stealth minstrel spec - Phoenix Freeshard

what is the used stealther spec for mins?
i'm highlander slash.

50 song 30 slash 33 stealth?

30 for amethist i was thinking ....

Tue 7 May 2019 12:22 PM by Vishario

you can try the following:

44 instr
34 slash
37 stealth

then lower stealth when above RR4 and put the points in slash (or instr) and so on

Wed 8 May 2019 7:14 AM by Bowie

thanks i ll try that.

Fri 10 May 2019 2:07 AM by nixxo87

do not go sub 50 inst, i tried a 40 stealth spec with low weapon and my partner could still see me far away, i dropped it back down to 33 and went 30 weapon.

Fri 10 May 2019 8:01 AM by Bowie

nixxo87 wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 2:07 AM
do not go sub 50 inst, i tried a 40 stealth spec with low weapon and my partner could still see me far away, i dropped it back down to 33 and went 30 weapon.

i tryed 44 Instr and 35 Stealth but even with MoF 3 i got resist 40% charm with OJ pet QQ
It seems i need to go back to 50 instr.
Once i ll be higher RR then i will try back the spec.

Fri 10 May 2019 8:59 AM by Lillebror

Its pointless to go comp 50 stealth when it comes to Assassins. they see you from 480 units even if both got 50 comp stealth, You see them after the PA animation.

50 stealth works fine vs visuals so your first route with 33 stealth is more than fine vs visuals.

Fri 10 May 2019 9:42 AM by Vishario

also have a look at the wiki about the range of seeing other stealthers: http://playphoenix.wiki/stealth-changes/

so you get MoS 5 at 30 stealth specc with 22% movement speed and MoS 6 with 35 stealth specc and 25% movement speed.

but what are the other benefits of MoS?
whats the detection range with MoS 5 or 6 and how much does this add up to the mentioned range of 125?

Fri 10 May 2019 9:48 AM by Lillebror

Minstrel get no stealth detection. they are as any other visuals when it comes to detect stealthers. go figure since we spec into the line.....

Fri 10 May 2019 12:09 PM by Sepplord

Lillebror wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 9:48 AM
Minstrel get no stealth detection. they are as any other visuals when it comes to detect stealthers. go figure since we spec into the line.....

No class gets better stealthdetection via stealthspecc or MOS here...

Fri 10 May 2019 12:47 PM by Lillebror

So a lvl 5 NS/SB see the Minstrel from same range as a 50?

God, i hate the stealth settings on this server

Fri 10 May 2019 2:01 PM by Sepplord

Lillebror wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 12:47 PM
So a lvl 5 NS/SB see the Minstrel from same range as a 50?

God, i hate the stealth settings on this server

they do? first time i hear that.

Fri 10 May 2019 3:13 PM by keen

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 2:01 PM
Lillebror wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 12:47 PM
So a lvl 5 NS/SB see the Minstrel from same range as a 50?

God, i hate the stealth settings on this server

they do? first time i hear that.

Just because ppl put a question mark, doesn't make it less of a lie

Fri 10 May 2019 4:37 PM by Lillebror

You state speccing stealth dosent give detection. That means it gotta be linked to class

Fri 10 May 2019 9:31 PM by Turano

Lillebror wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 4:37 PM
You state speccing stealth dosent give detection. That means it gotta be linked to class

It's neither. Your stealth detection is tied to your level and the amount of stealth skilled by the one you want to detect.
The only thing messing with stealth detection is the detect hidden skill that assassins gain upon specing 16 points in stealth which doubles their detection radius to everyone that does not have the detect hidden skill.
So every lvl 50 character that is not an assassin has the same detection range

Sat 11 May 2019 3:20 PM by Lillebror

Not 100% correct.
Archers see Assassins and Minstrels tiny better than visuals

Sun 12 May 2019 4:52 PM by Sepplord

Lillebror wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 4:37 PM
You state speccing stealth dosent give detection. That means it gotta be linked to class

It doesn't give detection, it impairs detection of others though....huge difference

Sun 12 May 2019 7:26 PM by Lillebror

I been testing Inf in Thid this weekend and damn i became sad for all the Archers out there.

Your seen from «miles» alway. Only comfort is that PA sucks balls there.
Melee ranger seems good and skald are real bad ass there

Tue 21 May 2019 11:12 PM by Fribrand

Vishario wrote: ↑
Tue 7 May 2019 12:22 PM
you can try the following:
44 instr
34 slash
37 stealth
then lower stealth when above RR4 and put the points in slash (or instr) and so on

At 4L5, I run:
45 instr
35 thrust
35 stealth
The plan is for mod wep and stealth of 50 @ RR5

But now I have a question about resists...
Do peeps/pets resist our cc/charm at the lvl of the spell, our instr spec or our modified instr spec?
I thought it was modified instr spec but after some of the other comments I wonder if it in not spell lvl.

Tue 21 May 2019 11:36 PM by djegu

how do you like your spec atm ? it is viable ?

Wed 22 May 2019 1:10 AM by Fribrand

djegu wrote: ↑
Tue 21 May 2019 11:36 PM
how do you like your spec atm ? it is viable ?

If this was targeted at me...

50 comp stealth and 35 actual (for movement speed) seems a must.
I would like 39 thrust for the haste de-buff but not willing to go less than 44 instr for DD.
It seems that the DD means more to me than melee even though DD range blows at 700.
I considered trying slash but would want 39 in that as well and am a sarac so dex is better.

The overall spec seems fine but can't test the differences anymore because I timed out on free respec's