Soul Glimmer is too fast!

Started 4 Mar 2019
by Bradekes
in Suggestions
I know this weapon has classic specs. The problem is it cannot be used in offhand and has 2.4 speed making it useless. You cannot benefit from haste effect from CD and it will lower DPS tremendously.

Now this weapon is the absolute best weapon as far as utility for pierce and would be amazing if it could either be used in offhand or had 3.9speed!! Would love a consideration in revising this! Thanks!!
Tue 5 Mar 2019 9:26 AM by Sepplord
Next up:

Weapon X is so good because it has slowspeed, but the UT is very low, please consider upgrading UT

Weapon Y is so good because of it's procc, but stats are bad, please consider moving procc to this other weapon


etc...
building template is really easy on this server, i don't think they need to start adding customchanges to specific old-items
Tue 5 Mar 2019 11:26 AM by Bradekes
Sepplord wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 9:26 AM
Next up:

Weapon X is so good because it has slowspeed, but the UT is very low, please consider upgrading UT

Weapon Y is so good because of it's procc, but stats are bad, please consider moving procc to this other weapon


etc...
building template is really easy on this server, i don't think they need to start adding customchanges to specific old-items
No... It's an unusable dragon weapon.. That's not cool man.. If it were any other mob drop I'd not even bat an eye... With limited options as NS cannot use broodmother fang. Not like there are many options this patch level... So NS are forced to get crafted or wait til a good mainhand rog pops up... 2.4 speed on a mainhand weapon(that is supposed to be top tier) is a huge unfunny joke.
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:16 PM by Sepplord
what's the problem with crafted? My warrior is using a crafted hammer because the slower dragonhammer has a DOT-procc on it (for example). I didn't even consider asking for a change to the weapon, i looked at the available options and went for the one i deemed best fit. My crafted weapon has pros/cons VS other options. It is faster (bad) than the dotproc hammer but doesn't break CC with it'S procc. On the other hand the crafted proccs aren't as strong, but i get to fit the weapon according to my template needs instead of requiring higher UT RoGs
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:17 PM by Ceen
Bradekes wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 11:26 AM
Sepplord wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 9:26 AM
Next up:

Weapon X is so good because it has slowspeed, but the UT is very low, please consider upgrading UT

Weapon Y is so good because of it's procc, but stats are bad, please consider moving procc to this other weapon


etc...
building template is really easy on this server, i don't think they need to start adding customchanges to specific old-items
No... It's an unusable dragon weapon.. That's not cool man.. If it were any other mob drop I'd not even bat an eye... With limited options as NS cannot use broodmother fang. Not like there are many options this patch level... So NS are forced to get crafted or wait til a good mainhand rog pops up... 2.4 speed on a mainhand weapon(that is supposed to be top tier) is a huge unfunny joke.
Unless you are in love with Daoc PvE you should always use crafted weapons as an assasin like everyone else.
Have fun farming 10 feather mainhands and 10 feather offhands.
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:31 PM by Bradekes
Ceen wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:17 PM
Unless you are in love with Daoc PvE you should always use crafted weapons as an assasin like everyone else.
Have fun farming 10 feather mainhands and 10 feather offhands.

I have over 100k feathers in my vault... And no I don't love PvE that much, I just run as many galla raids as I can...

I just think if they make it offhand usable I'd be okay with that, atleast it wouldn't be a huge change.
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:40 PM by Sepplord
Bradekes wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:31 PM
I don't love PvE that much, I just run as many galla raids as I can...
Why though?



And i disagree that it would only be a small change, it introduces a new high UT weapon without downsides. Makes people that have their temp finished angry, and unneccesarily makes templating even easier as it is already.

Devs have enough on their plates already, no need to make them evaluate all benefits/deficiencies of such an idea
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:44 PM by Bradekes
Sepplord wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:40 PM
Bradekes wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 12:31 PM
I don't love PvE that much, I just run as many galla raids as I can...
Why though?



And i disagree that it would only be a small change, it introduces a new high UT weapon without downsides. Makes people that have their temp finished angry, and unneccesarily makes templating even easier as it is already.

Devs have enough on their plates already, no need to make them evaluate all benefits/deficiencies of such an idea

I like feathers thats why... And yeah we should just keep it being useless because that's probably the best option in the long run, a bunch of useless items.. Thanks sepplord for helping me come to the best conclusion.
Tue 5 Mar 2019 2:46 PM by Amp_Phetamine
Bradekes wrote:
Mon 4 Mar 2019 4:34 PM
I know this weapon has classic specs. The problem is it cannot be used in offhand and has 2.4 speed making it useless. You cannot benefit from haste effect from CD and it will lower DPS tremendously.

Now this weapon is the absolute best weapon as far as utility for pierce and would be amazing if it could either be used in offhand or had 3.9speed!! Would love a consideration in revising this! Thanks!!

Why don't you just use this weapon as an extremely fast poison applicator and swap to a slower, higher dps crafted MH weapon once poisons are applied for dps output?
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:01 PM by Bradekes
Amp_Phetamine wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 2:46 PM
Why don't you just use this weapon as an extremely fast poison applicator and swap to a slower, higher dps crafted MH weapon once poisons are applied for dps output?

I don't wanna spend feathers on a glorified poison applicator.. Also that's not my style.. I don't enjoy cheap gameplay, to me poisin swap every hit. I know it may be effective but I like competitive fun fights not lame IWin buttons. My NS is BM specced full CD for fun.. Also has envenom for WS debuff and snare and disease poisons tho.

If that's how you play your NS no shame to each their own. But to me the best pierce weapon shouldn't only have a gimmicky niche use.
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:09 PM by Amp_Phetamine
Bradekes wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:01 PM
Amp_Phetamine wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 2:46 PM
Why don't you just use this weapon as an extremely fast poison applicator and swap to a slower, higher dps crafted MH weapon once poisons are applied for dps output?

I don't wanna spend feathers on a glorified poison applicator.. Also that's not my style.. I don't enjoy cheap gameplay, to me poisin swap every hit. I know it may be effective but I like competitive fun fights not lame IWin buttons. My NS is BM specced full CD for fun.. Also has envenom for WS debuff and snare and disease poisons tho.

If that's how you play your NS no shame to each their own. But to me the best pierce weapon shouldn't only have a gimmicky niche use.

I understand where you're coming from! But unfortunately I don't believe it's essential to revamp a weapon simply to fit a preferred play style. It's a PITA but you may just have to forgo utilizing Soul Glimmer if it doesn't fit how you want to play your Night Shade. I still believe it's highly viable to use to deploy the main poisons you need applied to your target and then swap to your main weapon and play the blade master night shade but as you stated to each their own.
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:15 PM by Bradekes
Amp_Phetamine wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:09 PM
I understand where you're coming from! But unfortunately I don't believe it's essential to revamp a weapon simply to fit a preferred play style. It's a PITA but you may just have to forgo utilizing Soul Glimmer if it doesn't fit how you want to play your Night Shade. I still believe it's highly viable to use to deploy the main poisons you need applied to your target and then swap to your main weapon and play the blade master night shade but as you stated to each their own.

The biggest thing, IMO, is there are ROG dirks you can load up on for poison swapping that don't need decent stats to be viable.. I feel like this weapon was an oversite as it should really not be so useless and should be able to be utilized as a main instead of swap material
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:19 PM by Amp_Phetamine
Bradekes wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:15 PM
Amp_Phetamine wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:09 PM
I understand where you're coming from! But unfortunately I don't believe it's essential to revamp a weapon simply to fit a preferred play style. It's a PITA but you may just have to forgo utilizing Soul Glimmer if it doesn't fit how you want to play your Night Shade. I still believe it's highly viable to use to deploy the main poisons you need applied to your target and then swap to your main weapon and play the blade master night shade but as you stated to each their own.

The biggest thing, IMO, is there are ROG dirks you can load up on for poison swapping that don't need decent stats to be viable.. I feel like this weapon was an oversite as it should really not be so useless and should be able to be utilized as a main instead of swap material

In that regard Soul Glimmer doesn't stand alone. There are quite a few 15k feather weapons that are mediocre at best that can easily be replaced with PC or ROG variants.
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:45 PM by Bradekes
Amp_Phetamine wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:19 PM
In that regard Soul Glimmer doesn't stand alone. There are quite a few 15k feather weapons that are mediocre at best that can easily be replaced with PC or ROG variants.

Which I totally understand, but why not start at the top offenders and work down eventually... I don't think it is of upmost importance or anything.. Not my life goal to give devs more work.. But this weapon offends me
Tue 5 Mar 2019 4:13 PM by Amp_Phetamine
Bradekes wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:45 PM
Amp_Phetamine wrote:
Tue 5 Mar 2019 3:19 PM
In that regard Soul Glimmer doesn't stand alone. There are quite a few 15k feather weapons that are mediocre at best that can easily be replaced with PC or ROG variants.

Which I totally understand, but why not start at the top offenders and work down eventually... I don't think it is of upmost importance or anything.. Not my life goal to give devs more work.. But this weapon offends me

Most certainly! I agree that in regards to a 2.4 speed MH, Soul Glimmer should either have a speed decrease or make it OH use-able as well. That would be within reason.
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