Make MoC Great Again - Phoenix Freeshard

75% for 30 points is a joke.

Level 1: 20%
Level 2: 40%
Level 3: 60%
Level 4: 80%
Level 5: 100%

Please consider this scaling instead of the current one.

Sun 17 Mar 2019 3:05 PM by Yokahu

Frigzy wrote: ↑
Sun 17 Mar 2019 1:57 PM
75% for 30 points is a joke.

Level 1: 20%
Level 2: 40%
Level 3: 60%
Level 4: 80%
Level 5: 100%

Please consider this scaling instead of the current one.

I agree, make it a 3 min reuse time as well

Sun 17 Mar 2019 5:56 PM by Sharky04

PBAE Moc is MUCH weaker than on classic daoc. You need los to the target it order to do damage. Keep defense became pointless with this change.

Sun 17 Mar 2019 7:41 PM by defiasbandit

Frigzy wrote: ↑
Sun 17 Mar 2019 1:57 PM
75% for 30 points is a joke.

Level 1: 20%
Level 2: 40%
Level 3: 60%
Level 4: 80%
Level 5: 100%

Please consider this scaling instead of the current one.

Yes.

Mon 18 Mar 2019 1:25 AM by Frigzy

Sharky04 wrote: ↑
Sun 17 Mar 2019 5:56 PM
PBAE Moc is MUCH weaker than on classic daoc. You need los to the target it order to do damage. Keep defense became pointless with this change.

Exactly, PBAOE is nowhere near what it used to be and now MoC is not only more than double the cost, it's also only 3/4th the value.

Mon 18 Mar 2019 1:34 AM by defiasbandit

Frigzy wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 1:25 AM
Sharky04 wrote: ↑
Sun 17 Mar 2019 5:56 PM
PBAE Moc is MUCH weaker than on classic daoc. You need los to the target it order to do damage. Keep defense became pointless with this change.

Exactly, PBAOE is nowhere near what it used to be and now MoC is not only more than double the cost, it's also only 3/4th the value.

To be fair MoC is 10 minute cooldown now. I agree it should be 100% though.

Mon 18 Mar 2019 12:39 PM by dudis

OF MoC was 15 sec duration, 30 min re-use.
NF MoC is 30 sec duration, 10 min re-use.

It is pretty great, although a hefty investment.

Mon 18 Mar 2019 2:17 PM by opossum12

Make it 100%, but reduce to 10 seconds on a 30 minute timer.

You can't have everything boys, concessions are required.

Mon 18 Mar 2019 3:06 PM by Frigzy

opossum12 wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 2:17 PM
Make it 100%, but reduce to 10 seconds on a 30 minute timer.

You can't have everything boys, concessions are required.

Nope, this would make it ridiculous to get on Shamans, Bards etc at low level.

Perhaps a split could be made between caster and support MoC though..

Tue 19 Mar 2019 12:54 AM by Aenea

opossum12 wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 2:17 PM
Make it 100%, but reduce to 10 seconds on a 30 minute timer.

You can't have everything boys, concessions are required.

Sure and also make it 14 points instead of 30 points. MoC is nerfed to the ground with new version. But hey, mids must be happy about it...

Tue 19 Mar 2019 6:45 AM by Sepplord

Frigzy wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 3:06 PM
opossum12 wrote: ↑
Mon 18 Mar 2019 2:17 PM
Make it 100%, but reduce to 10 seconds on a 30 minute timer.

You can't have everything boys, concessions are required.

Nope, this would make it ridiculous to get on Shamans, Bards etc at low level.

Perhaps a split could be made between caster and support MoC though..

having 30seconds of moc-ruppt for 5points is the ridicolous version imo...
10seconds for 5points sounds much more reasonable

Tue 19 Mar 2019 3:41 PM by Frigzy

Sepplord wrote: ↑
Tue 19 Mar 2019 6:45 AM
having 30seconds of moc-ruppt for 5points is the ridicolous version imo...
10seconds for 5points sounds much more reasonable

I'm not against scaling in duration, might be a good idea.

Tue 19 Mar 2019 4:40 PM by opossum12

Can’t have 100% moc for 30 seconds, that’s a stupid suggestion.

If you want moc at 100% (level 5), duration shouldn’t exceed 10 seconds. Don’t scale duration.

Thu 21 Mar 2019 12:34 AM by Frigzy

10 seconds moc for 30 points is a joke though, even old MoC was 15s