SPEED Token, for every nospeed class to enjoy.

BP or Feather [insert price] EDIT : SOMEONE SUGGESTED GOLD, Or easier to get anyhow : token :
20 charges
125 or 135% speed (less than purple caster speed by atleast 15%)
10-15 seconds cast
Can't be cast in fight.
Duration 5-10 minutes.
Can be used in RvR or PVE areas.
This, i would buy 100% Doesn't ruin balance and help everyone, even if not in RvR (I xp infiltrator right now ... it would help !)

Then everyone can enjoy, especially nospeed soloers in RvR. You don't always have a hasterner nearby... Give us that token !

Wed 1 Aug 2018 5:07 PM by Bigga

why not testing while in beta? beta should be also there to test some features. maybe it helps solo player!

Wed 1 Aug 2018 5:12 PM by sebbo

Nope. I don´t see any sense in totally customizing everything here. Players are already overwhelmed by the eggs, cant click on "info" and read. Only players with lvl 50s (or at least 45+) would be able to get those, since they´d need feathers and/or BPs. Thus, it wouldn´t help while xp´ing, just an improvement for solo rvr - oh, you got an infiltrator...

Wed 1 Aug 2018 5:22 PM by Kha

sebbo wrote: ↑
Wed 1 Aug 2018 5:12 PM
Nope. I don´t see any sense in totally customizing everything here. Players are already overwhelmed by the eggs, cant click on "info" and read. Only players with lvl 50s (or at least 45+) would be able to get those, since they´d need feathers and/or BPs. Thus, it wouldn´t help while xp´ing, just an improvement for solo rvr - oh, you got an infiltrator...

Good point, why not gold then ?
I proposed BP or Feathers because those kind of token sells for BP on live.
But hey ... gold could do. Was just a first try at the idea. Didn't consider lowbies first char. (However should really do a group class as first char ... not a solo sneak.)

Wed 1 Aug 2018 5:38 PM by Tokajer

I would prefer horses then

Wed 1 Aug 2018 6:32 PM by Kha

Easy speed 6 to everyone isn't my suggestion.
Make your own ...
Or group with a bard !

Here we talk about things that help without totally ruining the solo smallman balance.

Wed 1 Aug 2018 7:24 PM by Brokenstring

Sorcerers are some of the best solo'ers in the game. They don't have speed 6 and they don't have stealth. One of the reasons they are some of the best is that they do have some level of speed (speed 4 I guess) (try soloing on a Mentalist, it blows with no speed). Every bit helps, especially in the solo game.

With speed 4 pots, you'd essentially be taking away a Sorcerer advantage. Is that fair to the Sorcerer class? Not really.

Also, I'd rather have speed 4 pots stacked with endo pots as a solo Savage than no speed 4 pots. With that, you essentially have speed 5 for a few minutes. If that 8 man or zerg is that thirsty for ONE solo player that they'll chase it across a zone (since that's how long it'll take with speed 5 vs speed 6), then I think the server has bigger issues.

The point is, giving speed pots IS helping, it's just not helping as much as you want. However, it may be the most fair to true speed classes.

Wed 1 Aug 2018 10:10 PM by Kha

Brokenstring wrote: ↑
Wed 1 Aug 2018 7:24 PM
Sorcerers are some of the best solo'ers in the game. They don't have speed 6 and they don't have stealth. One of the reasons they are some of the best is that they do have some level of speed (speed 4 I guess) (try soloing on a Mentalist, it blows with no speed). Every bit helps, especially in the solo game.

With speed 4 pots, you'd essentially be taking away a Sorcerer advantage. Is that fair to the Sorcerer class? Not really.

Also, I'd rather have speed 4 pots stacked with endo pots as a solo Savage than no speed 4 pots. With that, you essentially have speed 5 for a few minutes. If that 8 man or zerg is that thirsty for ONE solo player that they'll chase it across a zone (since that's how long it'll take with speed 5 vs speed 6), then I think the server has bigger issues.

The point is, giving speed pots IS helping, it's just not helping as much as you want. However, it may be the most fair to true speed classes.

That is especially why i suggest a token that is 15% lower than sorc speed at level 50 AT BEST.
But am sure, if devs consider this idea, they'll go for a balance solution, they won't ever give speed 5 or 6 to everyone, that would be insane.

Fri 3 Aug 2018 6:29 PM by Kha

In some suggestion Threads they got lucky enough to get a staff reaction.
I know you have ALOT to do, but maybe we could be lucky and get the staff first opinion on this kind of stuff ?
I would be glad if it happens, but i won't mind if it doesn't, it's just an idea.
As long as we don't en up with speed 5 or 6 to everyone, am happy

Fri 3 Aug 2018 6:49 PM by

Uthred

There are hasteners (at every keep) that give 10 mins speed. We will not have rvr-horses and we will also not have speed tokens. We are not planing any other additional speed boost things.

Although not everybody likes to hear that, but we think that giving speed to every class (by horse, pots or token) would totally change the balance of rvr. We are always interested in new ideas and there were already a lot of suggestions that we build into the game, but we will not put in any extra speed bonuses. Sorry, if you dont like my answer, but im just honest to you.

Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:11 PM by Frigzy

Uthred wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 6:49 PM
There are hasteners (at every keep) that give 10 mins speed. We will not have rvr-horses and we will also not have speed tokens. We are not planing any other additional speed boost things.

Although not everybody likes to hear that, but we think that giving speed to every class (by horse, pots or token) would totally change the balance of rvr. We are always interested in new ideas and there were already a lot of suggestions that we build into the game, but we will not put in any extra speed bonuses. Sorry, if you dont like my answer, but im just honest to you.

Okay... The main point about speed for soloers is getting around.

Will there be other ways to get to the action quickly? Porting to keeps for instance?

Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:13 PM by

Uthred

Frigzy wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:11 PM
Uthred wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 6:49 PM
There are hasteners (at every keep) that give 10 mins speed. We will not have rvr-horses and we will also not have speed tokens. We are not planing any other additional speed boost things.

Although not everybody likes to hear that, but we think that giving speed to every class (by horse, pots or token) would totally change the balance of rvr. We are always interested in new ideas and there were already a lot of suggestions that we build into the game, but we will not put in any extra speed bonuses. Sorry, if you dont like my answer, but im just honest to you.

Okay... The main point about speed for soloers is getting around.

Will there be other ways to get to the action quickly? Porting to keeps for instance?

That is something we are still discussing and dont have a final result yet.

Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:23 PM by aso

Uthred wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 6:49 PM
There are hasteners (at every keep) that give 10 mins speed. We will not have rvr-horses and we will also not have speed tokens. We are not planing any other additional speed boost things.

Although not everybody likes to hear that, but we think that giving speed to every class (by horse, pots or token) would totally change the balance of rvr. We are always interested in new ideas and there were already a lot of suggestions that we build into the game, but we will not put in any extra speed bonuses. Sorry, if you dont like my answer, but im just honest to you.

thank you to be honest.
for me sad news, but i hope you can find a way for fast action for solo/smallmans even when the rps are very less

Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:34 PM by Frigzy

Uthred wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:13 PM
That is something we are still discussing and dont have a final result yet.

Alright.

My main gripe with speedless solo RvR is that yes, there are hasteners, but that runs out once you get attacked. If you invade enemy territory, that means you are stuck there unless you want to follow up your already 8 minute walk with another 10 minute walk to another zone.

The biggest problem with speedless solo RvR is the downtime you get simply due to the distance versus your own speed.

The playstyle is actually quite casual, but the amount of time invested compared to the return is everything but casual.

I would love to see this addressed in some way or another. It will definitely help out the population who aims to play this way.

Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:57 PM by Kha

Uthred wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 6:49 PM
There are hasteners (at every keep) that give 10 mins speed. We will not have rvr-horses and we will also not have speed tokens. We are not planing any other additional speed boost things.

Although not everybody likes to hear that, but we think that giving speed to every class (by horse, pots or token) would totally change the balance of rvr. We are always interested in new ideas and there were already a lot of suggestions that we build into the game, but we will not put in any extra speed bonuses. Sorry, if you dont like my answer, but im just honest to you.

Oh good, thanks for that answer. Why not, it's stays balanced.

Uthred wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:13 PM
Frigzy wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:11 PM
Uthred wrote: ↑
Fri 3 Aug 2018 6:49 PM
There are hasteners (at every keep) that give 10 mins speed. We will not have rvr-horses and we will also not have speed tokens. We are not planing any other additional speed boost things.

Although not everybody likes to hear that, but we think that giving speed to every class (by horse, pots or token) would totally change the balance of rvr. We are always interested in new ideas and there were already a lot of suggestions that we build into the game, but we will not put in any extra speed bonuses. Sorry, if you dont like my answer, but im just honest to you.

Okay... The main point about speed for soloers is getting around.

Will there be other ways to get to the action quickly? Porting to keeps for instance?

That is something we are still discussing and dont have a final result yet.

What the hell ????

So may i have a porter to my red/purple pet spots to find a charm please ? Then i don't have to suffer MG passage, or portal keeps struggle points ?
Am solo aswell, i'd like some easy TP to avoid any traps other solo ennemies may try to tend on my way ... You know ?

Fri 3 Aug 2018 7:59 PM by Kha

Please @Uthered, you are still discussing, add my above imput to your discussions, i BEG you.
Giving up on horses : great, on slow speed token : why not.
But discussing port for solo or anything else ...
Sign me out of here, or give random port for pet classes, to the spot they want.

Fri 3 Aug 2018 8:37 PM by aso

if you ask me remove hasteners to, it makes no sense if you got it 1 time, then not anymore, its strange somehow.
someone who was fighting recently, will got a disadvantage against someone who was not in fight and still got the hastener up.
and such a gem should not be implemented.