Put back SOS Albion only - Phoenix Freeshard

Any planned compensation for albion loosing its iconic RA to the other realms?

Or are you going to share some of this stuff with us :

- Instant AOE Desease
- Instant AOE Mezz
- Instant AOE Amnesy
- AOE Stun
- Celerity

You could just get rid of any instant aoe amnesy as a good start.

Dont start with.."ichor..:" Midgard can have this shit back in a heartbeat for sos

Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:18 PM by Quik

You can beat a dead horse all you want but if you haven't figured out by now that the GM's aren't making any drastic overhauls just because a few people on the boards aren't happy they lost SoS to the other realms, no one can help you understand.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:19 PM by Cruella

The only drastic overhaul was to let this happen in the first place "classic inspired server..:. not mythic classic clone"....

Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:20 PM by Anaethema

Your 'compensation' is access to RA's that were previously only available in other realms... just like the other realms got access to SOS.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:26 PM by Cruella

Then tell me which of the "new" ras albion got has the same impact like sos....

Put back ichor to mid and thornfield to hib only nice gimmicks nothing more

You could at least share instant mezz and/or amnesie with albion

Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:45 PM by Yint

I'm sure hibs would like their group purge and sever the tether back as well. What ya gonna do? ;0

Sun 3 Mar 2019 6:18 AM by jhaerik

I'm fine with this.

Just give light tanks charge.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 8:22 AM by teiloh

Anaethema wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:20 PM
Your 'compensation' is access to RA's that were previously only available in other realms... just like the other realms got access to SOS.

1.65 balance was built around the RAs. Alb needed SoS to cover specific class weakness, and that was the status quo for years. It even cut through speed warps in the months where OF+ToA was live.

NF RAs + 1.65 class balance is not ideal, and this is even more obvious to me when I play realms other than Alb. Explains a lot of Alb's underpop problems as well.

Luckily the Devs seem to agree, as Friars, Wizards and maybe Paladins being looked at.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 2:16 PM by Isavyr

teiloh wrote: ↑
Sun 3 Mar 2019 8:22 AM
Anaethema wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:20 PM
Your 'compensation' is access to RA's that were previously only available in other realms... just like the other realms got access to SOS.
NF RAs + 1.65 class balance is not ideal, and this is even more obvious to me when I play realms other than Alb. Explains a lot of Alb's underpop problems as well.

Alb is extremely good. Reason some people aren't playing them is because 1) they've played them to death 2) consider it easy-mode.

The synergy between cabs and sorcs define Albion, imo. Forget the theurgist.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 2:52 PM by merry75

albion easy mode in this server with tweak change ? you have no idea what you are talking about

albion is the worst of those realms in 1.65 especial with new ras implementation : sos/det for all was a huge mistake but given time they will figure out this was a bad idea.

all the competitive groups are playing mid/hib, I wonder why the top 20 rr in the herald there is no alb. alb is the weakest in terms of utility per class.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 3:05 PM by Milchschnidde

teiloh wrote: ↑
Sun 3 Mar 2019 8:22 AM
Anaethema wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:20 PM
Your 'compensation' is access to RA's that were previously only available in other realms... just like the other realms got access to SOS.

1.65 balance was built around the RAs. Alb needed SoS to cover specific class weakness, and that was the status quo for years. It even cut through speed warps in the months where OF+ToA was live.

NF RAs + 1.65 class balance is not ideal, and this is even more obvious to me when I play realms other than Alb. Explains a lot of Alb's underpop problems as well.

Luckily the Devs seem to agree, as Friars, Wizards and maybe Paladins being looked at.

Is see just a small upgrade for Friars fine to add them grp spec heal and rework his hot with adding a concentration spec buff or so would incrase his value, like other threads discuss aready about him, he shouldnt be able to be the jack of all trades to skill all line to maximum o0 which total absurd, Palading allready got a rework they have the same amount of skillpoints like full tanks, and the Wizzard doesent need any balance, theire PBAOE matches the same of Enchanter, Eldritch and Spiritmaster only the Spiritmaster has a bit more dmg because the level is higher of the skill. Come on the Wizzards are the only one able to debuff theire own PBAOE with a PBAOE debuff. Wizzards can debuff their own dmg line which is total OP you can debuff matter and use the Matter spec bolt from earth line to humiliate soft targets. or heat debuff with baseline head dd, i dont get what do you mean wizzard are in top shape.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 3:34 PM by Anaethema

teiloh wrote: ↑
Sun 3 Mar 2019 8:22 AM
Anaethema wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 5:20 PM
Your 'compensation' is access to RA's that were previously only available in other realms... just like the other realms got access to SOS.

1.65 balance was built around the RAs. Alb needed SoS to cover specific class weakness, and that was the status quo for years. It even cut through speed warps in the months where OF+ToA was live.

NF RAs + 1.65 class balance is not ideal, and this is even more obvious to me when I play realms other than Alb. Explains a lot of Alb's underpop problems as well.

Luckily the Devs seem to agree, as Friars, Wizards and maybe Paladins being looked at.

I would LOVE to go back to OF RA's and get Group Purge back for my Druid, Dodger and AP back for my NS.. etc. but I am not a GM nor an Admin nor do I get any say in what decisions they make. I am just a player like everyone else and help take care of the boards for them. I would love to have my RA's that I had in Beta back, but that probably isn't happening so I play the best I can with the tools I have been given.

I could go off about BDs and their stupidly OP'd pets or Winstrels with their red con pets and having every tool available to get away from both visibles and stealthers, but I won't. I just play the game and quietly hate those two classes and hope someday they are nerfed into dust.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 3:47 PM by Isavyr

merry75 wrote: ↑
Sun 3 Mar 2019 2:52 PM
all the competitive groups are playing mid/hib, I wonder why the top 20 rr in the herald there is no alb. alb is the weakest in terms of utility per class.

Nearly all competitive groups rolled Hib at server restart--this is the realm that lost GP, and lost their nearsight dominance with cure-nearsight! Probably because they simply wanted to play it, not because Hib was the easiest to play.

What did alb lose? Melee tank train SOS? That's it. Their caster (cab/sorc) groups are fine, and frankly, were always the strong-point in the first place--they still have their defensive SOS, and still have ENORMOUS utility--in fact, more with Ichor. Just avoid the wiz + theurg and you're gtg.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 3:52 PM by Afuldan

“Albion Utility is too spread out!” You have 95% of the utility in Minstrel, Cabalist and Sorcerer, which I see even in melee groups.

“SOS should be alb only!” Viper, Vanish, Ichor, TWF, Group Purge say hi. Rip GP.

Edit: can Mid get casted PoM instead of conc? Or a second (!) NS spec. I’m CERTAIN BD need that buff.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 5:28 PM by teiloh

Anaethema wrote: ↑
Sun 3 Mar 2019 3:34 PM
I could go off about BDs and their stupidly OP'd pets or Winstrels with their red con pets and having every tool available to get away from both visibles and stealthers, but I won't. I just play the game and quietly hate those two classes and hope someday they are nerfed into dust.

Yes, Minstrels are good at escaping, but they have a lot of BS to escape - Insta Amnesia, Insta Ranged Stun, Insta 1500 Range Snare, Insta AOE Mez, Insta 1500 Range Stun, Insta AOE Stun, Stun+Nuke, Tanglers+Ani pets, etc.

Just give Alb Instant VP back

Sun 3 Mar 2019 5:39 PM by jhaerik

teiloh wrote: ↑
Sun 3 Mar 2019 5:28 PM
Anaethema wrote: ↑
Sun 3 Mar 2019 3:34 PM
I could go off about BDs and their stupidly OP'd pets or Winstrels with their red con pets and having every tool available to get away from both visibles and stealthers, but I won't. I just play the game and quietly hate those two classes and hope someday they are nerfed into dust.

Yes, Minstrels are good at escaping, but they have a lot of BS to escape - Insta Amnesia, Insta Ranged Stun, Insta 1500 Range Snare, Insta AOE Mez, Insta 1500 Range Stun, Insta AOE Stun, Stun+Nuke, Tanglers+Ani pets, etc.

Just give Alb Instant VP back

Again sure.

Just give my Savage charge.