First Impressions of the "New" BG system

Alright, so first off I appreciate the small amount of time devoted to starting to enhance the BG system. I am enjoying attempting to level through the BG with my Valewalker as I level up this weekend.

The problem tho? RPS is very low without the task system... I am in Thid getting 8-10RPS per kill, I am not sure how a 3L0 RR cap is a reasonable goal at that rate? If they are wanting players to get in and get out of the BG maybe some extra RPS incentives would be nice... Unless the whole goal was something different for them than for the players?

I am confused! Would appreciate some light on how this system is beneficial?

Sun 5 May 2019 4:26 PM by Luluko

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 12:57 PM
Alright, so first off I appreciate the small amount of time devoted to starting to enhance the BG system. I am enjoying attempting to level through the BG with my Valewalker as I level up this weekend.

The problem tho? RPS is very low without the task system... I am in Thid getting 8-10RPS per kill, I am not sure how a 3L0 RR cap is a reasonable goal at that rate? If they are wanting players to get in and get out of the BG maybe some extra RPS incentives would be nice... Unless the whole goal was something different for them than for the players?

I am confused! Would appreciate some light on how this system is beneficial?

you get more rps from kill/solo kill tasks, also I dont think they went through with disabling the xp/rp off but from what I saw in 2 hours I was in the lvl 25-29 bg. That one is really not worth it staying there saw 2 necros, 2anis and one of those camping a bridge,1 wizz and a hero or bm and one ranger thats not really enough in a two hour timeframe hopefully the action will get a little better in the 30+ bgs at least you have access to the good buffpots there

Sun 5 May 2019 4:33 PM by Bradekes

Luluko wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 4:26 PM
you get more rps from kill/solo kill tasks

Alright so kill tasks are the way? I had plenty of kills and I'm not sure the kill task did much.. Was 1l5 at the beginning of the day then after 77 or so kills only 1l6.. I had solo kills too those got me 25rps.. Probably only worth doing bg after 35 for realm task boost..

Biggest problem in this is I'm pretty sure some people prepped for it getting their toon 2L5ish before BG change meaning no one in this will really catch up and they are safe to stay there a long time because rps gain is so small

Sun 5 May 2019 5:30 PM by Luluko

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 4:33 PM
Luluko wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 4:26 PM
you get more rps from kill/solo kill tasks

Alright so kill tasks are the way? I had plenty of kills and I'm not sure the kill task did much.. Was 1l5 at the beginning of the day then after 77 or so kills only 1l6.. I had solo kills too those got me 25rps.. Probably only worth doing bg after 35 for realm task boost..

Biggest problem in this is I'm pretty sure some people prepped for it getting their toon 2L5ish before BG change meaning no one in this will really catch up and they are safe to stay there a long time because rps gain is so small

yeah my sb was also already 2l6 before I went into the bgs lvling at 27-28 the 5 solo kill task gives like 130-200rps I think and one solo kill between 60-90rps will certainly take a long time to hit rr cap in the lower bgs.

the sad thing is if /rp off doesnt work I will just level a new toon through the bgs if I have more fun there, 50 solo rvr even on a skald isnt that much fun if you dont like dying too often

Sun 5 May 2019 7:39 PM by majky666

RR3 is 61750 RPS. Who the hell will try cap out Thidranki with 25rps per solo kill? It is almost 2500 kills (not counting task bonus or kck take reward)

But I am enjoying running around in Thid with my merc, when there is no "big boy" action.

Sun 5 May 2019 7:51 PM by Lillebror

Ppl whine when they Get to much rps and CAP out of bg and ppl whine if they Get to little.

Enjoy your PvP in bg, you can have fin exping killing other players instead of this insane boring mobs.
If its means 2500 solo kill to CAP out, it sounds like a ton of fun, if not just move on or grind some mindless mobs

Mon 6 May 2019 6:32 AM by Estat

My first impression: Mobs dont drop loot except xp items.

With xp items dependent on keep ownership its not worth it to go there to level.

I also didnt get credit for the „kill mobs in frontiers task“.

On the bright side: suiciding to get xp is still perfectly viable once you reach 35! The rp reward per suicide (not that i care) has been doubled. YAY for suiciding!

Mon 6 May 2019 7:00 AM by Lollie

Estat wrote: ↑
Mon 6 May 2019 6:32 AM
My first impression: Mobs dont drop loot except xp items.

With xp items dependent on keep ownership its not worth it to go there to level.

I also didnt get credit for the „kill mobs in frontiers task“.

On the bright side: suiciding to get xp is still perfectly viable once you reach 35! The rp reward per suicide (not that i care) has been doubled. YAY for suiciding!

Shh, the complainers will start and before you know it, it will be lvl 40 for task credit

Mon 6 May 2019 8:13 AM by

Uthred

Estat wrote: ↑
Mon 6 May 2019 6:32 AM
My first impression: Mobs dont drop loot except xp items.

With xp items dependent on keep ownership its not worth it to go there to level.

I also didnt get credit for the „kill mobs in frontiers task“.

On the bright side: suiciding to get xp is still perfectly viable once you reach 35! The rp reward per suicide (not that i care) has been doubled. YAY for suiciding!

Which mobs dont drop loot? All mobs should drop loot (trashloot at least). If not, open a bug report and we will fix it. Every BG has two different xp items that drop. In addation, in CV are spots of mobs that have the highest mob type bonus of each realm when the mobs where placed (dragons, insects and reptiles).

Mon 6 May 2019 10:19 AM by Bradekes

Lillebror wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 7:51 PM
Ppl whine when they Get to much rps and CAP out of bg and ppl whine if they Get to little.

Enjoy your PvP in bg, you can have fin exping killing other players instead of this insane boring mobs.
If its means 2500 solo kill to CAP out, it sounds like a ton of fun, if not just move on or grind some mindless mobs

Wait I thought we were talking about the same game?? Apparently not because I used to play thid and molvik until I capped out... Because they were fun and it was enjoyable...

But I will just have to enjoy thid and use task rps from higher BG to get my RR I suppose

Mon 6 May 2019 4:46 PM by Estat

Uthred wrote: ↑
Mon 6 May 2019 8:13 AM
Which mobs dont drop loot? All mobs should drop loot (trashloot at least). If not, open a bug report and we will fix it. Every BG has two different xp items that drop. In addation, in CV are spots of mobs that have the highest mob type bonus of each realm when the mobs where placed (dragons, insects and reptiles).

I farmed giants in CV near alb pk until I got 20 xp loot, got no other drops.

Mon 6 May 2019 5:30 PM by majky666

Lillebror wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 7:51 PM
Ppl whine when they Get to much rps and CAP out of bg and ppl whine if they Get to little.

Enjoy your PvP in bg, you can have fin exping killing other players instead of this insane boring mobs.
If its means 2500 solo kill to CAP out, it sounds like a ton of fun, if not just move on or grind some mindless mobs

I am not complaining, just saying how much effort is needed to reach RR cap. I bet there are players, BG addicted), who realy appreciate it.

Mon 6 May 2019 6:12 PM by chryso

Luluko wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 4:26 PM
hopefully the action will get a little better in the 30+ bgs at least you have access to the good buffpots there

I thought the appeal of BGs was you don't need to be as geared/buffed.
If I have to get buff pots for BGs then I may as well play regular RVR.

Mon 6 May 2019 6:30 PM by Roto23

majky666 wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 7:39 PM
RR3 is 61750 RPS. Who the hell will try cap out Thidranki with 25rps per solo kill? It is almost 2500 kills (not counting task bonus or kck take reward)
But I am enjoying running around in Thid with my merc, when there is no "big boy" action.

Thats great news for my perma Thid character!!!!!

Mon 6 May 2019 7:06 PM by Bradekes

chryso wrote: ↑
Mon 6 May 2019 6:12 PM
I thought the appeal of BGs was you don't need to be as geared/buffed.
If I have to get buff pots for BGs then I may as well play regular RVR.

Well.. Don't let that idea fool you.. Just because you can't use the combined forces potion in thid doesn't mean there aren't individual stat pots you can use... They should remove those or raise the level with the new patch.. I think thid should be buff pot free

Mon 6 May 2019 9:18 PM by Luluko

chryso wrote: ↑
Mon 6 May 2019 6:12 PM
Luluko wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 4:26 PM
hopefully the action will get a little better in the 30+ bgs at least you have access to the good buffpots there

I thought the appeal of BGs was you don't need to be as geared/buffed.
If I have to get buff pots for BGs then I may as well play regular RVR.

the appeal is that you dont have 8man guildgrps zerging everything dead which is lesser numbers, no twf or other lvl 40+ ra's and fast action thats the appeal for me at least and I certainly wont solo without buffs. If you only play grp sure you dont need to run buffpots but if you play a class like sb or any other melee or even a solo caster you would be quite unprepared if you run against templated/buffed other people which play classes like reavers/champs/vws/minstrels/bds which are all very strong already even with lvl 39. Just imagine you have to fight something like sup bd with pd as a melee you will prolly need a good grp of 4+ to kill a decent bd. Luckily I play mid and dont have to fight those.

Mon 6 May 2019 9:22 PM by

Uthred

Estat wrote: ↑
Mon 6 May 2019 4:46 PM
Uthred wrote: ↑
Mon 6 May 2019 8:13 AM
Which mobs dont drop loot? All mobs should drop loot (trashloot at least). If not, open a bug report and we will fix it. Every BG has two different xp items that drop. In addation, in CV are spots of mobs that have the highest mob type bonus of each realm when the mobs where placed (dragons, insects and reptiles).

I farmed giants in CV near alb pk until I got 20 xp loot, got no other drops.

Just checked it and every giant i killed was dropping loot.

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If it happens again to you, please open a bug report.

Tue 7 May 2019 12:53 AM by dbeattie71

I got normal drops in each bg including the xp loot drops.

Tue 7 May 2019 1:25 AM by Munchkins

I just want to add a contrasting view. I like the change. I just wish it had come about 4 weeks sooner so my Ranger could have participated. But I'll have fun taking my other chars through there at my own leisurely pace without worrying about RPing out because I spent a day leveling in DF.

Tue 7 May 2019 6:09 AM by Lillebror

The BG turn in shouldnt be in CK.

You get farmed enough while farming the 10 items

Tue 7 May 2019 9:21 AM by Luluko

Lillebror wrote: ↑
Tue 7 May 2019 6:09 AM
The BG turn in shouldnt be in CK.

You get farmed enough while farming the 10 items

yeah more efficient to xp in the frontier really you get less ganked if you are grey to people and xp loot is also easier to farm/turn in, well I hope people stay for some pvp tho