The terms: "Stealthers", "Archers" and "Assassins"

Started 14 Mar 2019
by Emeryc
in RvR
I'd just like to make a plea to everyone who voices their opinions about these things...

Please, do not conflate these three terms. The terms mean different things:
Stealthers: Archers, Assassins and Minstrels - issues are all inclusive, such as archery, vanish, SoS, etc.
Archers: Rangers, Hunters and Scouts - issues might include critshot and range bonus from elevation, etc.
Assassins: Shadowblades, Infiltrators and Nightshades - issues may include Perforate Artery, Vanish, Viper, etc.

I've noticed that in every thread intended to be about "Archers" many people will post complaints about "Stealthers." Often times, these complaints are regarding things like Perf Artery and Vanish... these are Assassin issues, not Archer issues. When these terms are conflated, it gives the false impression that things like Vanish and Viper make Archers a balance problem when the reality is that they have nothing to do with Archers.
Thu 14 Mar 2019 11:34 PM by Wohop
So you’re worried the devs may nerf the wrong class bc they don’t understand basic game elements?
Fri 15 Mar 2019 1:28 AM by Cirath
People confuse these terms because they are typically making a QQ thread about one of the above mentioned classes, but having never played said class generally have no idea what they are talking about.
Mon 18 Mar 2019 4:12 PM by Expfighter
Emeryc wrote:
Thu 14 Mar 2019 11:10 PM
I'd just like to make a plea to everyone who voices their opinions about these things...

Please, do not conflate these three terms. The terms mean different things:
Stealthers: Archers, Assassins and Minstrels - issues are all inclusive, such as archery, vanish, SoS, etc.
Archers: Rangers, Hunters and Scouts - issues might include critshot and range bonus from elevation, etc.
Assassins: Shadowblades, Infiltrators and Nightshades - issues may include Perforate Artery, Vanish, Viper, etc.

I've noticed that in every thread intended to be about "Archers" many people will post complaints about "Stealthers." Often times, these complaints are regarding things like Perf Artery and Vanish... these are Assassin issues, not Archer issues. When these terms are conflated, it gives the false impression that things like Vanish and Viper make Archers a balance problem when the reality is that they have nothing to do with Archers.

and Mintrels are NOT stealthers, they are abominations!
Tue 19 Mar 2019 6:15 PM by DinoTriz
GM: *nerfs Archers' Perforate Artery*

OP: "See guys?! This is what I tried to warn you about!"
Sat 23 Mar 2019 10:03 PM by Emeryc
For the few trolls in here who are having trouble understanding...

https://forum.playphoenix.online/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6806
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