Get the damn skald fix'd

Started 1 Mar 2019
by Rexoo
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I have now countered a RR 4+ The skald(Can't spec in shield) / im RR 3,9 (Paladin s/s - almost full Sidi equpment) And in plan face to face both using s/s. A unspec'd Skald can kick my ass - Even without a sweet. WHT IS UP WITH THAT - Dear dev -team ????
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:37 PM by Tritri
I don't really get what you are saying

What do you mean unspec'd Skald ?
Without a sweet ? Without a sweat maybe ?

Anyway, I don't really know if Skald are overturned for duel compared to live, but we should not balance classes over duels

Also, full sidi ? What ? Maybe that's why you lost ?
Do you really mean full stuff Sidi ?? Because that would suck a lot
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:41 PM by kedelin
Rexoo wrote:
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:33 PM
I have now countered a RR 4+ The skald(Can't spec in shield) / im RR 3,9 (Paladin s/s - almost full Sidi equpment) And in plan face to face both using s/s. A unspec'd Skald can kick my ass - Even without a sweet. WHT IS UP WITH THAT - Dear dev -team ????

Your a sword and shield pally... means no dps... skald will beat ya with his shouts over time... you shouldn't be able to beat every class out there all the time
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:43 PM by defiasbandit
Skald totally overtuned now.
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:53 PM by kedelin
defiasbandit wrote:
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:43 PM
Skald totally overtuned now.

Totally over tuned??? How so??? Skald still get 4 shot by any tank except pallys scouts rangers... over half the time mezz gets resisted... there are so many other classes that need some detuning before skalds
Fri 1 Mar 2019 11:52 PM by Tritri
kedelin wrote:
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:53 PM
defiasbandit wrote:
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:43 PM
Skald totally overtuned now.

Totally over tuned??? How so??? Skald still get 4 shot by any tank except pallys scouts rangers... over half the time mezz gets resisted... there are so many other classes that need some detuning before skalds

Don't fool yourself, Skald are overtuned by definition since they have access to determination which they never had before
Sat 2 Mar 2019 12:11 AM by Luluko
Tritri wrote:
Fri 1 Mar 2019 11:52 PM
kedelin wrote:
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:53 PM
defiasbandit wrote:
Fri 1 Mar 2019 10:43 PM
Skald totally overtuned now.

Totally over tuned??? How so??? Skald still get 4 shot by any tank except pallys scouts rangers... over half the time mezz gets resisted... there are so many other classes that need some detuning before skalds

Don't fool yourself, Skald are overtuned by definition since they have access to determination which they never had before

because det has so much effect in 1vs1 vs a paladin right?

dont get what op wants he didnt even specify whats so op? hammer skald only got after parry 2 style stun combo if you eat that yeah you can probably die to a skald so either watch out if he parrys and try avoid the stun while moving arround despite that you should probably specc into thrust if you wanna do damage on skalds and a little 2h when he is in slam could also be good

if you turtle too much behind your shield the dds will kill you over time so body resist chant should also help vs skald but its not impossible to kill one if he doesnt just run away if he cant get through the paladins defense
Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:28 AM by Redzus
i did report this too like 3 weeks ago, Grueenesschaf closed my threat and called me a troll.

what he is talking about is , that a sklad with 0 shield since he cant spec shield blocks more then his paladin with shield speced and kicks his arse.

Some skalds have a close to 90% blockrate which is speculation that its 90% since the block chance is not displayed in system chat but almost every hit/shot/bolt gets blocked.
Sat 2 Mar 2019 7:13 AM by imamo
I don't understand your point. You can't expect skald to defeat a shield tank as skald in melee. You need to kite and dd him, and when his hp low you must engage melee and finish.
Sat 2 Mar 2019 7:21 AM by jhaerik
Plays DAoC.... an RvR game.

Complains about 1v1 balance while playing a non speed/non stealth class.

Too much faceplam.
Sat 2 Mar 2019 8:27 AM by keen
Redzus wrote:
Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:28 AM
i did report this too like 3 weeks ago, Grueenesschaf closed my threat and called me a troll.

what he is talking about is , that a sklad with 0 shield since he cant spec shield blocks more then his paladin with shield speced and kicks his arse.

Some skalds have a close to 90% blockrate which is speculation that its 90% since the block chance is not displayed in system chat but almost every hit/shot/bolt gets blocked.
And he is right, you obviously just spread lies and fake news.
Sat 2 Mar 2019 10:23 AM by Luluko
Redzus wrote:
Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:28 AM
i did report this too like 3 weeks ago, Grueenesschaf closed my threat and called me a troll.

what he is talking about is , that a sklad with 0 shield since he cant spec shield blocks more then his paladin with shield speced and kicks his arse.

Some skalds have a close to 90% blockrate which is speculation that its 90% since the block chance is not displayed in system chat but almost every hit/shot/bolt gets blocked.

can we get this thread locked ? its clearly only trolls here which want some classes nerfed they have no idea about.. if a skald blocks 90% of you, you shouldnt rvr as a grey, skald blocks almost nothing and even parry is pretty bad without enough moparry, maybe he isnt in view and avoids your swings with movement but thats something else than 90% block chance lol
Sat 2 Mar 2019 3:21 PM by Anaethema
Luluko wrote:
Sat 2 Mar 2019 10:23 AM
can we get this thread locked ?

Show me what rule has been broken to justify locking the thread.

Or are we supposed to lock every thread where someone posts what they think or what they have heard without backing it with logs? Is that is the case then 75% of the threads on this board would be locked. We are not big brother or the mind police. Players can post their opinions or what they feel even if you don't agree with what they are saying.
Sat 2 Mar 2019 4:36 PM by Roks
Skalds can hit hard. Yes. Also they are fotm because they are easy to play, and easy to spec.
Yes some skalds do kiting. But they really do not need to.

But you have to look at it like this, you play a paladin on alb. You are on the side with the most annoying speed classes in the game. Minstrels, sorcs and thuergs.
Specially on this server where minsts are more stealthy. But can you imagine facing a minst w/ any charmed pet, and the kiting game? Stun, melee style, dd, sprint, pet w/ a snare attack, repeat.
Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:18 PM by Milchschnidde
I dont think Skalds are OP, maybe when they switched to ss the skalds where lucky in blocking, my bard in ss mode also had often block in rvr when beeing assist trained a lot, my bard simply has enough dexerty (aug dex3) and fully buffed 300dex, keep in mind there are buff potions and items with spec buff.
I guess you simply lost because he was full buffed -legaly and you where not. Every char that is able to wear a shild has a basic chance to block and if he had high dexerty value which make sense because parry and evade also is depending from dex, i guess. Well statistic can be sometimes a bitch when it had 10% chance to block against you, and you had 25% chance to block, which i am note shure how the exact vaules are, you could have been unlucky not to block 10 turn atacks in follow up and he was lucky to block 5 of 10 turns. In another situation it could be vice versa. Blocking also belongs to weapon ability, i guess du to Midgards melee affinity he had specced something around 39+11+x-rr to any melee weapon and you as paladin seem to have less weapons capability which leads to possition where the skald defense becomes against your atacks stronger and his chances to block, evade and parry may be increased.

I am not shure here But the Skald Weapon skill table should be from Tanks or at least hybrids / high skill (if he was a troll, remember 100Str its also increasing weapon skil)
while Paladin weapons skill should be from Supporter / Hybrid low skill / medium skill, so the chance to hit is a bit lower.

Dont get me wrong on numbers, i am not exactly shure this stand for examples to understand some mechanics
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