Salvage drop nerf...

Started 12 May 2019
by Inkwell84
in PvE
So what are supposed to do to farm plats now? Serious question. If I can’t rely on having DF, but I need coin to buy house and level trade skill, aside from temping, how is a casual player supposed to generate decent quantities of coin? Especially when I can only play a few hours at a time a few days a week. Pre-nerf I at least had the promise of decent salvage farm, I could expect to slowly but surely farm salvage loot over time, build a nest egg, and then get my house and tradeskill going to start making money that way.

I don’t know where or how to consistently farm coin now.
Sun 12 May 2019 11:48 PM by dbeattie71
-Craft for profit.
-Farm tinders and sell them for 300/stack of 10.
-Burn down camps of blues greens and sell or salvage sell the drops.
Burn down 50+ mobs and sell high util drops. Salvage rest.
-Take keeps for feathers.
-Do galla for feathers, 1.5 runs = 8-10p

Enough to get started?
Sun 12 May 2019 11:59 PM by Inkwell84
Yeah I guess that’s a fair overview. Questions:

1) Do tinders only drop on frontier humanoids?

2) How much utility is worthy of saving for housing merchant?

3) How many feather for a keep take?
Mon 13 May 2019 12:08 AM by dbeattie71
Inkwell84 wrote:
Sun 12 May 2019 11:59 PM
Yeah I guess that’s a fair overview. Questions:

1) Do tinders only drop on frontier humanoids?

2) How much utility is worthy of saving for housing merchant?

3) How many feather for a keep take?

Tinder drop from all fz mobs but I like to farm them in the BGs.

Usually 50+ sells easy but then I salvage the rest and make blanks and sell those.

Not sure how many for a keep but those fz bosses drop 5k now. I think keep take amount can change if it’s defended.
Mon 13 May 2019 12:54 AM by dbeattie71
Inkwell84 wrote:
Mon 13 May 2019 12:26 AM
FZ bosses?

In Alb its Lady, not sure what Mid is named.

Can also sell stacks of claws.
Mon 13 May 2019 11:02 AM by florin
Many of these can not be done solo while having a Beer and watching Netflix
Mon 13 May 2019 1:24 PM by Sepplord
florin wrote:
Mon 13 May 2019 11:02 AM
Many of these can not be done solo while having a Beer and watching Netflix

Most efficient farming should depend on playing the game, though...so i would love if you were correct.

Most (if not all) of dbeattie's list can be done while watching netflix with a beer though...
Mon 13 May 2019 1:52 PM by florin
Sepplord wrote:
Mon 13 May 2019 1:24 PM
florin wrote:
Mon 13 May 2019 11:02 AM
Many of these can not be done solo while having a Beer and watching Netflix

Most efficient farming should depend on playing the game, though...so i would love if you were correct.

Most (if not all) of dbeattie's list can be done while watching netflix with a beer though...

I guess depending on class - epic raids for necros involve lots of power management between clerics and overzealous casters

Keep taking is fun afk on ram until you get popped by incoming
Thu 30 May 2019 6:44 AM by Kohi
It's not only about the salv stuff. My guildie needs a cloak which dropped by drakulv executioners. I used to farm there for salvage drops a lot, so i got in the past a lot of those cloaks, around every 35-45 kills. This said cloak was to find till last week for 180-200g max in hz, but with the new nerf (again...) most cheapest one -i checked today- starts by 500g and up to 1.5p which is a joke for this item. He was farming it yesterday for 2h in duo and it wouldn't drop, so i went there with sm and farmed yesterday 60+ mobs, no drop. Today again, i'm sitting at the spot with now lvl 3 task on those mobs = 92 kills, no drop. Seriously guys, i don't know what u are doing and why u keep nerfing everything, but this starts to become a pain. Summoner line nerfed without compensation/adjustement, now drop nerf, i don't get it somehow... I will end up buying it for my guildie, it's not the problem, but i'm pretty salty regarding this continuous pve nerfs, huge waste of time.
Thu 30 May 2019 9:31 AM by Estat
Kohi wrote:
Thu 30 May 2019 6:44 AM
My guildie needs a cloak which dropped by drakulv executioners.
Your guildie needs to learn how to build a template using ROG items. If you farmed 60+ executioners, you probably already got at least one ROG cloak that is way better than the drop you were waiting for and more than enough money to buy a good enough ROG from housing.
Thu 30 May 2019 11:00 AM by Kohi
Estat wrote:
Thu 30 May 2019 9:31 AM
Kohi wrote:
Thu 30 May 2019 6:44 AM
My guildie needs a cloak which dropped by drakulv executioners.
Your guildie needs to learn how to build a template using ROG items. If you farmed 60+ executioners, you probably already got at least one ROG cloak that is way better than the drop you were waiting for and more than enough money to buy a good enough ROG from housing.

Seems u didn't camp those mobs in the last days, lol. I just logged out, after more than 150 kills for today when i decided to stop, without seeing any cloak. I got as only regular loot from them the belt, no cloak no ring. Rest of jewellery rogs ended by my SB to make remnants (all <50 util, so far for your rog story). Did u just post to post, or were u willing to really say something productive ? Just asking because i already told in my previous post that i will buy the cloak in hz.
Anyway, this doesn't change the fact that the droprate is horrible as it is now, considering how often the regular loot was dropping before.
Thu 30 May 2019 4:27 PM by Estat
My point is that drop rate for regular loot that cannot be salvaged does not matter at all as these drops are very bad compared to ROG jewelry and are usually vendored anyway because they are not template worthy.

If you insist on using sub par gear for whatever reason that's your problem, not something the devs should fix.

Sorry to hear you got bad luck on ROG drops. We used to farm malm lair with challenge mode on for good drop rate or giants in the sw corner of raumarik, might try that. But then again I usually have at least two or three 50+ ROG jewelry if i farm random red mobs on my necro for 30 minutes so it shouldn't really matter what kind of mobs you farm.
Thu 30 May 2019 5:05 PM by Kohi
Estat wrote:
Thu 30 May 2019 4:27 PM
My point is that drop rate for regular loot that cannot be salvaged does not matter at all as these drops are very bad compared to ROG jewelry and are usually vendored anyway because they are not template worthy.

If you insist on using sub par gear for whatever reason that's your problem, not something the devs should fix.

Sorry to hear you got bad luck on ROG drops. We used to farm malm lair with challenge mode on for good drop rate or giants in the sw corner of raumarik, might try that. But then again I usually have at least two or three 50+ ROG jewelry if i farm random red mobs on my necro for 30 minutes so it shouldn't really matter what kind of mobs you farm.

I understand your pov, Estat, i also use to farm DR lair Executioners solo (summoner sm) and usually always come back with 1-2 decent rogs + few cloaks/belts/rings and for sure the usual loot table drops which i salvage on spot, but today was pure bs : logged in 10h30AM, pulled for an hour till my guildie came online (he logged on spot yesterday) and he joined me for like 2h then had to go to work, so i continued alone till 6h30PM around. I stopped when my inventory was full till last slot, at that point i was by 46/73 (task) i guess. I got maybe 8 slots jewellery, all under 50 util except one sneak ring. Really disappointing day. Now, regarding that item, it simply matches perfectly the sc i planned for him and i didn't expect it to be a problem as 1)this item dropped pretty often before 2)was available for 180g-200g till few days ago. The fact that they're all now by 500+ is a sign that this drop nerf was a bad idea. I already noticed too that there are not much TG/DR stuff for sale anymore in hz too, another hint. I'm not the only one complaining about this, i hear it all day long from guildies, pals, and sometimes in grp/chats.

Now, thanks for the tips tho, but Giants in SW corner of Rauma ? or do u mean the big Jotuns from SW corner of the swamp, over the hagbuis camp ? I usually get my high rogs from HLs for my part. It's more to help my newbies getting geared asap, and i don't mind investing time to farm something, but not wasting my time for crap like today. =( Considering that Executioners are red/purple to 50, that summoner got the ass card amongst all focus shield classes with the last nerf (he only had focus + buffs, no casts only baseline dd) and can now only handle 1 at a time, as 2 are stress pure) it's pretty annoying to add on top this droprate thing now. Anyway, i'll have to buy the cloak or modify the temp if i find another decent rog cloak to replace it. PS : u don't wanna know how much more mana it costs now with summoner, prob u will never have with a necro. ;-)
PPS : this cloak IS template worthy btw. 6% cold/crush/heat/slash 50hps
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