phixion wrote: ↑Tue 30 Apr 2019 5:22 PM
Saroi wrote: ↑Tue 30 Apr 2019 4:08 PM
Apparently not because I never hit someone that low and got that high hits. What Rangers you talking about? And about NS, even Boomslang and Xann who are rr9 didn't out damage me. Or did that damage. They were about 150-157 Mainhand while I did about 135-145. Xann is the only NS that was able to kill me 1v1 but I killed him too. Happened a few times, nice draw fights.
When I fought Barbaz, ranger (Who said you vanished from him today). I did 127 Doublefrost damage and he hit me for 137-147 damage. But I had poison on me because I killed a NS before Barbaz attacked me. THe only Ranger I did low damage was vs. Alcohol. I did around 90-100 damage but he hit me for around 80 damage. That was a weird low damage fight.
There will always be a 20% dmg spread vs blade shades. There's no skirting around that fact. If they aren't hitting harder they are doing something wrong.
When it comes to rangers, the abs on their armor means you hit for less. I often hit them for below 100 mainhand, yet they hit me for 160+.
Then there's offhand swing chance, yes LA always swings, but look at how often CD or DW doesn't...
LA Mainhand got buffed from 62,5% to 77,3% in Beta and the offhand got lowered from 62,5% to 52,5%. On one patch in march they buffed CD/DW hitchance and buffed the damage from LA offhand. So basically they returned the offhand nerf in Beta and still kept LA Mainhand buff.
Now, 20% damage spread doesn't mean the damage difference is 20%. You has a SB just hit for 10% less than your normal damage, while NS hits for 10% more than his normal damage.
If you get in the factor, that your Mainhand already got buffed and LA styles having higher Growth Rate for better style damage, then it makes up for it.
So I don't know exactly what you are up against or doing, but I never had such big difference in damage.
I just made a NS for fun, got my 100% Temp, running around with Str/Con, d/q and AF charge. Now I am only rr4, so I lack in Aug Str. which is totally needed with base 40 str as a hib.
But I've seen some SB's hitting me for around 140-180 Mainhand damage (from Doublefrost to Evade chain) and offhand doing around 40-45 damage. That is pretty much what I do with my SB vs. other NS. So it is possible to hit hard as a SB vs NS, dispite that you do 10% less damage because of the armor. Now for Scale. When the event was open, I had some fights vs other SB's like Trellina, Dandere. My Doublefrost did around 185-190 damage. If you factor in, that that is 10% more damage, the normal damage would be 168 damage. 10% less damage from that is around 150. So it is reasonable and possible to hit NS for around 150 damage.
While DW surely hits more, because Inf have 2.5 skillpoints and if specced to 50 they get around 80% Hitchance (if there is no Cap), NS and even Rangers don't get the chance to go very high in CD, so they are stuck at 20-30 points in CD. So the Hitchance is around 55-65% Offhand.
gg^^