Starting new players in a town with no class trainers... Why?

I started a warden

I dropped into Connla
searched 10 mins for a trainer to turn in eggs
got bored
quit

cya

Thu 4 Apr 2019 6:56 PM by Amp_Phetamine

You're trolling... right? You can teleport to just about every single "necessary" location on the server.

Thu 4 Apr 2019 7:07 PM by Wasted_Content

I actually brought this up when I first started - why not just drop players into the main newbie starting towns? All you do is force people to hop on a horse and ride to somewhere with a porter...literally pointless.

Thu 4 Apr 2019 7:10 PM by Amp_Phetamine

But.... I mean..... is it really that inconvenient?

Thu 4 Apr 2019 7:42 PM by Roto23

theslaughter wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 6:54 PM
I started a warden

I dropped into Connla
searched 10 mins for a trainer to turn in eggs
got bored
quit

cya

Can I have your stuff?

Thu 4 Apr 2019 8:12 PM by Bradekes

My biggest issue with trainers in the towns is that it seems they wasted a lot of time putting in all these pointless trainer when they could just put in master trainer

Fri 5 Apr 2019 5:34 AM by Signus

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 8:12 PM
My biggest issue with trainers in the towns is that it seems they wasted a lot of time putting in all these pointless trainer when they could just put in master trainer

Yeah, let's make the game world even MORE arcadey, homogeneous, and feel like an afterthought!

Fri 5 Apr 2019 5:44 AM by Sepplord

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 8:12 PM
My biggest issue with trainers in the towns is that it seems they wasted a lot of time putting in all these pointless trainer when they could just put in master trainer

if they took out all pointless NPCs the world would be really, really empty

Fri 5 Apr 2019 7:28 AM by Halma

Well, you could just have asked in the advice channel like a normal person would. Then someone would have told you that the warden trainer is at the bridge (I think). Weird spot for him though

Or you could have teleported to any other location for a trainer.

But if this experience lets you rage quit I think we can easily live without you. /wave

Fri 5 Apr 2019 7:43 AM by Sepplord

The starting spots were spread over the world to spread the population when the server started

having everyone log in at the same spots might have caused troubles, at least considering the mobs-density comapred to the masses of people wanting to club stuff to death

Fri 5 Apr 2019 10:22 AM by Bradekes

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 5 Apr 2019 5:44 AM
if they took out all pointless NPCs the world would be really, really empty

There's hardly such a thing as a pointless npc.. Most NPC are either a merchant or were tied to a quest/questline.. The flood of trainers all looking the exact same in every town doesn't really bring immersion IMO..

Fri 5 Apr 2019 10:44 AM by Sepplord

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Fri 5 Apr 2019 10:22 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 5 Apr 2019 5:44 AM
if they took out all pointless NPCs the world would be really, really empty

There's hardly such a thing as a pointless npc.. Most NPC are either a merchant or were tied to a quest/questline.. The flood of trainers all looking the exact same in every town doesn't really bring immersion IMO..

99% of NPC merchants are just as pointless as individual class trainer NPCs are though...and that was the comparison

Fri 5 Apr 2019 10:53 AM by Bradekes

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 5 Apr 2019 10:44 AM
99% of NPC merchants are just as pointless as individual class trainer NPCs are though...and that was the comparison

Yes that's true but they aren't lined up in a row and all look the exact same in every town.. I'm all for immersion but currently the trainer setup hurts it more than helps... A master trainer would atleast make it easier especially because some towns are missing certain trainers for no reason.. /train doesn't allow respec and is essentially a master trainer in every other regard...

I like npc if they are thought out.. Even being pointless but are making the town look alive is welcome but the plethora of clone unnecessary trainers doesn't give those qualities...

Also I don't care enough to argue just my thoughts

Fri 5 Apr 2019 11:03 AM by Sepplord

Bradekes wrote: ↑
Fri 5 Apr 2019 10:53 AM
Sepplord wrote: ↑
Fri 5 Apr 2019 10:44 AM
99% of NPC merchants are just as pointless as individual class trainer NPCs are though...and that was the comparison

Yes that's true but they aren't lined up in a row and all look the exact same in every town.. I'm all for immersion but currently the trainer setup hurts it more than helps... A master trainer would atleast make it easier especially because some towns are missing certain trainers for no reason.. /train doesn't allow respec and is essentially a master trainer in every other regard...

I like npc if they are thought out.. Even being pointless but are making the town look alive is welcome but the plethora of clone unnecessary trainers doesn't give those qualities...

Also I don't care enough to argue just my thoughts

no hard feelings, i didn't feel like we were arguing

Maybe i haven't experienced the really "bad" locations where that happens. The only one that i can think of that sounds like that would be in mularn. But even then not ALL trainers are simply lined up besides each other. The sneaks for example are somewhere else, at their own little house, etc...

And in Jordheim or Gna they are all over the place

Is it different (worse) in other realms?

Fri 5 Apr 2019 1:32 PM by Ardri

theslaughter wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 6:54 PM
I started a warden

I dropped into Connla
searched 10 mins for a trainer to turn in eggs
got bored
quit

cya

Bye felicia.

Fri 5 Apr 2019 4:31 PM by Bradekes

theslaughter wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 6:54 PM
I started a warden

I dropped into Connla
searched 10 mins for a trainer to turn in eggs
got bored
quit

cya

On a second note, you can just turn in eggs at any trainer

Fri 5 Apr 2019 11:28 PM by jhaerik

Signus wrote: ↑
Fri 5 Apr 2019 5:34 AM
Bradekes wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Apr 2019 8:12 PM
My biggest issue with trainers in the towns is that it seems they wasted a lot of time putting in all these pointless trainer when they could just put in master trainer

Yeah, let's make the game world even MORE arcadey, homogeneous, and feel like an afterthought!

So in line with every other Phoenix custom change?

Sat 6 Apr 2019 6:29 AM by

Uthred

1. Ask in adivce
2. You can turn in eggs at any trainer
3. Connla has been always a starting town (since live)
4. Google it:

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Or you just quit and tell everyone how bad this server is. Good job on that.