Sepplord wrote: ↑Mon 6 May 2019 11:10 AM
IF you look in the Herald hybrids have higher RR in the Top250 than lighttanks....
looking at the herald should never be done for balance discussions
First of all statistics have their own weakness, I agree 100% (maybe 99%...) on that.
But what I see on the forums is a trend to show examples, experiences, often "backed up" by "I've played the game xx years" essentially trying to portray themselves as a semi-pro DaoC player. But very rarely do I see people showing numbers to support their claims, and not screenshots of damage, but actual numbers behind backing up their claim.
Second, I look at weekly top 250, because on a server where lvl 50+temped is easy, and in a PvP game where people seek ease-mode, people will migrate to strong classes and leave weak classes. There are anomalies, and some will insist on playing a weak class, and get groups/rps simply by being a really really great player.
But the average player/human seeks the easiest route to having fun in PvP, which is winning, which means best classes.
You don't see savages being in top because of how k33wl claws are, but because they rock. Example...
Thirdly, my take has been to reverse the 1-250 numbers, so top 1 player gets 250 points, and bottom 250 gets 1 point.
Adding all numbers together across classes (summing male/female instances, in the name of equal rights...), so every one of 39 classes has a number.
Minstrel gets 2754 points, theurgist 5 points. Total numbers 31375 points.
Adding together all casters, and tanks, I get 8294 points for casters, and 7145 for tanks.
Now... I did add skalds to tanks, and I realize when looking at it that some might disagree on that, since skalds are not defined by being tanks, but by being necessary (meaning support), but the same could be said about sorcs then. I excluded minstrels because they are often used for stealth, and don't in any way fit "tank" status.
Now you can argue my method is idiotic, bad, etc... but then show me another way of showing popularity, that is not biased "I feel" "I think" etc etc...
But if you can somewhat agree on my method, then 1100 points difference is not significant enough (in my biased view) to equate to casters dominating.
On a sidenote... every class should average 804 points, the 3 assassins has 6006 points (total combined), while the 3 archer classes has a total of 1340.
THAT is a significant distorted popularity.
Top 5 are Minstrel, Infil, SB, Skald, Sorc. So stealthers take up top 3 spots.
But they are taking up about a third of your datapoints, so simply excluding them as they don't impact group-rvr is also not reasonable. etc...
