Templating and Loki

Started 15 Mar 2019
by Docz
in Albion
Hi all,

I'd like a loki database xml file of Albion droppable items (like Sidi, DF, Epic, etc..) . I'd really appreciate if someone would share it or would post items' details to this post so I can make one by myself.

Thank you
Fri 15 Mar 2019 12:55 PM by Magesty
You really don’t need an item database here. Take a look at the stats for the sidi chest and any other misc items you might want to include on the merchant in Camelot. Other than ACN your items should mostly just be RoG/crafted. RoG items with 45-55+ utility are good enough to make a near perfect template for most classes. You should have a few already by the time you hit 50.
Fri 15 Mar 2019 2:02 PM by Docz
Magesty wrote:
Fri 15 Mar 2019 12:55 PM
You really don’t need an item database here. Take a look at the stats for the sidi chest and any other misc items you might want to include on the merchant in Camelot. Other than ACN your items should mostly just be RoG/crafted. RoG items with 45-55+ utility are good enough to make a near perfect template for most classes. You should have a few already by the time you hit 50.

I disagree.. doing a template like you said sounds like "play and don't waste your time trying to make the perfect template, you collect what you find and then use these items to build the template". It's more convenient knowing what you need before to farm instead of act like a drunk dumb patchworking your character with what you find on the ground.
Fri 15 Mar 2019 2:42 PM by Magesty
Docz wrote:
Fri 15 Mar 2019 2:02 PM
Magesty wrote:
Fri 15 Mar 2019 12:55 PM
You really don’t need an item database here. Take a look at the stats for the sidi chest and any other misc items you might want to include on the merchant in Camelot. Other than ACN your items should mostly just be RoG/crafted. RoG items with 45-55+ utility are good enough to make a near perfect template for most classes. You should have a few already by the time you hit 50.

I disagree.. doing a template like you said sounds like "play and don't waste your time trying to make the perfect template, you collect what you find and then use these items to build the template". It's more convenient knowing what you need before to farm instead of act like a drunk dumb patchworking your character with what you find on the ground.

I don't think you understand how powerful the RoG items are here. They far outstrip the utility you get from many of the standard 1.65 template items. The highest tier ones are well into the 75+ range. I know it is confusing at first for someone who is "high on his own supply", but let me break it down for you-- higher utility items give more stat. More stat good cuz it mean easier to make strong template.

All of the usual "named" template-quality jewelry and armor pieces you would normally want to use are readily available for your lazy ass to view in Camelot and import into whatever SC calculator yourself. Again, you are going to be able to find RoG items of equivalent statistical value for many of the jewelry slots you'd normally fill with DF/Sidi/whatever jewelry.

So, the intelligent approach in terms of both time and putting together a quality template is to determine the items you will absolutely be using in your template-- Sidi chest, perhaps a piece or two of the absolute highest util jewelry from feather merchants, and then go on raids. Throughout the course of your time raiding and farming you will most likely acquire pieces of RoG jewelry that are exceptionally powerful and will help your template making process tremendously. Put those in along with your feather purchases and ACN and then fill the remaining statistical gaps with SC'd items. Thus you have created a template that is not only very strong/perfect, but you have done it with efficiency.

I appreciate the venom in your post though, especially when it is clear you're so blinded by your perceived superiority that you cannot be bothered to help yourself or learn about the server.
Fri 15 Mar 2019 3:22 PM by Docz
Magesty wrote:
Fri 15 Mar 2019 12:55 PM
I appreciate the venom in your post though, especially when it is clear you're so blinded by your perceived superiority that you cannot be bothered to help yourself or learn about the server.

Lol it is not "venom" and I'm not considering myself superior at all, do not misunderstand please. I'ts only another point of view by a player that it is not updated with server trends and its custom features.
BTW thanks for your feedback, I'll try but honestly at the moment I prefer the old way of making templates, it seems to me to be easier to approach.

PS: get some pills cuz I guess you don't digest really well sarcasm.
Fri 15 Mar 2019 3:57 PM by antiflagdan
Because of the way itemization works on this server, it really is best to just try to get as many 50+ util accessories that have relevant stats as you can, then just fill in the gaps. It just isn't logical to try to grind enough feathers to fill it full of the items from the merchants. More trouble than it's worth! It's super easy to cap stats on here. I would suggest reading this thread.

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5898
Fri 15 Mar 2019 4:18 PM by Docz
antiflagdan wrote:
Fri 15 Mar 2019 3:57 PM
Because of the way itemization works on this server, it really is best to just try to get as many 50+ util accessories that have relevant stats as you can, then just fill in the gaps. It just isn't logical to try to grind enough feathers to fill it full of the items from the merchants. More trouble than it's worth! It's super easy to cap stats on here. I would suggest reading this thread.

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=5898

Thank you, short and concise.
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