Champion template (need inspiration)

Started 11 Mar 2019
by Tellus
in Hibernia
Any champion who wanna post their template in this thread would be much appreciated.

I'm trying to make mine and struggling.
Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:41 PM by Keelia
No temp can be copied with all the rog
Mon 11 Mar 2019 8:52 PM by Yokahu
Sad but true, a template with even one ROG will render it useless for someone trying to copy it.

My suggestions is to ask around of what gear is a must have for Champions, then go to the market and look for items (not armor) that have 55 utility or more to buy them. You can then build your template around those items and must-haves.

I did that this weekend for my friar, it wasn’t too bad at all. Get Loki 1.4 (quick google search) and you should be good to go.
Mon 11 Mar 2019 9:16 PM by Tellus
Sadly I know about the ROGs and that I cant copy a template, I would still like to see some just to get inspiration (seeing what stats they cap and how the tweak around ROGs)
The thing about asking a fellow champ about what is a must have. I was kinda hoping one of those would write to me in this thread
Wed 13 Mar 2019 12:00 AM by Legesh
I did Galla chest/ legs/gloves , velvet lined arms.
Player crafted boots and head. Galla shield and player crafted LW... and of course a bunch of ROGs.

I’m finding the champ tough to temp (cash wise) to be honest. I’m capped in str con dex and quick 192/200 hps 44/75 int.

There are better items than what I have... but I’m happy with where my toon is at this point.

Just be wary of using ROGs in any slot that degrades, ie weapons and armor, or could end up having a tough time replacing the exact stats later.
Wed 13 Mar 2019 12:03 AM by Afuldan
Legesh wrote:
Wed 13 Mar 2019 12:00 AM
I did Galla chest/ legs/gloves , velvet lined arms.
Player crafted boots and head. Galla shield and player crafted LW... and of course a bunch of ROGs.

I’m finding the champ tough to temp (cash wise) to be honest. I’m capped in str con dex and quick 192/200 hps 44/75 int.

There are better items than what I have... but I’m happy with where my toon is at this point.

Just be wary of using ROGs in any slot that degrades, ie weapons and armor, or could end up having a tough time replacing the exact stats later.

Jewelry with +skills are to be avoided at all costs. They will not give +skill if they are 70%condition.
Wed 13 Mar 2019 1:09 PM by Tellus
Thanks for the info, it helps

made a beginners template out of 40+ utility rogs, just to start with something.

As for the jewlery and + to skills I did not know that, I'l take that into consideration
Wed 13 Mar 2019 7:15 PM by opossum12
General strategy for template:

- Galladoria chest piece for the sweet heal proc.
- Crafted 5 pieces of armor

- Try as much as possible to make it weaponless.

You want to cap :

STR
CON
QUI
Hits
Power
All resists
Melee skills
DEX (if you plan on using your shield)
Shield (if you spec 42 shield, if 50 LW/50 Valor not as important)
Parry as high as you can (would label it as nice to have if playing groups, must max it out if playing solo)
Thu 14 Mar 2019 1:25 AM by WeaselSoup
I'm going to post my template for you since you asked for one, for inspiration, and I know the feeling. This is the first time I had to make a template in like 15 years and I had completely forgotten what I was doing. It would have been a good reference to see someone else's on this server. Even if I could not have used it. As others have stated though, this is mostly ROGs and you won't be able to copy any of this.

It is a weaponless template though with everything except power maxed. Blades/shield are maxed via crafted 1h sword/shield. There are some items I disagree with most players on regarding champion templates/builds, and it's reflected in my choices:

1. Valor is not completely useless and gives ~10% damage to your DD. It's not a ton but It's more valuable than 25 power which isn't even enough to cast a single spell. Both are getting to the point of splitting hairs though and only worth it if you want to min-max and have the plat to spare.

2. Slam build on champion is complete garbage, especially on this server, with how good debuffs are. If you go slam you're just a shitty hero. Max what makes the champ special and that's your debuffs/valor.
- If you think by dropping slam you lack a 9s stun then it's time to learn to backstun. When I miss an annihilation it's me playing poorly and not a poor build decision. Plus slam misses a shit-ton due to no hit bonus and poor melee hit chance on this server anyway. Many times a groupmate will be missing slams and I get the annihilation off before them due to bad rng on the slam. Plus if you stun with anni you get an 'extra' annihilation in your stun window by virtue of opening with an annihilate. You may or may not agree with that thought process.

3. Make sure you include an item with a DD charge in your template. Many people don't mention that but IMO it's just as required as a Galla chest. The third interrupt will save you many times versus casters or in group situations.


Anyway, here you go:

LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 969.7
Useable Utility: 948.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Statistics
STR:75/75 CON:76/75 DEX:76/75
QUI:76/75 INT:76/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:204/200
Power:0/25
AF:0/50

Resistances
Body: 28
Cold: 26
Heat: 27
Energy: 27+5
Matter: 26
Spirit: 26
Crush: 30+5
Slash: 27
Thrust: 26

Skills
Valor: 11
Blades: 5
Blunt: 5
Piercing: 5
Large Weaponry: 11
Shield: 3
Parry: 11
Staff: 5

Bonuses

Chest (Bladed Crystal Chestpiece):
Imbue: 35.0
3 Parry
3 Shield
21 Strength
27 Constitution
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Intelligence
19 Constitution
19 Dexterity
4 Valor
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
5% Matter
3 Valor
15% Cold
1 Parry
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
28 Quickness
13 Strength
28 Hits
11% Thrust
Utility: 56.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
5% Energy
6 Large Weaponry
5% Slash
13 Quickness
Utility: 58.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
22 Strength
60 Hits
22 Quickness
4 Valor
Utility: 64.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Neck (Paidrean Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Crush
10% Thrust
10% Body
10% Spirit
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Edgebender Supreme Cloak):
Imbue: 39.0
16 Hits
4% Cold
7% Crush
8% Energy
9% Slash
3 Parry
Utility: 75.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Jewel (Heatbender Supreme Gem -):
Imbue: 38.0
44 Hits
4% Body
5% Crush
7% Energy
8% Heat
1% Matter
5% Spirit
1 Parry
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 81.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Heatbender Supreme Belt):
Imbue: 41.5
7 Dexterity
56 Hits
1% Crush
9% Heat
8% Matter
4% Slash
6% Spirit
1 Acuity
Utility: 75.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Icebender Supreme Ring):
Imbue: 32.5
13 Dexterity
6% Body
7% Cold
6% Energy
1% Thrust
3 Parry
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 68.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Primal Ring of Earth):
Imbue: 40.0
30 Constitution
30 Intelligence
11% Matter
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (5p_bracer):
Imbue: 43.5
19 Strength
13 Dexterity
13 Quickness
8% Body
7% Crush
1% Matter
20 Acuity
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 80.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (15_bracer_2):
Imbue: 44.0
24 Dexterity
1% Energy
10% Heat
9% Slash
5% Spirit
4% Thrust
2 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 84.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
Thu 14 Mar 2019 9:31 AM by Tellus
WeaselSoup wrote:
Thu 14 Mar 2019 1:25 AM
I'm going to post my template for you since you asked for one, for inspiration, and I know the feeling. This is the first time I had to make a template in like 15 years and I had completely forgotten what I was doing. It would have been a good reference to see someone else's on this server. Even if I could not have used it. As others have stated though, this is mostly ROGs and you won't be able to copy any of this.

It is a weaponless template though with everything except power maxed. Blades/shield are maxed via crafted 1h sword/shield. There are some items I disagree with most players on regarding champion templates/builds, and it's reflected in my choices:

1. Valor is not completely useless and gives ~10% damage to your DD. It's not a ton but It's more valuable than 25 power which isn't even enough to cast a single spell. Both are getting to the point of splitting hairs though and only worth it if you want to min-max and have the plat to spare.

2. Slam build on champion is complete garbage, especially on this server, with how good debuffs are. If you go slam you're just a shitty hero. Max what makes the champ special and that's your debuffs/valor.
- If you think by dropping slam you lack a 9s stun then it's time to learn to backstun. When I miss an annihilation it's me playing poorly and not a poor build decision. Plus slam misses a shit-ton due to no hit bonus and poor melee hit chance on this server anyway. Many times a groupmate will be missing slams and I get the annihilation off before them due to bad rng on the slam. Plus if you stun with anni you get an 'extra' annihilation in your stun window by virtue of opening with an annihilate. You may or may not agree with that thought process.

3. Make sure you include an item with a DD charge in your template. Many people don't mention that but IMO it's just as required as a Galla chest. The third interrupt will save you many times versus casters or in group situations.


Anyway, here you go:

LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 969.7
Useable Utility: 948.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Statistics
STR:75/75 CON:76/75 DEX:76/75
QUI:76/75 INT:76/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:204/200
Power:0/25
AF:0/50

Resistances
Body: 28
Cold: 26
Heat: 27
Energy: 27+5
Matter: 26
Spirit: 26
Crush: 30+5
Slash: 27
Thrust: 26

Skills
Valor: 11
Blades: 5
Blunt: 5
Piercing: 5
Large Weaponry: 11
Shield: 3
Parry: 11
Staff: 5

Bonuses

Chest (Bladed Crystal Chestpiece):
Imbue: 35.0
3 Parry
3 Shield
21 Strength
27 Constitution
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Intelligence
19 Constitution
19 Dexterity
4 Valor
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
5% Matter
3 Valor
15% Cold
1 Parry
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
28 Quickness
13 Strength
28 Hits
11% Thrust
Utility: 56.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
5% Energy
6 Large Weaponry
5% Slash
13 Quickness
Utility: 58.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
22 Strength
60 Hits
22 Quickness
4 Valor
Utility: 64.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Neck (Paidrean Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Crush
10% Thrust
10% Body
10% Spirit
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Edgebender Supreme Cloak):
Imbue: 39.0
16 Hits
4% Cold
7% Crush
8% Energy
9% Slash
3 Parry
Utility: 75.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Jewel (Heatbender Supreme Gem -):
Imbue: 38.0
44 Hits
4% Body
5% Crush
7% Energy
8% Heat
1% Matter
5% Spirit
1 Parry
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 81.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Heatbender Supreme Belt):
Imbue: 41.5
7 Dexterity
56 Hits
1% Crush
9% Heat
8% Matter
4% Slash
6% Spirit
1 Acuity
Utility: 75.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Icebender Supreme Ring):
Imbue: 32.5
13 Dexterity
6% Body
7% Cold
6% Energy
1% Thrust
3 Parry
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 68.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Primal Ring of Earth):
Imbue: 40.0
30 Constitution
30 Intelligence
11% Matter
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (5p_bracer):
Imbue: 43.5
19 Strength
13 Dexterity
13 Quickness
8% Body
7% Crush
1% Matter
20 Acuity
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 80.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (15_bracer_2):
Imbue: 44.0
24 Dexterity
1% Energy
10% Heat
9% Slash
5% Spirit
4% Thrust
2 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 84.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Thanks mate, this was what I was after, also your point as to why not go for slam I like.

atm I'm 50 lw, 42 shield 39 valor, 6 blade and 2 parry. But will most likely be respeccing to 50lw 50 valor.

I've made a quick and dirty template just to start up on my toon, I'm happy with it its using cheap ROG's:

LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 920.2
Useable Utility: 914.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Statistics
STR:76/75 CON:76/75 DEX:4/75
QUI:74/75 INT:76/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:201/200
Power:0/25
AF:0/50

Resistances
Body: 23
Cold: 25
Heat: 23
Energy: 23+5
Matter: 27
Spirit: 27
Crush: 23+5
Slash: 26
Thrust: 26

Skills
Valor: 11
Blades: 11
Blunt: 5
Piercing: 5
Large Weaponry: 5
Shield: 11
Parry: 8
Staff: 5

Bonuses

Two-Handed Configuration:
Build Utility: 877.6
Useable Utility: 871.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Statistics
STR:76/75 CON:76/75 DEX:0/75
QUI:74/75 INT:76/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:201/200
Power:0/25
AF:0/50

Resistances
Body: 23
Cold: 25
Heat: 23
Energy: 23+5
Matter: 27
Spirit: 27
Crush: 23+5
Slash: 26
Thrust: 26

Skills
Valor: 11
Blades: 5
Blunt: 5
Piercing: 5
Large Weaponry: 11
Shield: 3
Parry: 11
Staff: 5

Bonuses

Chest (Bladed Crystal Breastplate):
Imbue: 35.0
21 Strength
27 Constitution
3 Parry
3 Shield
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.0/28 (Quality: 99)
13 Strength
19 Quickness
7% Cold
11% Energy
Utility: 57.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/28 (Quality: 99)
16 Intelligence
11% Energy
7% Spirit
7% Matter
Utility: 60.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/28 (Quality: 99)
25 Strength
9% Matter
3% Thrust
76 Hits
Utility: 59.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands:
Imbue: 37.5/28 (Quality: 99)
11% Slash
28 Constitution
16 Intelligence
2 Valor
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.5/28 (Quality: 99)
4 Valor
76 Hits
22 Quickness
10 Intelligence
Utility: 60.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Shadow Walker's Blade):
Imbue: 35.0
15 Strength
6% Crush
3 Stealth
5 Blades
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Hand:
Imbue: 37.0/28 (Quality: 99)
8 Shield
1 Blades
4 Dexterity
Utility: 47.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Two-Handed (Knobled Great Hammer):
Imbue: 40.0
15 Strength
6% Crush
3 Parry
6 Large Weaponry
Utility: 67.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Neck (Paidrean Necklace (SI Neckie)):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Body
10% Crush
10% Spirit
10% Thrust
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Icebender Supreme Cloak (ROG)):
Imbue: 22.5
7% Cold
6% Matter
4% Spirit
2 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Jewel (Aiglean Earring (SI quest)):
Imbue: 31.0
8% Slash
8% Thrust
8% Heat
24 Hits
Utility: 54.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Edgebender Supreme Belt (ROG)):
Imbue: 20.0
7 Constitution
5% Matter
6% Slash
1 Parry
2 ALL magic skills
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 46.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (Speedy Supreme Ring (ROG)):
Imbue: 30.5
1 Strength
14 Constitution
19 Quickness
7% Cold
1 Parry
15 Acuity
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 56.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Spiritbender Exceptional ring (ROG)):
Imbue: 18.0
24 Hits
1% Body
4% Cold
1% Slash
6% Spirit
1 ALL magic skills
1 ALL melee weapon skills
Utility: 40.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Heatbender supreme bracer (ROG)):
Imbue: 34.5
1 Hits
5% Body
7% Crush
1% Energy
9% Heat
1% Thrust
3 Parry
2 ALL magic skills
Utility: 71.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (Insightfull Supreme Bracer (ROG)):
Imbue: 32.5
1 Strength
14 Quickness
7% Body
6% Heat
4% Thrust
19 Acuity
Utility: 56.7
TOA Utility: 0.0
Thu 14 Mar 2019 2:18 PM by WeaselSoup
couple things:

you're using 3 weapons in your template. It's not possible to use both the 1h/shield and the LW. So something needs to change there. Also you have 37.5 imbue points on your armor which means you will need MP scale armor but you only have 99% quality armor listed. If you're going to spend the plat on MP scale i'd try to make sure you max your resists.
Fri 15 Mar 2019 8:30 AM by Tellus
WeaselSoup wrote:
Thu 14 Mar 2019 2:18 PM
couple things:

you're using 3 weapons in your template. It's not possible to use both the 1h/shield and the LW. So something needs to change there. Also you have 37.5 imbue points on your armor which means you will need MP scale armor but you only have 99% quality armor listed. If you're going to spend the plat on MP scale i'd try to make sure you max your resists.

Crap, thanks for the input I forgot all about that, gonna go redo it.
Regarding the 1h and 2h, Loki gives you the option to create a template using both and then switch between them to be able to look at the different outputs, so that is working correctly.
Fri 15 Mar 2019 8:39 AM by Civer
I have my Temp not here (at work) i have
Everything capped (Resis, all Stats, all Skills, Power) but 2 Galla Armor and 2 MPs. And i think an average of 72+ on Rogs.

But yeah, no sence to post Champ temps, because ROQ > fix items (mostly)
Fri 15 Mar 2019 2:23 PM by WeaselSoup
Tellus wrote:
Fri 15 Mar 2019 8:30 AM
WeaselSoup wrote:
Thu 14 Mar 2019 2:18 PM
couple things:

you're using 3 weapons in your template. It's not possible to use both the 1h/shield and the LW. So something needs to change there. Also you have 37.5 imbue points on your armor which means you will need MP scale armor but you only have 99% quality armor listed. If you're going to spend the plat on MP scale i'd try to make sure you max your resists.

Crap, thanks for the input I forgot all about that, gonna go redo it.
Regarding the 1h and 2h, Loki gives you the option to create a template using both and then switch between them to be able to look at the different outputs, so that is working correctly.

I think your rogs are pretty weak you should spend your money on increasing them. you have multiple 40 util rogs in your temp which should not be acceptable. You also don't have large weapons maxed, which seems like a big problem, and again you don't have a DD charge in your temp unless im missing something.
Tue 19 Mar 2019 8:56 AM by Tellus
WeaselSoup wrote:
Fri 15 Mar 2019 2:23 PM
Tellus wrote:
Fri 15 Mar 2019 8:30 AM
WeaselSoup wrote:
Thu 14 Mar 2019 2:18 PM
couple things:

you're using 3 weapons in your template. It's not possible to use both the 1h/shield and the LW. So something needs to change there. Also you have 37.5 imbue points on your armor which means you will need MP scale armor but you only have 99% quality armor listed. If you're going to spend the plat on MP scale i'd try to make sure you max your resists.

Crap, thanks for the input I forgot all about that, gonna go redo it.
Regarding the 1h and 2h, Loki gives you the option to create a template using both and then switch between them to be able to look at the different outputs, so that is working correctly.

I think your rogs are pretty weak you should spend your money on increasing them. you have multiple 40 util rogs in your temp which should not be acceptable. You also don't have large weapons maxed, which seems like a big problem, and again you don't have a DD charge in your temp unless im missing something.

Large weapons is maxed, while in 2h mode, so no worries there.

Regarding the low rogs. I could farm money and buy more of the higher utility rogs but atm I'm focusing on just getting a semi good template up and running, then I'l have the time to farm for money and upgrade my template later on.

I put a DD charge on my shield for interupt

I'm happy with it
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