new potion buff is a joke - speccing augmention totaly useless now?!

why should i spec augmentation with shaman when the potions are so op now? i have 38 aug and the potions are not much worse than my specc buffs....
its generally a joke for all classes with specced selfbuffs....

only advantage is I can buff myself instant with that combo buff - my mates can do this too, spares me the whole buff time....

Fri 10 May 2019 12:47 PM by Sepplord

Cohkka wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 12:35 PM
why should i spec augmentation with shaman when the potions are so op now? i have 38 aug and the potions are not much worse than my specc buffs....
its generally a joke for all classes with specced selfbuffs....

only advantage is I can buff myself instant with that combo buff - my mates can do this too, spares me the whole buff time....

The total amount of stats people can get without grouping a buff-class has been reduced from 101 to 83 for Str/Con/Dex, Available quickness was even reduced by 25points.
Resistbuffs are also a thing

during levelling there is no reason to go aug-shaman from lvl30 onwards though...but 50RvR you still have your place. Being Aug isn't an absolute must anymore (Which is good imo) while it still is a usefull specc

Fri 10 May 2019 12:54 PM by lurker

Your buffs buff for more than the delve value (i believe its 1.25 value with enough + aug).
So its not as simple as this buffs for +50 and mine says +58. There is a wider gap then that.

As sepplord said, also resists. Also greater than +3 endurance regen.

Buff pots don’t have access to MoArcane, you do.

Your argument was actually more valid before the change when people could buff to +101 from pots and charges.
This has been nerfed to +83.

Fri 10 May 2019 1:08 PM by Mauriac

Glad to see the changes going just like the devs wanted

Everyone is totally going to love them even though probably 80 percent of people had no idea they were coming.

Fri 10 May 2019 3:56 PM by Cohkka

its a joke... for endu we have pots too, and speccing augmentation ONLY for resis is totally waste of skillpoints (for Solo/Small) ...

come on insert some Instant full buff merchants for free for all like on live Servers... 😡😡😡

BTW free respec for all buff chars would be nice now - wanna to try 47cave 26heal... kkthxbye

Fri 10 May 2019 4:27 PM by Wintil

lurker wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 12:54 PM
Buff pots don’t have access to MoArcane, you do.

I have MoArc 5 : Buffs pots give +92 per stats. It seems they get the bonus

Fri 10 May 2019 4:57 PM by lurker

Wintil wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 4:27 PM
lurker wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 12:54 PM
Buff pots don’t have access to MoArcane, you do.

I have MoArc 5 : Buffs pots give +92 per stats. It seems they get the bonus

That’s interesting. Although only useful on classes with access to MoA. But still.

I may have to try that on my cabby for farming.

Fri 10 May 2019 5:04 PM by lurker

Cohkka wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 3:56 PM
its a joke... for endu we have pots too, and speccing augmentation ONLY for resis is totally waste of skillpoints (for Solo/Small) ...

come on insert some Instant full buff merchants for free for all like on live Servers... 😡😡😡

BTW free respec for all buff chars would be nice now - wanna to try 47cave 26heal... kkthxbye

Let me get this right...

So you are ignoring the fact that non-casted (charge) spec buffs actually got a nerf (no more +75 available to all who want them).

Then your argument is ‘My spec line is totally useless now’. When, gold cost aside, it’s better than before.

And you then followed up with ‘Come on... implement even stronger buffs accessible by all!’.

I can only think you are trolling? There is no logic here...

Fri 10 May 2019 5:15 PM by vxr

Wintil wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 4:27 PM
lurker wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 12:54 PM
Buff pots don’t have access to MoArcane, you do.

I have MoArc 5 : Buffs pots give +92 per stats. It seems they get the bonus

Are you sure about this? I remember testing MoArc and it didn't effects pots. Can anyone confirm!??!?!

Fri 10 May 2019 5:19 PM by Bradekes

Mauriac wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 1:08 PM
Glad to see the changes going just like the devs wanted

Everyone is totally going to love them even though probably 80 percent of people had no idea they were coming.

I honestly think most of the people in the forum honestly either don't fully understand the game mechanics or are misreading/not comprehending what exactly changed.. Your point of view about charges being nerfed is vastly different from what the majority of the complaints have been about.

Fri 10 May 2019 5:20 PM by relvinian

"BTW free respec for all buff chars would be nice now - wanna to try 47cave 26heal... kkthxbye"

100% correct, feathers should be given back if they can manage it for those who turn in their old items.

And there should be a free full respec given out to all.

Fri 10 May 2019 5:28 PM by Mauriac

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 5:19 PM
Mauriac wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 1:08 PM
Glad to see the changes going just like the devs wanted

Everyone is totally going to love them even though probably 80 percent of people had no idea they were coming.

I honestly think most of the people in the forum honestly either don't fully understand the game mechanics or are misreading/not comprehending what exactly changed.. Your point of view about charges being nerfed is vastly different from what the majority of the complaints have been about.

Then you don't understand my complaint. I've explained it thoroughly elsewhere. It wasn't about the charges. It was about the stats and how that affects different class/race combos more than others.

Fri 10 May 2019 5:33 PM by Bradekes

Mauriac wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 5:28 PM
Then you don't understand my complaint. I've explained it thoroughly elsewhere. It wasn't about the charges. It was about the stats and how that affects different class/race combos more than others.

Ohh yeah still whining about SB that's right

forgot about that.. Pretty sure seeings they are static numbers, they statically effect every race the same. Especially because only quickness has caps on this server and nothing else.. IMO they should remove quickness cap too because they removed most soft caps in the game

Fri 10 May 2019 6:38 PM by Mauriac

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 5:33 PM
Mauriac wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 5:28 PM
Then you don't understand my complaint. I've explained it thoroughly elsewhere. It wasn't about the charges. It was about the stats and how that affects different class/race combos more than others.

Ohh yeah still whining about SB that's right forgot about that.. Pretty sure seeings they are static numbers, they statically effect every race the same. Especially because only quickness has caps on this server and nothing else.. IMO they should remove quickness cap too because they removed most soft caps in the game

Whining about SBs lol. Jesus you're a tool. Just because it isn't your class it's whining. If it was I'm sure you'd call it feedback. Dex also has a cap with regards to evade. And SBs get more hp per con so they lose more flat hp from this. And quickness has an evade and swing speed cap. These changes put SBs under that cap. Luris and elves aren't hence they don't lose swing speed or evade. Anyway, have fun. I'm tired of responding to someone who is the mental equivalent of a wall.

Fri 10 May 2019 7:59 PM by Bradekes

Mauriac wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 6:38 PM
Whining about SBs lol. Jesus you're a tool. Just because it isn't your class it's whining. If it was I'm sure you'd call it feedback. Dex also has a cap with regards to evade. And SBs get more hp per con so they lose more flat hp from this. And quickness has an evade and swing speed cap. These changes put SBs under that cap. Luris and elves aren't hence they don't lose swing speed or evade. Anyway, have fun. I'm tired of responding to someone who is the mental equivalent of a wall.

You roll a Norse then complain about dex & quickness??? Lol what about luri and elf losing strength?? Ohh but it's not you so it doesn't matter?? Luri might still cap qui but will never touch your strength.. Roll a damn kobby or valkyn if you are so worried bro

Also just a note.. Quickness doesn't cap evade ever so you're losing the same amount of % as a luri and dex doesn't have a cap for evade lol..

Fri 10 May 2019 8:20 PM by Svekt

relvinian wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 5:20 PM
"BTW free respec for all buff chars would be nice now - wanna to try 47cave 26heal... kkthxbye"

100% correct, feathers should be given back if they can manage it for those who turn in their old items.

And there should be a free full respec given out to all.

Worse part is I mentioned they should make the server aware through a global message to come vote on these changes. This suggestion was liked multiple times and quoted but completely ignored. Would like a refund on all money and feathers spent before I play again.

Fri 10 May 2019 8:25 PM by Dominus

a free skill and realm respec "should" have been offered as this has a HUGE impact on any class that has self buffs. I blew 8k feathers respeccing my ranger, not to mention now wasting 40k feathers on 2 of each str/con and dex/qui charge items.

Fri 10 May 2019 8:30 PM by Svekt

Dominus wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 8:25 PM
a free skill and realm respec "should" have been offered as this has a HUGE impact on any class that has self buffs. I blew 8k feathers respeccing my ranger, not to mention now wasting 40k feathers on 2 of each str/con and dex/qui charge items.

You are not the only one. They completely overlooked the fact that they killed every effort people previously put into their toons acquiring these charges. Time spent farming coin/feathers/drops has all been lost. Good luck selling a charge item now when you get all the same stats on a barrel.

Fri 10 May 2019 8:37 PM by Dominus

would like to see how much plat and feathers have been spent today purchasing respec stones as a result. Love the server, but they need an ombudsman on staff who says.. uh guys, we need to throw them a bone here.

Fri 10 May 2019 8:41 PM by relvinian

i have confidence in the devs. I think something should be done and I'm giving my opinion on that.

But they are doing their best.

Fri 10 May 2019 8:45 PM by Dominus

add that to the farming nerf (err fix) to Hibernia and that huge sucking sound you hear? that's Hibs leaving the realm / or server.

Fri 10 May 2019 10:02 PM by stinsfire

Dominus wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 8:45 PM
add that to the farming nerf (err fix) to Hibernia and that huge sucking sound you hear? that's Hibs leaving the realm / or server.

Tissue?

This whole thread is a joke...

Sat 11 May 2019 9:53 AM by Auranyte

vxr wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 5:15 PM
Wintil wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 4:27 PM
lurker wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 12:54 PM
Buff pots don’t have access to MoArcane, you do.

I have MoArc 5 : Buffs pots give +92 per stats. It seems they get the bonus

Are you sure about this? I remember testing MoArc and it didn't effects pots. Can anyone confirm!??!?!

It does affect the pots. I have no clue when it started, because like you I remember testing it and it didn't work (likewise it didn't work with charges when I tested as well)

Sat 11 May 2019 2:33 PM by vxr

Auranyte wrote: ↑
Sat 11 May 2019 9:53 AM
vxr wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 5:15 PM
Wintil wrote: ↑
Fri 10 May 2019 4:27 PM
I have MoArc 5 : Buffs pots give +92 per stats. It seems they get the bonus

Are you sure about this? I remember testing MoArc and it didn't effects pots. Can anyone confirm!??!?!
It does affect the pots. I have no clue when it started, because like you I remember testing it and it didn't work (likewise it didn't work with charges when I tested as well)

Thank you for the info.