Gaming Laptop for DAoC 2019

Started 19 Mar 2019
by Durgrim
in Support Center
Good morning folks,

I'm about buying a gaming laptop. Anyone has a recommendation particularly for playing DAoC? From what I have read, several laptops have problems running daoc smoothly.
Anyone using a 2018/2019 Gaming Laptop here?
Any other advise in connection with my plans?



M.
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:18 AM by Ceen
I have a notebook from 2009 which runs DAoC fine, 1000 € since I tested it for 10 years, it's working.
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:33 AM by Civer
Gameboy with SSD Harddrive.
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:39 AM by Durgrim
Ceen wrote:
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:18 AM
I have a notebook from 2009 which runs DAoC fine, 1000 € since I tested it for 10 years, it's working.

I searched for "Notebook from 2009' and found nothing to buy on amazon....
Maybe you want to specify
Tue 19 Mar 2019 9:24 AM by Sepplord
(as i know you are from germany) try looking for old medion laptops that were sold via Aldi promotions...
i had one that i bought over 10years ago, at that time it was 150€ and already over a year old.
it ran DAoC just fine (although i never ran a 400people TG with it )

in general medion PC/Laptops have a great bang for your buck...i wouldn't recommend them for up2date gaming but for shortterm gaming sessions during travel they are fine
Tue 19 Mar 2019 9:53 AM by dudis
You pay a pretty big premium for a gaming laptop. Just make sure you dont go too cheap and buy something completely underpowered. Buy a used gaming laptop or something instead.

If you are only interested in daoc, go for a good CPU with adequate graphics.

If you want something new, Intel 8750 H is a high-end mobile-CPU and the 1060 6gb is still a good card that can run anything you throw at it today. A 1050 ti will be more than fine for DAoC though and good enough for games like Fortnite, CSGO etc.

These look like pretty good deals to me.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834316435 (low storage with no HDD though)
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154829

If you want a better GPU for newer games, get something like the new 1660 ti or RTX 2060.
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:15 PM by Rgil
I'm playing on an Omen i7 laptop gtx 965 video card and I'm running it at full settings with no stutters or anything. Keep in mind though i have only done thid bg a few times.
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:50 PM by alusnova415
Honestly any laptop with a decent CPU will run daoc , I used a dell i5 and Intel 630 integrated GPU and it ran everything at 1080p no issues, with that said if you are looking for a gaming laptop it really depends on your budget. As some have said if you want it just for daoc then you don't need a beast (intel GPU will do fine) but if you want to play newer games then at a minimum you want 1060 card.

One thing to remember that gaming laptops with dedicated gpu's will get hot (daoc will not make the laptop hot) but any other game it will , expect to play in the 90c range. Also expect to pay $800+ for a 1060 laptop $1000+ for the ones with gsync, high color gamut ips panel, 75hz,etc. I recommend re-applying liquid metal paste and thermal pads vs whatever your laptop came with , this will improve the thermals and most usually see a decrease of 20c (gaming at 70c is considered great for laptops). I did it it was easy but a bit tedious to clean all the old paste , you will not regret it.

Lastly I recommend Ebay, you can find 15in 1060 laptops around $550-600 , a lot cheaper than new ones , I got a great deal got a 17in, 100hz , 1060 , ips for $650 (usually sells for $900+ on Ebay because of the size).
Wed 20 Mar 2019 1:06 PM by dbeattie71
I have a MSI GS65.
Wed 20 Mar 2019 1:22 PM by dudis
alusnova415 wrote:
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:50 PM
One thing to remember that gaming laptops with dedicated gpu's will get hot (daoc will not make the laptop hot) but any other game it will , expect to play in the 90c range. Also expect to pay $800+ for a 1060 laptop $1000+ for the ones with gsync, high color gamut ips panel, 75hz,etc. I recommend re-applying liquid metal paste and thermal pads vs whatever your laptop came with , this will improve the thermals and most usually see a decrease of 20c (gaming at 70c is considered great for laptops). I did it it was easy but a bit tedious to clean all the old paste , you will not regret it.

I absolutely agree about re-pasting.

My laptop is a 3 year old i7 6700HQ with a desktop 1060 6gb and it dropped 20C during load while also being a lot quieter AND boosting to higher mhz. I didn't even use liquid metal but instead opted for Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut which seems to be the top performer of non-conductive products atm.

Another thing you should do as most laptop CPUs aren't overclockable, is to Undervolt your CPU.

My i7 6700HQ runs at minus 0.175 mv perfectly stable and the temperature difference is huge. CPU very rarely exceeds 55C or so even during heavy loads for extended times, and my fans barely spin up. I recommend Throttlestop for this purpose.
Wed 20 Mar 2019 2:49 PM by Durgrim
dbeattie71 wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 1:06 PM
I have a MSI GS65.

and everything smooth, even epic dungeon etc?
Wed 20 Mar 2019 3:20 PM by dbeattie71
Durgrim wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 2:49 PM
dbeattie71 wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 1:06 PM
I have a MSI GS65.

and everything smooth, even epic dungeon etc?

Yeah, it handles Far Cry with no problems. Battery life isn’t great but I didn’t get it for that.
Wed 20 Mar 2019 3:22 PM by Durgrim
dbeattie71 wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 3:20 PM
Durgrim wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 2:49 PM
dbeattie71 wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 1:06 PM
I have a MSI GS65.

and everything smooth, even epic dungeon etc?

Yeah, it handles Far Cry with no problems. Battery life isn’t great but I didn’t get it for that.

Thanks beattie!
Since I am only playing daoc, I need a laptop solely for this and I do not want to have a stutter-/lagfest during tg runs
Wed 20 Mar 2019 5:57 PM by dbeattie71
Durgrim wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 3:22 PM
dbeattie71 wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 3:20 PM
Durgrim wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 2:49 PM
and everything smooth, even epic dungeon etc?

Yeah, it handles Far Cry with no problems. Battery life isn’t great but I didn’t get it for that.

Thanks beattie!
Since I am only playing daoc, I need a laptop solely for this and I do not want to have a stutter-/lagfest during tg runs

Np, I really spent my time researching. It needed to be able to run VisualStduio and some other things too. On top of that it has a disco light keyboard 😀
Thu 21 Mar 2019 9:28 AM by alusnova415
dudis wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 1:22 PM
alusnova415 wrote:
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:50 PM
One thing to remember that gaming laptops with dedicated gpu's will get hot (daoc will not make the laptop hot) but any other game it will , expect to play in the 90c range. Also expect to pay $800+ for a 1060 laptop $1000+ for the ones with gsync, high color gamut ips panel, 75hz,etc. I recommend re-applying liquid metal paste and thermal pads vs whatever your laptop came with , this will improve the thermals and most usually see a decrease of 20c (gaming at 70c is considered great for laptops). I did it it was easy but a bit tedious to clean all the old paste , you will not regret it.

I absolutely agree about re-pasting.

My laptop is a 3 year old i7 6700HQ with a desktop 1060 6gb and it dropped 20C during load while also being a lot quieter AND boosting to higher mhz. I didn't even use liquid metal but instead opted for Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut which seems to be the top performer of non-conductive products atm.

Another thing you should do as most laptop CPUs aren't overclockable, is to Undervolt your CPU.

My i7 6700HQ runs at minus 0.175 mv perfectly stable and the temperature difference is huge. CPU very rarely exceeds 55C or so even during heavy loads for extended times, and my fans barely spin up. I recommend Throttlestop for this purpose.


Yes i did not go into advanced details but for anyone that might not be aware and is gaming on a laptop or thinking of buying one you should do these 4 things:

1. Re-Paste your CPU and GPU with Liquid Metal Paste ( should decrease 8c-15c)
2. Undervolt your CPU (your cpu should see 10c minimum drop)
3. Undervolt you GPU (should see 10c avg drop)
4. Buy a cooling pad (will not have as high impact on temps but will drop by 2-3c, however this makes it easier to put on your lap if in bed , rises the laptop for better airflow too , etc. Now you can buy one with fan control where you can rise the fan rpm to max, I have 2 cooling pads one with fan control and when I raise the fan to max I see at least 10c drop but fan is loud, basically I use it during the summer when is hot and the other one with quiett quiet rpm setting other months.

After these you should be gaming in the 65-75c CPU and GPU 70-75c avg, with these steps DAOC on my laptop runs between 45-50 for both cpu and gpu , basically like if it was idle.
Thu 21 Mar 2019 10:53 AM by Ceen
alusnova415 wrote:
Thu 21 Mar 2019 9:28 AM
dudis wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 1:22 PM
alusnova415 wrote:
Tue 19 Mar 2019 7:50 PM
One thing to remember that gaming laptops with dedicated gpu's will get hot (daoc will not make the laptop hot) but any other game it will , expect to play in the 90c range. Also expect to pay $800+ for a 1060 laptop $1000+ for the ones with gsync, high color gamut ips panel, 75hz,etc. I recommend re-applying liquid metal paste and thermal pads vs whatever your laptop came with , this will improve the thermals and most usually see a decrease of 20c (gaming at 70c is considered great for laptops). I did it it was easy but a bit tedious to clean all the old paste , you will not regret it.

I absolutely agree about re-pasting.

My laptop is a 3 year old i7 6700HQ with a desktop 1060 6gb and it dropped 20C during load while also being a lot quieter AND boosting to higher mhz. I didn't even use liquid metal but instead opted for Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut which seems to be the top performer of non-conductive products atm.

Another thing you should do as most laptop CPUs aren't overclockable, is to Undervolt your CPU.

My i7 6700HQ runs at minus 0.175 mv perfectly stable and the temperature difference is huge. CPU very rarely exceeds 55C or so even during heavy loads for extended times, and my fans barely spin up. I recommend Throttlestop for this purpose.


Yes i did not go into advanced details but for anyone that might not be aware and is gaming on a laptop or thinking of buying one you should do these 4 things:

1. Re-Paste your CPU and GPU with Liquid Metal Paste ( should decrease 8c-15c)
2. Undervolt your CPU (your cpu should see 10c minimum drop)
3. Undervolt you GPU (should see 10c avg drop)
4. Buy a cooling pad (will not have as high impact on temps but will drop by 2-3c, however this makes it easier to put on your lap if in bed , rises the laptop for better airflow too , etc. Now you can buy one with fan control where you can rise the fan rpm to max, I have 2 cooling pads one with fan control and when I raise the fan to max I see at least 10c drop but fan is loud, basically I use it during the summer when is hot and the other one with quiett quiet rpm setting other months.

After these you should be gaming in the 65-75c CPU and GPU 70-75c avg, with these steps DAOC on my laptop runs between 45-50 for both cpu and gpu , basically like if it was idle.
Buy a gaming laptop.
Cut the performance by undervolting.
Destroy warranty by applying new paste.
Feel like beeing a hardcore tech guy.
Thu 21 Mar 2019 12:16 PM by dudis
Ceen wrote:
Thu 21 Mar 2019 10:53 AM
Buy a gaming laptop.
Cut the performance by undervolting.
Destroy warranty by applying new paste.
Feel like beeing a hardcore tech guy.

You dont cut the performance by undervolting, you simply find the lowest possible voltage that your device can run at with its current performance, making it run cooler. My CPUs clockspeed is locked either way.

I cant argue with voiding warranty, but i'd argue that it's worth it for a quieter and better performing PC if you are comfortable with tinkering a bit.

I am not able to adjust the voltage of my GPU but I've overclocked my GTX 1060 200mhz core and 500(x2) mhz memory and temperatures are still way better than before because of the better paste.
Thu 21 Mar 2019 5:19 PM by alusnova415
Ceen wrote:
Thu 21 Mar 2019 10:53 AM
alusnova415 wrote:
Thu 21 Mar 2019 9:28 AM
dudis wrote:
Wed 20 Mar 2019 1:22 PM
I absolutely agree about re-pasting.

My laptop is a 3 year old i7 6700HQ with a desktop 1060 6gb and it dropped 20C during load while also being a lot quieter AND boosting to higher mhz. I didn't even use liquid metal but instead opted for Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut which seems to be the top performer of non-conductive products atm.

Another thing you should do as most laptop CPUs aren't overclockable, is to Undervolt your CPU.

My i7 6700HQ runs at minus 0.175 mv perfectly stable and the temperature difference is huge. CPU very rarely exceeds 55C or so even during heavy loads for extended times, and my fans barely spin up. I recommend Throttlestop for this purpose.


Yes i did not go into advanced details but for anyone that might not be aware and is gaming on a laptop or thinking of buying one you should do these 4 things:

1. Re-Paste your CPU and GPU with Liquid Metal Paste ( should decrease 8c-15c)
2. Undervolt your CPU (your cpu should see 10c minimum drop)
3. Undervolt you GPU (should see 10c avg drop)
4. Buy a cooling pad (will not have as high impact on temps but will drop by 2-3c, however this makes it easier to put on your lap if in bed , rises the laptop for better airflow too , etc. Now you can buy one with fan control where you can rise the fan rpm to max, I have 2 cooling pads one with fan control and when I raise the fan to max I see at least 10c drop but fan is loud, basically I use it during the summer when is hot and the other one with quiett quiet rpm setting other months.

After these you should be gaming in the 65-75c CPU and GPU 70-75c avg, with these steps DAOC on my laptop runs between 45-50 for both cpu and gpu , basically like if it was idle.
Buy a gaming laptop.
Cut the performance by undervolting.
Destroy warranty by applying new paste.
Feel like beeing a hardcore tech guy.

To answer your passive aggressive non useful comments :

Look at my original post I told the OP be prepared to game in the 90c range, I build my PC to be quiet and cool (water cooled both GPU and cpu) and when I got my laptop I knew they get hot but 90c is something I couldn't bear. With a simple solution like re-pasting with better paste and if you knew that undervolting actually improves performance on laptops because it stops throttling and at the same time lowers your temperature then is all worth it, you dont undervolt to the point where you cut your performance.
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