Ranger Stealth - Phoenix Freeshard

Ok, so making a new Shar Ranger since my Luri is getting shelved for now.
Problem I was having, with Luri is with comp 50 stealth I was getting PA'd without really ever seeing the sin until too late.
Just wondering if anyone has experimented with say 45 stealth, I know no additional detection range, but was thinking with faster movement? Maybe they don't get in position fast enough like they do now and maybe i avoid some PA's?

Or, not worth it.
Was considering
39 blades 44 cd 45 stealth 22 bow.

Thu 4 Apr 2019 7:10 PM by Logan17

Main issue is that assassins are getting see hidden which doubles stealth detection radius. Archers don't have that, which results in those surprise pa's

Fri 5 Apr 2019 2:03 AM by waffel

Why not wait til this weekend when you can race respec?

Fri 5 Apr 2019 6:57 AM by Mauriac

cere2 wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 7:04 PM
Ok, so making a new Shar Ranger since my Luri is getting shelved for now.
Problem I was having, with Luri is with comp 50 stealth I was getting PA'd without really ever seeing the sin until too late.
Just wondering if anyone has experimented with say 45 stealth, I know no additional detection range, but was thinking with faster movement? Maybe they don't get in position fast enough like they do now and maybe i avoid some PA's?

Or, not worth it.
Was considering
39 blades 44 cd 45 stealth 22 bow.

I'd say don't do it. The speed won't help you but it will gimp your damage output. Try a race respec and talk to some of the blade Rangers out there that do well. Also got into a fight with a hybrid elf Ranger earlier and we both died. Granted I was missing red buffs but still he got my rps fair and square.

There are a couple ways to make it work. High stealth spec not it though

Fri 5 Apr 2019 7:37 AM by Tillbeast

I tried it with my hunter when he first hit 50. Its was kind of a double edged sword. Any assassin who tried sneak up on me from behind usually had to break stealth to catch me but I was too low rr at time to have the offensive RA's to take advantage but any assassin who was in front of you was even harder to avoid if you were moving due to your increased speed giving you less time to react. Think its a good idea if you go full melee hunter/ranger with some RR behind you and go lots of IP, purge and extra melee orientated dps RA's but a at low rr or as bow/hybrid spec I not sure it is worth it.

Fri 5 Apr 2019 4:09 PM by cere2

Kinda figured as much. Maybe someday range detection will get fixed and avoiding a PA won't be such an issue.
For now, guess I'll just stay at the PK until purge is up again as per usual..

Sun 7 Apr 2019 3:00 PM by dbeattie71

cere2 wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 7:04 PM
Ok, so making a new Shar Ranger since my Luri is getting shelved for now.
Problem I was having, with Luri is with comp 50 stealth I was getting PA'd without really ever seeing the sin until too late.
Just wondering if anyone has experimented with say 45 stealth, I know no additional detection range, but was thinking with faster movement? Maybe they don't get in position fast enough like they do now and maybe i avoid some PA's?

Or, not worth it.
Was considering
39 blades 44 cd 45 stealth 22 bow.

My spec:
I made a Shar, +15str +10 con
50 PF, 39 blades, 36stealth, 22 cd, rest bow

Galla BP and rest is MP armor with all ablative. If purge and IP are up I can eat a PA so I don’t worry about it now. The speed buff and spring t is almost speed 5 so you can burst move around it’s also nice for running down runners.

Mon 8 Apr 2019 2:46 PM by cere2

dbeattie71 wrote: ↑
Sun 7 Apr 2019 3:00 PM
cere2 wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 7:04 PM
Ok, so making a new Shar Ranger since my Luri is getting shelved for now.
Problem I was having, with Luri is with comp 50 stealth I was getting PA'd without really ever seeing the sin until too late.
Just wondering if anyone has experimented with say 45 stealth, I know no additional detection range, but was thinking with faster movement? Maybe they don't get in position fast enough like they do now and maybe i avoid some PA's?

Or, not worth it.
Was considering
39 blades 44 cd 45 stealth 22 bow.

My spec:
I made a Shar, +15str +10 con
50 PF, 39 blades, 36stealth, 22 cd, rest bow

Galla BP and rest is MP armor with all ablative. If purge and IP are up I can eat a PA so I don’t worry about it now. The speed buff and spring t is almost speed 5 so you can burst move around it’s also nice for running down runners.

Interesting. With 75 dex/quick 75 str/con and Epic chest spec AF, I didn't even consider PF as having much value...what value Str, dex/quick and spec AF are you seeing with 50 PF? I know what the value is shown on char planner, but wondering if the casts are higher than what is shown?

Mon 8 Apr 2019 4:24 PM by Mura

Should be 1.25x delve value since they're spec buffs, but I don't play a archer I can confirm that with here.

Mon 8 Apr 2019 5:25 PM by dbeattie71

Mura wrote: ↑
Mon 8 Apr 2019 4:24 PM
Should be 1.25x delve value since they're spec buffs, but I don't play a archer I can confirm that with here.

That’s correct, 1.25 of delve.

So 50 str = 62.

With buffs and RAs I’m at 319str. Str/con debuff, pssshht, don’t care lol.

If RAs are up and SB or inf doesn’t land a crit they won’t win 99% of the time, that’s why they vanish all the time. I’ve won one we’re purge was down and got PA/CD and pulled it out vs a kobo SB.

Mon 8 Apr 2019 5:37 PM by cere2

Hmm, still with using charges it doesn't seem like a good investment. But permanent damage add could make a big diff I guess. Also, wouldn't have to farm so much to keep charges up.

And yeah I know if purge/IP is up, there is a "chance" to win if PA'd. But, only vs low rr sins. Any decent sin that lands PA/CD on you....you aint walking away from that battle.

Mon 8 Apr 2019 5:55 PM by dbeattie71

cere2 wrote: ↑
Mon 8 Apr 2019 5:37 PM
Hmm, still with using charges it doesn't seem like a good investment. But permanent damage add could make a big diff I guess. Also, wouldn't have to farm so much to keep charges up.

And yeah I know if purge/IP is up, there is a "chance" to win if PA'd. But, only vs low rr sins. Any decent sin that lands PA/CD on you....you aint walking away from that battle.

I use s/c charge, they stack. And yeah, I’ve been perfed, no CD vs a high rr inf and still won, barley. Remember, you have 3 heals, one not effected by disease and I have around 1800 hits.

I need to fix this video, its one I was using to learn how to edit vids but it gives you an idea of how much abuse a build like this can take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBObAsgSQ_w&feature=youtu.be

Mon 8 Apr 2019 6:56 PM by semadin

dbeattie71 wrote: ↑
Mon 8 Apr 2019 5:55 PM
cere2 wrote: ↑
Mon 8 Apr 2019 5:37 PM
Hmm, still with using charges it doesn't seem like a good investment. But permanent damage add could make a big diff I guess. Also, wouldn't have to farm so much to keep charges up.

And yeah I know if purge/IP is up, there is a "chance" to win if PA'd. But, only vs low rr sins. Any decent sin that lands PA/CD on you....you aint walking away from that battle.

I use s/c charge, they stack. And yeah, I’ve been perfed, no CD vs a high rr inf and still won, barley. Remember, you have 3 heals, one not effected by disease and I have around 1800 hits.

I need to fix this video, its one I was using to learn how to edit vids but it gives you an idea of how much abuse a build like this can take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBObAsgSQ_w&feature=youtu.be

Which heal isn't affected by disease?

Mon 8 Apr 2019 6:56 PM by dbeattie71

semadin wrote: ↑
Mon 8 Apr 2019 6:56 PM
dbeattie71 wrote: ↑
Mon 8 Apr 2019 5:55 PM
cere2 wrote: ↑
Mon 8 Apr 2019 5:37 PM
Hmm, still with using charges it doesn't seem like a good investment. But permanent damage add could make a big diff I guess. Also, wouldn't have to farm so much to keep charges up.

And yeah I know if purge/IP is up, there is a "chance" to win if PA'd. But, only vs low rr sins. Any decent sin that lands PA/CD on you....you aint walking away from that battle.

I use s/c charge, they stack. And yeah, I’ve been perfed, no CD vs a high rr inf and still won, barley. Remember, you have 3 heals, one not effected by disease and I have around 1800 hits.

I need to fix this video, its one I was using to learn how to edit vids but it gives you an idea of how much abuse a build like this can take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBObAsgSQ_w&feature=youtu.be

Which heal isn't affected by disease?

IP2?

edit: not really classified as a heal I guess, I should have specified

Thu 11 Apr 2019 4:43 AM by Niget

cere2 wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 7:04 PM
Ok, so making a new Shar Ranger since my Luri is getting shelved for now.
Problem I was having, with Luri is with comp 50 stealth I was getting PA'd without really ever seeing the sin until too late.
Just wondering if anyone has experimented with say 45 stealth, I know no additional detection range, but was thinking with faster movement? Maybe they don't get in position fast enough like they do now and maybe i avoid some PA's?

Or, not worth it.
Was considering
39 blades 44 cd 45 stealth 22 bow.

I have tried many different specs in 50 rvr.
I run 25 stealth.
There is little to no detection different between that and composite that I can tell.
Just slower stealth speed.
39 blades 18 cd 25 stealth 46 pf 37 bow is what I landed at.

Thu 11 Apr 2019 7:02 AM by Leandrys

37 bow. Ok.

Thu 11 Apr 2019 1:48 PM by Dominus

I respecd from Luri to Shar, and now just RR5L1. Current build is 35 Stealth, 35 bow, 40 blades, 37 path (for yellow dmg add) and rest in CD. I'm running charged dex/qui and str/con. I tested for fun 50 base strength and the movement speed was nice. I also seems to not break stealth on crit-shot (50+15) either, but maybe just luck.

I did a lot of testing on beta on bow damage and will never go above 35 bow unless they change something.. the difference in damage just is not worth the points spent.