Alb/Hib Get Celerity now, right?

Started 11 May 2019
by Fugax
in Suggestions
Only seems fair that the other two realms got AF buff...
Sat 11 May 2019 5:14 AM by Bradekes
Fugax wrote:
Sat 11 May 2019 3:24 AM
Only seems fair that the other two realms got AF buff...

The last AF buff mid and hib get are at level 34.. I don't think lvl34 spec af is as powerful as celerity
Sat 11 May 2019 9:00 AM by Luluko
sure why not give them 5% celerity casteable on cleric and also 1k range to make up for that 50 specc af lol
Sat 11 May 2019 3:59 PM by ProudGinger
Fugax wrote:
Sat 11 May 2019 3:24 AM
Only seems fair that the other two realms got AF buff...

As soon as healer and sorc get insta amnesia
As soon as sb gets another dmg type they can spec.
As soon as mid gets a pet spam class.
As soon as alb don't need 5 class to fill the same role as 3 mids can.
As soon as bard and healer can cast mez at 1875 range.
As soon as zerker got some form of stun that doesnt require your target to hit you.
As soon as albs and hibs don't have to spec 2 different line to be able to use 1h or 2h.

I think you get my point, things are not the same on all realms and on all class. This ain't a mirror class game and i'm pretty sure you understand why.
Sat 11 May 2019 4:46 PM by moosington
This would definitely be a good thing. It would help make tank groups more viable in rvr and leveling for both realms.

To the above post, everything in that list is already counter balanced in the game. Sorcs don’t need anything, healers get cc and group heals, SBs have high str and can use 2h + offhand always hits, alb has super solid 2-3 mans, bard and healers don’t need bolt range, mid has BDs for pets (also OP as shit) + run a SM for a change, and zerks are fine run a warrior on your train for once instead of making them peel bots. Celerity is a realm balancing ability like having a primary mezzer, healer or buffer.

The hard part is ‘who gets it?’ Wardens make sense in hib as there’s not much to do on them and they’re horribly underplayed, but Paladins and friars already got huge buffs.
Sat 11 May 2019 5:40 PM by The Skies Asunder
I would be fine with adding celerity to Alb/Hib, as it would give me a reason to play my Warden. That said, I am also fine not having it. If they did add it, they could even stop at a lower level one, like with the spec AF that Hib/Mid got.
Sat 11 May 2019 5:55 PM by ProudGinger
moosington wrote:
Sat 11 May 2019 4:46 PM
This would definitely be a good thing. It would help make tank groups more viable in rvr and leveling for both realms.

To the above post, everything in that list is already counter balanced in the game. Sorcs don’t need anything, healers get cc and group heals, SBs have high str and can use 2h + offhand always hits, alb has super solid 2-3 mans, bard and healers don’t need bolt range, mid has BDs for pets (also OP as shit) + run a SM for a change, and zerks are fine run a warrior on your train for once instead of making them peel bots. Celerity is a realm balancing ability like having a primary mezzer, healer or buffer.

The hard part is ‘who gets it?’ Wardens make sense in hib as there’s not much to do on them and they’re horribly underplayed, but Paladins and friars already got huge buffs.

Exactly my point, everything is counter balanced, some stuff your realm got stronger than the other realm. Doesn't need to be equal all the time. So no celerity for albs/hibs.
Sat 11 May 2019 7:55 PM by easytoremember
ProudGinger wrote:
Sat 11 May 2019 3:59 PM
Fugax wrote:
Sat 11 May 2019 3:24 AM
Only seems fair that the other two realms got AF buff...

As soon as healer and sorc get insta amnesia
As soon as sb gets another dmg type they can spec.
As soon as mid gets a pet spam class.
As soon as alb don't need 5 class to fill the same role as 3 mids can.
As soon as bard and healer can cast mez at 1875 range.
As soon as zerker got some form of stun that doesnt require your target to hit you.
As soon as albs and hibs don't have to spec 2 different line to be able to use 1h or 2h.

I think you get my point, things are not the same on all realms and on all class. This ain't a mirror class game and i'm pretty sure you understand why.

Wow it's like spec AF shouldn't exist in Mid/Hib speclines. Weird!
Sun 12 May 2019 10:48 AM by CronU
easytoremember wrote:
Sat 11 May 2019 7:55 PM
Wow it's like spec AF shouldn't exist in Mid/Hib speclines. Weird!

I guess some people are missing three important points here.
Spec AF - Charge, was already avaiable for all 3 realms. in a normal 2 cleric rvr grp all charged spec af anyways, as well as every mid / hib grp charged it before the change.
This change just reduced the recharge costs for all 3 realms, nothing else.

Celerity on Midgard. I'm playing an Aughealer myself. Celerity is up infight for around 20-30% of the time, not 100%. So its much overrated in many threads here.
Healers, also Aughealers have so many things to do in fights and are most of the time not even in the 1k range of their tanks to make use celerity.
A Warden for example is standing far more in the front in a Hibernian Tank grp compared to an Aughealer, so they would have a way easier access rangewise.

In a direct comparison Hibernia Tank grp, Midgard Tank grp, Alb Tank grp.. imo Midgard tank grp is the weakest atm.
Hibernia is stronger just setupwise due to the warden.
Albion can deal as much dmg with 2 tanks+necro AF debuff, as a 3 tank midgrp. and even have space for a theurg to get huge rupts out.

So, please... stop crying about every bit of QoL the Dev's are serving us with.
Sun 12 May 2019 1:05 PM by bigne88
indeed Wardens and Paladins can have Celerity! amazing thing it would be!
Sun 12 May 2019 3:54 PM by imissswg
How about give Friars conc haste like Live, even if it’s a nerfed version
Mon 13 May 2019 8:44 AM by Sepplord
the good groups in Mid/Hib have access to LESS SpecAF now don't they?

Charges got removed and max buff is in the thirties of spec
Mon 13 May 2019 3:23 PM by Drominchen
Hibs should always have it now with bard group spec being always 43 nurt (with 44 spec buff on live most even went 44 nurt back in the day). With also 2 druids and most of the time a warden hibs have plenty conc to buff everything.

Mids should also have it if aug healer spec still has 34-36 aug as back on live (think most common spec was 40 mend 36 aug 4 pac). If you run 2 healer 1 sham you could get serious conc probs tho for aug bases and spec af and sham specs but you could cover the not as important bases with pac bases and the unimportant specs with pot buffs...
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