Make Greys Worth RP Again - Phoenix Freeshard

How is it ok that a grey can mooch off of these tasks to get rank but they aren't punished for it? Stop catering to care bears, if you enter an rvr zone that is your choice and you should be eligible for punishment.

Fri 1 Mar 2019 5:26 PM by Kyosji

So what punishment does a level 50 experience that a level 15 doesn't? Just curious.

Fri 1 Mar 2019 5:35 PM by Kaedius

They die just like any other 50 that feels like suiciding to get free RPs, just a lot faster. What sort of punishment do you have in mind? A grey won't stop mooching because they give RPs when they die, that doesn't really effect them in the slightest.

I am in favor of limiting the way greys can get free RPs such as not allowing a reward until 35+, but some sort of extra punishment seems like the wrong way to go about it.

Fri 1 Mar 2019 5:40 PM by Kyosji

Kaedius wrote: ↑
Fri 1 Mar 2019 5:35 PM
They die just like any other 50 that feels like suiciding to get free RPs, just a lot faster. What sort of punishment do you have in mind? A grey won't stop mooching because they give RPs when they die, that doesn't really effect them in the slightest.

I am in favor of limiting the way greys can get free RPs such as not allowing a reward until 35+, but some sort of extra punishment seems like the wrong way to go about it.

Agreed. I just wanted to point out his reasoning made no sense.

Fri 1 Mar 2019 7:18 PM by alusnova415

Who cares if these greys get to rr3 before 50? Guess what no free specs for them , I know most will stop leeching the rp/exp before rr3 and if anything it helps them in leveling as they use the RA to get to level 50 faster ( serinity3, MoB, MCL2,etc) then once they hit 50 they will be least rr3 and have some pvp tools to compete . Where is the downside ?

Also while I would like for greys to be worth little rp it will encourage more grey ganking? But hey is a pvp zone if they are out there they should know the risks ... vote to make greys worth rp again!

Fri 1 Mar 2019 7:24 PM by Roks

I totally agree. Let greys be worth RPs again. I dont care for the stats for the title.

But grays are roaming around FZ or XPing in the FZ know the danger. And plus they are now LOOKING to get killed because of the invasion participation bonuses.

Fri 1 Mar 2019 7:27 PM by chryso

ibeturgood wrote: ↑
Fri 1 Mar 2019 5:05 PM
How is it ok that a grey can mooch off of these tasks to get rank but they aren't punished for it? Stop catering to care bears, if you enter an rvr zone that is your choice and you should be eligible for punishment.

What's the care bear part? Please explain how you arrived at this designation.

Fri 1 Mar 2019 9:42 PM by Kaedius

alusnova415 wrote: ↑
Fri 1 Mar 2019 7:18 PM
Who cares if these greys get to rr3 before 50? Guess what no free specs for them , I know most will stop leeching the rp/exp before rr3 and if anything it helps them in leveling as they use the RA to get to level 50 faster ( serinity3, MoB, MCL2,etc) then once they hit 50 they will be least rr3 and have some pvp tools to compete . Where is the downside ?

Also while I would like for greys to be worth little rp it will encourage more grey ganking? But hey is a pvp zone if they are out there they should know the risks ... vote to make greys worth rp again!

The only thing I'm not a fan of is that getting RPs for RvR tasks sub lvl 35 discourages participating in the lvl 20-34 BGs. It's much too lucrative and easy to instead simply suicide during an RvR task, which seems a little strange. Let's keep the BGs as relevant and populated as possible!

Other than that, I don't really care what greys do in the FZ or whether they are worth or not.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:49 PM by Milchschnidde

In my opinion killing greys should start a bounty task against the slayer, which increases rps for ppl. which killed the bounty.

Example i killed 3 grey mids ->bunty flag on me, as long mids kill me they get 25% additional RPS, or a fixed value like a quest or so.

I am fine with the current task system for greys, i would just increase maximum rr you can have inside the BG's BG1 should be open till RR2l0 and BG3 till RR4l0, so rolling a BG char has a value, other then that you would do fast tasks and xp items to get to real RvR.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:53 PM by cocio_dk

greys should be a reward, they go in rvr to gain rps and xp, and being in rvr zone u die. end of story

Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:55 PM by Quik

Kaedius wrote: ↑
Fri 1 Mar 2019 9:42 PM
alusnova415 wrote: ↑
Fri 1 Mar 2019 7:18 PM
Who cares if these greys get to rr3 before 50? Guess what no free specs for them , I know most will stop leeching the rp/exp before rr3 and if anything it helps them in leveling as they use the RA to get to level 50 faster ( serinity3, MoB, MCL2,etc) then once they hit 50 they will be least rr3 and have some pvp tools to compete . Where is the downside ?

Also while I would like for greys to be worth little rp it will encourage more grey ganking? But hey is a pvp zone if they are out there they should know the risks ... vote to make greys worth rp again!

The only thing I'm not a fan of is that getting RPs for RvR tasks sub lvl 35 discourages participating in the lvl 20-34 BGs. It's much too lucrative and easy to instead simply suicide during an RvR task, which seems a little strange. Let's keep the BGs as relevant and populated as possible!

Other than that, I don't really care what greys do in the FZ or whether they are worth or not.

I understand your idea on this, but speaking JUST for myself, regardless whether the game has easy tasks or not, I will not participate in the BG's here.

I have done Thid about 5-6 times and Cale about 7-8 times and only once each BG did I have fun since I was with a group.

Every other time I went in I never made it to the CK before a stealthier would nail me.

I am not blaming stealthers for wanting to play a stealthier, but why should I even bother when I am stunned, poisoned a dozen times, and hammered down. No I don't run purge before RR3 very often and I understand I can, but I still won't.

So for me, even if the game had zero task RP's, I would still skip the BG's just like I will on my current Thane that I rerolled and started over on.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:56 PM by Quik

cocio_dk wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:53 PM
greys should be a reward, they go in rvr to gain rps and xp, and being in rvr zone u die. end of story

Awww...sounds like someone can't kill other 50's so wants easier kills? Or maybe you just want the solo killer title and greys are the way you want to get it? LOL

Sat 2 Mar 2019 7:33 PM by cocio_dk

Quik wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:56 PM
cocio_dk wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:53 PM
greys should be a reward, they go in rvr to gain rps and xp, and being in rvr zone u die. end of story

Awww...sounds like someone can't kill other 50's so wants easier kills? Or maybe you just want the solo killer title and greys are the way you want to get it? LOL

well not true. pinned inf here

Sat 2 Mar 2019 11:32 PM by Simaetha

Pretty simple fix in my opinion...No one should get participation for dying (greys and 50s alike). This should stop the running into keep guards and staying afk at flags.

I have no issue with greys capping flags though. If they are skilled enough to dodge groups and make it to a flag, then live long enough to cap it, they should get something for it.

Making greys worth RP again will encourage grey ganking...but levelling in the frontier should be a risk. I don't generally grey gank out of politeness.

Another suggestion I have would be that greys have a high miss chance against 50's for mezz, etc. I am regularly mezzed and interrupted by greys. It should not be that easy for them.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 1:51 AM by relvinian

Higher rr toons get less and less rp for tasks, and also now task participation.

It is not clear, logically to me, why say a level 30 grey toon would get more rps for a task than say a rr 7 lvl 50.

I got 321 just now. A level 32 got 480.

sorry but that is complete and utter BS.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 2:15 AM by Afuldan

relvinian wrote: ↑
Sun 3 Mar 2019 1:51 AM
Higher rr toons get less and less rp for tasks, and also now task participation.

It is not clear, logically to me, why say a level 30 grey toon would get more rps for a task than say a rr 7 lvl 50.

I got 321 just now. A level 32 got 480.

sorry but that is complete and utter BS.

It’s supposed to be a catch up mechanic, not so you can task to RR12.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 2:58 AM by relvinian

Well believe me, at almost 2 million rps, the 321 rps doesn't mean much.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 5:24 PM by Quik

Tasks are for helping newer toons catch up, not to help an RR12 get a huge chunk.

At that RR you are meant to roll other realms plus, I still find it kinda lame that RR10+ should even be achievable at this point. It really should take a LOT longer then 2 months IMHO.