why is nec only char with los check on maelstrom?

im am not talking about casted ra-s like pillar where the necro was able to cast it on enemies without his pet beeing attackable stuff.

The necromancer is the only class right now that needs line of sight for his gtae ra - maelstrom.

All other classes dont have a los check on their maelstroms and thornfields!. And i think that ra is far more devastating than a maelstrom where
you can simply get out off with 3 small steps!

so...nerf everone with a los check for both twf and maelstrom..!

Or at least reverse that one on nek.

Sounds fair or?

Thu 2 May 2019 2:34 PM by Xaiv

Probably because necro is the only one that can run up and place a ground target without being attacked.

Thu 2 May 2019 3:02 PM by Cruella

Xaiv wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 2:34 PM
Probably because necro is the only one that can run up and place a ground target without being attacked.

You can set your groundtarget without moving somewhere. Groundassist someone else or place it before inc.
Or just place it the normal way with x and y axis.

Its all about actually firing the RA where the necro is the only class thatneeds los to activate.

Im not talking about setting up a gt.

Thu 2 May 2019 4:30 PM by inoeth

because it got heavily abused by some necs ... so it got nerfed, thank your necro buddys

Thu 2 May 2019 4:37 PM by Anaethema

inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 4:30 PM
because it got heavily abused by some necs ... so it got nerfed, thank your necro buddys

QFT

Thu 2 May 2019 9:56 PM by Cruella

Anaethema wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 4:37 PM
inoeth wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 4:30 PM
because it got heavily abused by some necs ... so it got nerfed, thank your necro buddys

QFT

Yeah you did all the new los checks which are fine ! But you could revert the activation check pls. Just to be fair

Thu 2 May 2019 11:07 PM by Menfany

Xaiv wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 2:34 PM
Probably because necro is the only one that can run up and place a ground target without being attacked.

Just wrong.
Any char can place any GT where a necro can..

Fri 3 May 2019 6:57 AM by Sepplord

Menfany wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 11:07 PM
Xaiv wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 2:34 PM
Probably because necro is the only one that can run up and place a ground target without being attacked.

Just wrong.
Any char can place any GT where a necro can..

in theory? yes

can most people actually set groundtargets without vision in the same precision as a necro that runs to where he wants to put it?

PS: i don't think necro should have it harder to activate his GTAOE-RAs (i haven't experienced the exploits so maybe it was needed though) but let's not pretend as if necros don'T have a much easier time setting up good groundtargets (that others can also assist him on)

Fri 3 May 2019 12:58 PM by Menfany

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 6:57 AM
Menfany wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 11:07 PM
Xaiv wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 2:34 PM
Probably because necro is the only one that can run up and place a ground target without being attacked.

Just wrong.
Any char can place any GT where a necro can..

in theory? yes

can most people actually set groundtargets without vision in the same precision as a necro that runs to where he wants to put it?

PS: i don't think necro should have it harder to activate his GTAOE-RAs (i haven't experienced the exploits so maybe it was needed though) but let's not pretend as if necros don'T have a much easier time setting up good groundtargets (that others can also assist him on)

i can do it... if you cant.. its not a problem of the class "necromancer"..

..and seriously.. is it really a BIG advantage he can set a GT? just the time alone to place it,, get back to the pet.. and the situation changing.. may make it obsolete..
and its "only" Maelstrom... an RA you easily can move away from...

Fri 3 May 2019 1:10 PM by Sepplord

Menfany wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 12:58 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 6:57 AM
Menfany wrote: ↑
Thu 2 May 2019 11:07 PM
Just wrong.
Any char can place any GT where a necro can..

in theory? yes

can most people actually set groundtargets without vision in the same precision as a necro that runs to where he wants to put it?

PS: i don't think necro should have it harder to activate his GTAOE-RAs (i haven't experienced the exploits so maybe it was needed though) but let's not pretend as if necros don'T have a much easier time setting up good groundtargets (that others can also assist him on)
i can do it... if you cant.. its not a problem of the class "necromancer"..

..and seriously.. is it really a BIG advantage he can set a GT? just the time alone to place it,, get back to the pet.. and the situation changing.. may make it obsolete..
and its "only" Maelstrom... an RA you easily can move away from...

you can do it? you can see through walls to see if enemies are more stacked left or right of the entrance? BullS!*/
You can guess GTAE's decently would be a claim i believe, but that wouldn't invalidate my comment so you had to exxaggerate. (Fits your overall comment quality though)

Fri 3 May 2019 1:14 PM by kratoxin

is why we see a increase on necros they abuse a lot of things, like mile gates etc. tried to kill one last night but he had his pet exploited into the wall /appealed of course, they need to fix something about the abuse for sure. 100% if the pet isn't there with them in sight they shouldn't be able to cast anything.

Fri 3 May 2019 1:20 PM by Sepplord

kratoxin wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 1:14 PM
is why we see a increase on necros they abuse a lot of things, like mile gates etc. tried to kill one last night but he had his pet exploited into the wall /appealed of course, they need to fix something about the abuse for sure. 100% if the pet isn't there with them in sight they shouldn't be able to cast anything.

there are several exploits that won't fix though...
when Midgard camps the milegate there are Necro going into the balcony with pet on albside....then they somehow bug their pet to them and start killing stuff, when it get's dangerous they simply jump down to albside, their pet then has to take the stairs and dies, but they are already back in (relative) safety

I didn't get good video that also showed which necro does it (there are necros up on the balcony NOT exploiting too) i'll appeal and wait....not much more that can be done. Pet-pathing is a hard to get perfect

Fri 3 May 2019 9:37 PM by Menfany

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 1:10 PM
Menfany wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 12:58 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 6:57 AM
in theory? yes

can most people actually set groundtargets without vision in the same precision as a necro that runs to where he wants to put it?

PS: i don't think necro should have it harder to activate his GTAOE-RAs (i haven't experienced the exploits so maybe it was needed though) but let's not pretend as if necros don'T have a much easier time setting up good groundtargets (that others can also assist him on)
i can do it... if you cant.. its not a problem of the class "necromancer"..

..and seriously.. is it really a BIG advantage he can set a GT? just the time alone to place it,, get back to the pet.. and the situation changing.. may make it obsolete..
and its "only" Maelstrom... an RA you easily can move away from...

you can do it? you can see through walls to see if enemies are more stacked left or right of the entrance? BullS!*/
You can guess GTAE's decently would be a claim i believe, but that wouldn't invalidate my comment so you had to exxaggerate. (Fits your overall comment quality though)

Not bullshit. Know how to play your class.
My main is a wizard.. and i can set you a GT ANYWHERE in a keep from outside and tell you how many ppl at this point via my GTAE..
To tell other player what they are able to do or not.. fits your overall comment quality too.. and i guess you are not in the position to judge other with this lack of knowledge

Sat 4 May 2019 11:28 PM by Milchschnidde

necromance is allready pretty OP in moste 1vs1 situations there arent a lot of chars who are able to selfheal themself infight... and have such a great absorb.. you cant have it all.
I guess the devs made just a "quick" nerv and they will look at the abusive issue how to balance that in future patch, but for now its like it is

Sun 5 May 2019 7:27 PM by Sepplord

Menfany wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 9:37 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 1:10 PM
Menfany wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 12:58 PM
i can do it... if you cant.. its not a problem of the class "necromancer"..

..and seriously.. is it really a BIG advantage he can set a GT? just the time alone to place it,, get back to the pet.. and the situation changing.. may make it obsolete..
and its "only" Maelstrom... an RA you easily can move away from...

you can do it? you can see through walls to see if enemies are more stacked left or right of the entrance? BullS!*/
You can guess GTAE's decently would be a claim i believe, but that wouldn't invalidate my comment so you had to exxaggerate. (Fits your overall comment quality though)

Not bullshit. Know how to play your class.
My main is a wizard.. and i can set you a GT ANYWHERE in a keep from outside and tell you how many ppl at this point via my GTAE..
To tell other player what they are able to do or not.. fits your overall comment quality too.. and i guess you are not in the position to judge other with this lack of knowledge

Moving the goalpost again, like always when someone disagrees with you. The observant reader notices though how you actually confirm that you need to cast something before knowing how many people there are. So my claim was correct, even for a GTAE-professional like you just told us you are.

Sun 5 May 2019 11:55 PM by Dariussdars

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Sun 5 May 2019 7:27 PM
Menfany wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 9:37 PM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 3 May 2019 1:10 PM
you can do it? you can see through walls to see if enemies are more stacked left or right of the entrance? BullS!*/
You can guess GTAE's decently would be a claim i believe, but that wouldn't invalidate my comment so you had to exxaggerate. (Fits your overall comment quality though)

Not bullshit. Know how to play your class.
My main is a wizard.. and i can set you a GT ANYWHERE in a keep from outside and tell you how many ppl at this point via my GTAE..
To tell other player what they are able to do or not.. fits your overall comment quality too.. and i guess you are not in the position to judge other with this lack of knowledge

Moving the goalpost again, like always when someone disagrees with you. The observant reader notices though how you actually confirm that you need to cast something before knowing how many people there are. So my claim was correct, even for a GTAE-professional like you just told us you are.

Yep, the complaint went from needing LoS to drop maelstrom to him knowing how many players he hits with his GTAE. Derp, no kidding a GTAE class can tell where to place his GTAE, because that GTAE is hitting something.