SO after RvRing a bit I have come to realize a few things about old style reavers. 1: If the enemy has purge you are most likely dead as they do no damage without Levi. 2: When Mythic gave them the insta snare it made a huge difference in the class viability. 3: Having your big DD/LT off a 4 part chain is close to impossible to land against stealthers (which you fight 75% of the time). And finally vs kiting classes which is super prevalent (BD/Skald/Rangers) there is no way to counter this other than trying to run away. Sad. Now go ahead with all the "git gud" keyboard hero nonsense.