be done differently but I still think we would be at a similar position in reality.

You literally can’t please all the people in this game where so many people have competing priorities. The best you can hope for is to please the broadest possible range of people.

I think the sustainable population for a daoc freeshard is somewhere in the 500-1000 player range but that’s a total guess.

Hmmm Rather strange, when I do /serverinfo in game, I see a massive reduction in players, my playing time is consistent, so nothing has altered there. When I am running around the same zones as I normally do, I see fewer people. The peak population is after I log off for the day, so I rarely see those numbers.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 6:48 PM by relvinian

florin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:34 PM
Here’s a clear example of player playstyle bias that underpins your feedback. You spent 4 months begging people to defend keeps so that you could get to RR10 spamming pbaoe dot, then you delete and roll a skald or whatever and the new keep centered tasks are no longer good for you and killing their game. This is why we can’t have nice things cause loud and persistent whining about tasks/realm timers/ra’s that are so self centered.

Yeah i got to rr 10 in a few months. I accomplished my goals. So i got bored and tried something else. I did beta testing. I went to other realms and rolled alts and saw what it was like first hand. Then i come here, tell people what i see, give my opinions, and get eviscerated.

I find it hard to get groups. Say something. People tell me to stop crying.

I reflect upon the fact that u would get 3-4k for rps just for tasking and now its less than 2k

I reflect on the fact that you could task to 50 but now need to be 35.

I reflect on how it used to be that lowbies could kill a 50 and get 2-3 levels at a time. I got a db this morning on a 50 at 13, i got nothing,. Not even a full realm point. No xp to speak of. was 1L1 and after was 1L1. I got like no xp from that.

Change after change after change.

And some people are rr 11L3! The achieved those ranks experiencing greater rps rate and now new players have a lower rate of rp gain.

I don't mind not being rr 10 anymore, easily could have got to 11, nothing stopping me except my not caring to continue.

I wanted to see how things are for new players and lower levels and alts. Guess what? population is tied to how things are for those folks.

BTW, your entire argument is just stupid. Player bias. Keeps get better to i quit playing my great keep defense toon. Keeps get better so i make a skald, u don't know what if anything I'm playing. Again, just stupid.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:01 PM by Estat

relvinian wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 6:48 PM
Then i come here, tell people what i see, give my opinions, and get eviscerated.

Dont worry. Give it a couple more months and you and Raunz will just be tears in an ocean of nerds raging against the devs. And the waves will forever scream: "Do as I say or the server dies!"

Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:25 PM by florin

relvinian wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 6:48 PM
florin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:34 PM
Here’s a clear example of player playstyle bias that underpins your feedback. You spent 4 months begging people to defend keeps so that you could get to RR10 spamming pbaoe dot, then you delete and roll a skald or whatever and the new keep centered tasks are no longer good for you and killing their game. This is why we can’t have nice things cause loud and persistent whining about tasks/realm timers/ra’s that are so self centered.

Yeah i got to rr 10 in a few months. I accomplished my goals. So i got bored and tried something else. I did beta testing. I went to other realms and rolled alts and saw what it was like first hand. Then i come here, tell people what i see, give my opinions, and get eviscerated.

I find it hard to get groups. Say something. People tell me to stop crying.

I reflect upon the fact that u would get 3-4k for rps just for tasking and now its less than 2k

I reflect on the fact that you could task to 50 but now need to be 35.

I reflect on how it used to be that lowbies could kill a 50 and get 2-3 levels at a time. I got a db this morning on a 50 at 13, i got nothing,. Not even a full realm point. No xp to speak of. was 1L1 and after was 1L1. I got like no xp from that.

Change after change after change.

And some people are rr 11L3! The achieved those ranks experiencing greater rps rate and now new players have a lower rate of rp gain.

I don't mind not being rr 10 anymore, easily could have got to 11, nothing stopping me except my not caring to continue.

I wanted to see how things are for new players and lower levels and alts. Guess what? population is tied to how things are for those folks.

BTW, your entire argument is just stupid. Player bias. Keeps get better to i quit playing my great keep defense toon. Keeps get better so i make a skald, u don't know what if anything I'm playing. Again, just stupid.

I’m inclined to think you are so emotionally unstable that you rage quit and deleted only to wake up to find your wet dream is now your nightmare. Please take a permanent break.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:35 PM by relvinian

Estat wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:01 PM
relvinian wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 6:48 PM
Then i come here, tell people what i see, give my opinions, and get eviscerated.

Dont worry. Give it a couple more months and you and Raunz will just be tears in an ocean of nerds raging against the devs. And the waves will forever scream: "Do as I say or the server dies!"

So to actual arguments or points, you respond with nothing.

What about the rr 11 toons in a few short months and the 1 million feathers at a few short months, and NOW things are nerfed?

Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:36 PM by relvinian

florin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:25 PM
relvinian wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 6:48 PM
florin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 5:34 PM
Here’s a clear example of player playstyle bias that underpins your feedback. You spent 4 months begging people to defend keeps so that you could get to RR10 spamming pbaoe dot, then you delete and roll a skald or whatever and the new keep centered tasks are no longer good for you and killing their game. This is why we can’t have nice things cause loud and persistent whining about tasks/realm timers/ra’s that are so self centered.

Yeah i got to rr 10 in a few months. I accomplished my goals. So i got bored and tried something else. I did beta testing. I went to other realms and rolled alts and saw what it was like first hand. Then i come here, tell people what i see, give my opinions, and get eviscerated.

I find it hard to get groups. Say something. People tell me to stop crying.

I reflect upon the fact that u would get 3-4k for rps just for tasking and now its less than 2k

I reflect on the fact that you could task to 50 but now need to be 35.

I reflect on how it used to be that lowbies could kill a 50 and get 2-3 levels at a time. I got a db this morning on a 50 at 13, i got nothing,. Not even a full realm point. No xp to speak of. was 1L1 and after was 1L1. I got like no xp from that.

Change after change after change.

And some people are rr 11L3! The achieved those ranks experiencing greater rps rate and now new players have a lower rate of rp gain.

I don't mind not being rr 10 anymore, easily could have got to 11, nothing stopping me except my not caring to continue.

I wanted to see how things are for new players and lower levels and alts. Guess what? population is tied to how things are for those folks.

BTW, your entire argument is just stupid. Player bias. Keeps get better to i quit playing my great keep defense toon. Keeps get better so i make a skald, u don't know what if anything I'm playing. Again, just stupid.

I’m inclined to think you are so emotionally unstable that you rage quit and deleted only to wake up to find your wet dream is now your nightmare. Please take a permanent break.

There could be some truth to that. But you still are just slinging insults and bring ZERO to this discussion.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:37 PM by chryso

So what? Things change. You fix things for the future not for the past.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:48 PM by florin

relvinian wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:36 PM
florin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 7:25 PM
relvinian wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 6:48 PM
Yeah i got to rr 10 in a few months. I accomplished my goals. So i got bored and tried something else. I did beta testing. I went to other realms and rolled alts and saw what it was like first hand. Then i come here, tell people what i see, give my opinions, and get eviscerated.

I find it hard to get groups. Say something. People tell me to stop crying.

I reflect upon the fact that u would get 3-4k for rps just for tasking and now its less than 2k

I reflect on the fact that you could task to 50 but now need to be 35.

I reflect on how it used to be that lowbies could kill a 50 and get 2-3 levels at a time. I got a db this morning on a 50 at 13, i got nothing,. Not even a full realm point. No xp to speak of. was 1L1 and after was 1L1. I got like no xp from that.

Change after change after change.

And some people are rr 11L3! The achieved those ranks experiencing greater rps rate and now new players have a lower rate of rp gain.

I don't mind not being rr 10 anymore, easily could have got to 11, nothing stopping me except my not caring to continue.

I wanted to see how things are for new players and lower levels and alts. Guess what? population is tied to how things are for those folks.

BTW, your entire argument is just stupid. Player bias. Keeps get better to i quit playing my great keep defense toon. Keeps get better so i make a skald, u don't know what if anything I'm playing. Again, just stupid.

I’m inclined to think you are so emotionally unstable that you rage quit and deleted only to wake up to find your wet dream is now your nightmare. Please take a permanent break.

There could be some truth to that. But you still are just slinging insults and bring ZERO to this discussion.

The reason we are in this RR11 situation is due to the welfare rps scheme you’re asking for. Thousands of newbies suiciding themselves like waves on the cliffs - feeding the Zerg and the gank squads cause not only do they have nothing to lose but everything to gain. They’ve gotten so lazy they script their suicides. Even the new keep task is a game of kill the enemy before the guards get them.

All I hear is I don’t want to level, I don’t want to pve , I don’t want to earn my rps but gimme gimme gimme.

This guy i reported today
https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=14&p=69679#p69679

Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:14 PM by Pops999

Those welfare RP's, besides pushing you all to high RR's, kept me in the game. I would never have had the energy to grind them out, RvRing all day long. So when I did PvP I had some RA's under my belt.

Now with the changes, that mechanic has been minimized. Got to be level 35 to "deserve" them. Can't have a gray earning a few RA's to help the level process. Got to earn them in a BG now. A BG that is mostly dead, at a pace that is mostly glacial. All so you level 50's can have a few more measly RP's off of me or populate a BG that only a vocal twinks wanted.

Perfect, fresh blood now starts with far greater hill to climb. Meanwhile, the server bleeds out, the old. Leaving once again, the "elite" wolves with no sheep and the death spiral continues. You didn't see Uthgard pick up any of that bled out population did you? That 4K pop at release, were guys like me giving DAOC one last shot, not you Live and Uthgard diehard vets.

Enjoy your nerfs, you got what you wanted and you got what you deserve.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:27 PM by djegu

Population drop may or may not be the result of changes. In my opinion, pop drop would have happen no matter what, weather change, nostalgia wearing off, are the two main reason why pop drop.

I think nerf and change are annoying but not as much as people like to say on the forum, as it's really easy to reroll another toon to RR5.
On another hand i think stuff like, 12h timer, lack of communication from devs and the player toxicity are the underlying reason why people are leaving (beside what i said above)

Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:33 PM by florin

Pops999 wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:14 PM
Those welfare RP's, besides pushing you all to high RR's, kept me in the game. I would never have had the energy to grind them out, RvRing all day long. So when I did PvP I had some RA's under my belt.

Now with the changes, that mechanic has been minimized. Got to be level 35 to "deserve" them. Can't have a gray earning a few RA's to help the level process. Got to earn them in a BG now. A BG that is mostly dead, at a pace that is mostly glacial. All so you level 50's can have a few more measly RP's off of me or populate a BG that only a vocal twinks wanted.

Perfect, fresh blood now starts with far greater hill to climb. Meanwhile, the server bleeds out, the old. Leaving once again, the "elite" wolves with no sheep and the death spiral continues. You didn't see Uthgard pick up any of that bled out population did you? That 4K pop at release, were guys like me giving DAOC one last shot, not you Live and Uthgard diehard vets.

Enjoy your nerfs, you got what you wanted and you got what you deserve.

My statement was carefully crafted to point out that the rps suiciders and donators are at fault for the inflated ranks. Examples are top sbs and hib gank groups. If you were only kept in game cause you picked off sub 50s in emain as they earned that task suicide credit then you won’t be missed as you were simply exploiting a not fully thought out game mechanic. Getting rps for tasks is cool, getting them by killing suiciders is lame.

Fri 7 Jun 2019 11:43 PM by Wooshh

Lol and i thought that new double task was giving us too many rps. Imho they should nerf tasks, you can just suicide in a keep to accomplish 2 tasks. And, i dont have a statistic about this but i saw an increase in bonus points of every task since the change

Sat 8 Jun 2019 12:18 AM by Pops999

florin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:33 PM
Pops999 wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:14 PM
Those welfare RP's, besides pushing you all to high RR's, kept me in the game. I would never have had the energy to grind them out, RvRing all day long. So when I did PvP I had some RA's under my belt.

Now with the changes, that mechanic has been minimized. Got to be level 35 to "deserve" them. Can't have a gray earning a few RA's to help the level process. Got to earn them in a BG now. A BG that is mostly dead, at a pace that is mostly glacial. All so you level 50's can have a few more measly RP's off of me or populate a BG that only a vocal twinks wanted.

Perfect, fresh blood now starts with far greater hill to climb. Meanwhile, the server bleeds out, the old. Leaving once again, the "elite" wolves with no sheep and the death spiral continues. You didn't see Uthgard pick up any of that bled out population did you? That 4K pop at release, were guys like me giving DAOC one last shot, not you Live and Uthgard diehard vets.

Enjoy your nerfs, you got what you wanted and you got what you deserve.

My statement was carefully crafted to point out that the rps suiciders and donators are at fault for the inflated ranks. Examples are top sbs and hib gank groups. If you were only kept in game cause you picked off sub 50s in emain as they earned that task suicide credit then you won’t be missed as you were simply exploiting a not fully thought out game mechanic. Getting rps for tasks is cool, getting them by killing suiciders is lame.

Kid, I was one of the suiciders. But thanks for the "you won't be missed" comment. That's exactly the attitude that will bring in population. Keep it up.

Sat 8 Jun 2019 12:39 PM by florin

Pops999 wrote: ↑
Sat 8 Jun 2019 12:18 AM
florin wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:33 PM
Pops999 wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:14 PM
Those welfare RP's, besides pushing you all to high RR's, kept me in the game. I would never have had the energy to grind them out, RvRing all day long. So when I did PvP I had some RA's under my belt.

Now with the changes, that mechanic has been minimized. Got to be level 35 to "deserve" them. Can't have a gray earning a few RA's to help the level process. Got to earn them in a BG now. A BG that is mostly dead, at a pace that is mostly glacial. All so you level 50's can have a few more measly RP's off of me or populate a BG that only a vocal twinks wanted.

Perfect, fresh blood now starts with far greater hill to climb. Meanwhile, the server bleeds out, the old. Leaving once again, the "elite" wolves with no sheep and the death spiral continues. You didn't see Uthgard pick up any of that bled out population did you? That 4K pop at release, were guys like me giving DAOC one last shot, not you Live and Uthgard diehard vets.

Enjoy your nerfs, you got what you wanted and you got what you deserve.

My statement was carefully crafted to point out that the rps suiciders and donators are at fault for the inflated ranks. Examples are top sbs and hib gank groups. If you were only kept in game cause you picked off sub 50s in emain as they earned that task suicide credit then you won’t be missed as you were simply exploiting a not fully thought out game mechanic. Getting rps for tasks is cool, getting them by killing suiciders is lame.

Kid, I was one of the suiciders. But thanks for the "you won't be missed" comment. That's exactly the attitude that will bring in population. Keep it up.

Buh bye

Sat 8 Jun 2019 12:59 PM by relvinian

You won't be missed?

Guess that is the dumbest thing i will read today.

Sat 8 Jun 2019 1:45 PM by Pops999

relvinian wrote: ↑
Sat 8 Jun 2019 12:59 PM
You won't be missed?

Guess that is the dumbest thing i will read today.

Give it time, I'm sure Florin will post again.

Sat 8 Jun 2019 1:55 PM by florin

Some will be missed, you however will not.

Believe me.

Sat 8 Jun 2019 11:39 PM by relvinian

Run and attack x.

Die, unable to reach, camped.

How many rps do u get ?

less than 1/2 of the rps that all those players who are CURRENTLY rr 11 received when they were leveling.

Sun 9 Jun 2019 12:49 AM by Stoertebecker

Pops999 wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:14 PM
Those welfare RP's, besides pushing you all to high RR's, kept me in the game. I would never have had the energy to grind them out, RvRing all day long. So when I did PvP I had some RA's under my belt.

Now with the changes, that mechanic has been minimized. Got to be level 35 to "deserve" them. Can't have a gray earning a few RA's to help the level process. Got to earn them in a BG now. A BG that is mostly dead, at a pace that is mostly glacial. All so you level 50's can have a few more measly RP's off of me or populate a BG that only a vocal twinks wanted.

Perfect, fresh blood now starts with far greater hill to climb. Meanwhile, the server bleeds out, the old. Leaving once again, the "elite" wolves with no sheep and the death spiral continues. You didn't see Uthgard pick up any of that bled out population did you? That 4K pop at release, were guys like me giving DAOC one last shot, not you Live and Uthgard diehard vets.

Enjoy your nerfs, you got what you wanted and you got what you deserve.

You don`t need ra`s for leveling. All you need is a power or endu regen pot.

How easy does a game have to be today that ppl don`t cheat the fuck out of it? 24h played 0-50 and you crybabes are still complaing how long it takes.

You`ve never played live back in 2003 or on Uthgard 2 the first half year if you think you have to grind something here on Phoenix.

Sun 9 Jun 2019 9:38 AM by Pops999

Stoertebecker wrote: ↑
Sun 9 Jun 2019 12:49 AM
Pops999 wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:14 PM
Those welfare RP's, besides pushing you all to high RR's, kept me in the game. I would never have had the energy to grind them out, RvRing all day long. So when I did PvP I had some RA's under my belt.

Now with the changes, that mechanic has been minimized. Got to be level 35 to "deserve" them. Can't have a gray earning a few RA's to help the level process. Got to earn them in a BG now. A BG that is mostly dead, at a pace that is mostly glacial. All so you level 50's can have a few more measly RP's off of me or populate a BG that only a vocal twinks wanted.

Perfect, fresh blood now starts with far greater hill to climb. Meanwhile, the server bleeds out, the old. Leaving once again, the "elite" wolves with no sheep and the death spiral continues. You didn't see Uthgard pick up any of that bled out population did you? That 4K pop at release, were guys like me giving DAOC one last shot, not you Live and Uthgard diehard vets.

Enjoy your nerfs, you got what you wanted and you got what you deserve.

You don`t need ra`s for leveling. All you need is a power or endu regen pot.

How easy does a game have to be today that ppl don`t cheat the fuck out of it? 24h played 0-50 and you crybabes are still complaing how long it takes.

You`ve never played live back in 2003 or on Uthgard 2 the first half year if you think you have to grind something here on Phoenix.

At release good enough for you kid? Where leveling was praying for a pixel movement of the xp bar?

Sun 9 Jun 2019 10:29 AM by Druth

I've just considered myself fortunate that I got 1 ra point to spend at lvl 5, and that mob bonuses+tasks have made it super easy to lvl.
My thane started rvr tasking around lvl 35, with a few when I was not making good xp, and really picked up at lvl 40.

Never tried BG's, and think I was around RR3 when I hit 50.

People put way to much emphasis on RR's, sure they are great, but the game is more fun if you just take it easy and stop focusing on them.

I know the phrase is old and boring, but really RR's can't make a bad player good. The people who beat me 1v1, or 8v8, would have done so no matter if they were RR4 or RR10. There are just players that are better than me, trying to excuse my loss by their RR is ignoring my own flaws.

Sun 9 Jun 2019 10:42 AM by relvinian

LOL

MY rr 10 necro just killed people with his ras.

Dropped ichor 5 volc pillar 3 and neg maelstrom 5 and stuff dies.

Go sit somewhere and return in 10 minutes.

Rinse repeat.

Also, rp gain from tasks has been nerfed to oblivion.

Also, shroom mechanics have not been addressed. When they designed these keeps did they put the windows in them so that they became death traps when shrooms were allowed to fire inside the keep through the windows?

Sun 9 Jun 2019 12:06 PM by Stoertebecker

Pops999 wrote: ↑
Sun 9 Jun 2019 9:38 AM
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑
Sun 9 Jun 2019 12:49 AM
Pops999 wrote: ↑
Fri 7 Jun 2019 10:14 PM
Those welfare RP's, besides pushing you all to high RR's, kept me in the game. I would never have had the energy to grind them out, RvRing all day long. So when I did PvP I had some RA's under my belt.

Now with the changes, that mechanic has been minimized. Got to be level 35 to "deserve" them. Can't have a gray earning a few RA's to help the level process. Got to earn them in a BG now. A BG that is mostly dead, at a pace that is mostly glacial. All so you level 50's can have a few more measly RP's off of me or populate a BG that only a vocal twinks wanted.

Perfect, fresh blood now starts with far greater hill to climb. Meanwhile, the server bleeds out, the old. Leaving once again, the "elite" wolves with no sheep and the death spiral continues. You didn't see Uthgard pick up any of that bled out population did you? That 4K pop at release, were guys like me giving DAOC one last shot, not you Live and Uthgard diehard vets.

Enjoy your nerfs, you got what you wanted and you got what you deserve.

You don`t need ra`s for leveling. All you need is a power or endu regen pot.

How easy does a game have to be today that ppl don`t cheat the fuck out of it? 24h played 0-50 and you crybabes are still complaing how long it takes.

You`ve never played live back in 2003 or on Uthgard 2 the first half year if you think you have to grind something here on Phoenix.
At release good enough for you kid? Where leveling was praying for a pixel movement of the xp bar?

It`s a Mmorpg. Mmorpgs should provide fun and stuff to do for month and years.
If you don`t have the time play tetris with a trainer, should be challening enough for you.

These moronic millennials....

Sun 9 Jun 2019 12:14 PM by Stoertebecker

relvinian wrote: ↑
Sun 9 Jun 2019 10:42 AM
LOL

MY rr 10 necro just killed people with his ras.

Dropped ichor 5 volc pillar 3 and neg maelstrom 5 and stuff dies.

Go sit somewhere and return in 10 minutes.

Rinse repeat.

Also, rp gain from tasks has been nerfed to oblivion.

Also, shroom mechanics have not been addressed. When they designed these keeps did they put the windows in them so that they became death traps when shrooms were allowed to fire inside the keep through the windows?

They staff made the necro that even a maron like you can success in rvr. With a necro how he was in mid 2000`you`d be rotting at rr2 in pve.
Remember your Hunter on Uthgard? How many days played and never made it over 40? 20days+?

And the staff should listen to players like you?
Suggestion... start your own server. It seems you have the necessary skills.

Sun 9 Jun 2019 1:52 PM by relvinian

Moron has an o in it.

Fine. I will just shut up now.

Devs are pretty decent here, despite my occasional outcry, for the most part i do appreciate their work.

But fix the windows and shrooms!

Mon 10 Jun 2019 2:10 PM by Pops999

Stoertebecker wrote: ↑
Sun 9 Jun 2019 12:06 PM
Pops999 wrote: ↑
Sun 9 Jun 2019 9:38 AM
Stoertebecker wrote: ↑
Sun 9 Jun 2019 12:49 AM
You don`t need ra`s for leveling. All you need is a power or endu regen pot.

How easy does a game have to be today that ppl don`t cheat the fuck out of it? 24h played 0-50 and you crybabes are still complaing how long it takes.

You`ve never played live back in 2003 or on Uthgard 2 the first half year if you think you have to grind something here on Phoenix.
At release good enough for you kid? Where leveling was praying for a pixel movement of the xp bar?
It`s a Mmorpg. Mmorpgs should provide fun and stuff to do for month and years.
If you don`t have the time play tetris with a trainer, should be challening enough for you.

These moronic millennials....

Sorry kid, I'm a geezer, I don't have years left.
Meanwhile how is my or anyone else earning xp, rp or gold a bit faster hurting you?

Mon 10 Jun 2019 7:49 PM by snayan17

relvinian wrote: ↑
Thu 6 Jun 2019 3:22 PM
You are changing your server to death, dear devs.

You now join the ranks of many other free daoc server devs who have done so.

I always knew arguing with stupid people was pointless.

Go back to Uthgard if its so bad.

Tue 11 Jun 2019 6:01 PM by Brokenstring

I always thought this server was too easy from the beginning. The leveling was too fast, no need to group at all, not even at 40+. The RvR tasks were botched from the beginning, greys getting levels and RPs for just dying was idiotic at best. DAoC isn't supposed to be an easy to play game, especially in the RvR aspect. EXP and RPs were too easy here. Uthgard was too hard, Phoenix was too easy. I was hoping Phoenix would be in between what it is and Uthgard, but it ended up jumping the shark and going way overboard.

Wed 12 Jun 2019 12:15 AM by Draygon

Lots has been said here, I think pop is cyclic and ots also summer so pop declines during breaks.

When they designed these keeps did they put the windows in them so that they became death traps when shrooms were allowed to fire inside the keep through the windows?

This right here is actually a HUGE thing that has to be addressed. Anamist mechanics are broken for shrooms, LoS still has to be addressed as does shroom placement. I hope that this gets fixed.

Fri 21 Jun 2019 11:33 PM by Armsmancer