Mastery of the Arcane and high spec buffs.

I got a 50 nurt drood for the fun of it and decided to dump mastery of the arcane 7 on as well. however my red buffs seem to cap out.

So for example red spec dex and red base dex is +155 buffs while my yellow base and spec is +151 (assume this gets benefit from mastery of the arcane)

So is there a hard cap on buffs in which case mastery of the arcane seems to be for droods / clerics / shamans with sub 50 buff ?

Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:08 PM by Bradekes

Awarkle wrote: ↑
Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:00 PM
I got a 50 nurt drood for the fun of it and decided to dump mastery of the arcane 7 on as well. however my red buffs seem to cap out.

So for example red spec dex and red base dex is +155 buffs while my yellow base and spec is +151 (assume this gets benefit from mastery of the arcane)

So is there a hard cap on buffs in which case mastery of the arcane seems to be for droods / clerics / shamans with sub 50 buff ?

There is a cap..
93 for spec buffs.
62 for base buffs.
MotA is good for buffing pets and for utilizing yellow buffs

Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:14 PM by Caballo

+155 is hardcap for stat-buffs, yes (so obviously purple buffs + mota is pointless at some point! )

Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:29 PM by Ashenspire

Spec buff cap is level of your target x 1.875
Base buff cap is level target x 1.25

Stat buffs always round down.

Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:33 PM by Cruella

Caballo wrote: ↑
Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:14 PM
+155 is hardcap for stat-buffs, yes (so obviously purple buffs + mota is pointless at some point! )

Pls define "at some point". When i got a 50 buff cleric i dont need any moa? or which rank moa would be enough?

What about buffing pets? Thought there was no cap on them? Im thinking @fokus pull

Fri 26 Apr 2019 7:14 PM by Amp_Phetamine

Awarkle wrote: ↑
Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:00 PM
I got a 50 nurt drood for the fun of it and decided to dump mastery of the arcane 7 on as well. however my red buffs seem to cap out.

So for example red spec dex and red base dex is +155 buffs while my yellow base and spec is +151 (assume this gets benefit from mastery of the arcane)

So is there a hard cap on buffs in which case mastery of the arcane seems to be for droods / clerics / shamans with sub 50 buff ?

*Druid.

Fri 26 Apr 2019 7:26 PM by Ashok

Buffs on NPCs (in whichever form) are uncapped.

Fri 26 Apr 2019 9:19 PM by Caballo

Cruella wrote: ↑
Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:33 PM
Caballo wrote: ↑
Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:14 PM
+155 is hardcap for stat-buffs, yes (so obviously purple buffs + mota is pointless at some point! )

Pls define "at some point". When i got a 50 buff cleric i dont need any moa? or which rank moa would be enough?

Just give it a try and see when your buffs cap out on yourself, there are quite a few UI's which offer you the option to view where your bonuses are coming from and how the numbers are. Where is the fun in min-maxing if we would provide all the numbers possibly available? ;-)

Cruella wrote: ↑
Fri 26 Apr 2019 5:33 PM
What about buffing pets? Thought there was no cap on them? Im thinking @fokus pull

Buffs on NPCs e.g. pets- as Ashok stated - are uncapped, they add a little bit of absorb for each point. (see April 16th patchnotes for recent changes)

Fri 26 Apr 2019 10:35 PM by Auranyte

For the record you need 25% buff effectiveness(MoArcane 8) to cap out druid base yellow dex. Base yellow str can be capped with 20% buff effectivness. Yellow Spec Dex/Qui caps out around 22% so you would need MoArcane 8 to cap it. Base Yellow Con and Spec yellow Str/Con can not be capped even with MoArcane 9, so for those 2 buffs you need to use the red version. Likewise red Acuity is also unable to be capped with MoArcane 9.

I believe the numbers stay the same for all base buffs across the 3 realms. Specs, however vary between Druid/Shaman/Cleric.