Ns blade caledonia spec

Started 28 Feb 2019
by dscamelot
in Hibernia
Hi, i would know the best build for the elf ns blade in caledonia BG if possible and if there are variants spec for try it. Thanks
Thu 28 Feb 2019 2:21 PM by Thinal
I think the first biggest red herring you'll face is Creeping Death, the level 34 followup to PA which is the actual stun in that chain. The problem is that even assuming RR2, getting this plus composite 34 stealth and composite 31 envenom (snare, only poison between 30 and 35) will leave you with about 94 spec points for weapon and CD combined, not a good look. That could get one of them only as high as 13.

The second red herring is to get the blades after-evade followup at 29. This is one of the benefits of blades over piercing, other than the obvious armor table advantage; its after-evade stun followup is much lower spec than pierce's 44. However, while the result isn't quite as distorted as in the Creeping Death scenario, it does leave dismally few points for CS and CD.

The solution appears to be to focus on using the garrote / achilles' heel chain from CS at 25 spec, presuming RR2 (which you'll be pretty quickly if you weren't there already) and getting composite 34 stealth (26 base) and 31 envenom (23 base).

With the remaining spec points, you could get the after-evade stun from blades at 21 or the side stun from CD at 18, but not both. You'll have to decide which is more important, or perhaps you could back off envenom a little bit to get both -- 21 base spec envenom allows both stuns, but you won't quite reach the level 30 DOT. You will reach the level 29 ws/con debuff. (Reducing CS would be another option, but garrote alone is going to use more endurance and deliver fewer results, plus lower PA and growth damage.)

I personally suck at forcing positionals and would personally opt for full envenom and 21 blades, but if you're good at it then you're certainly better off forcing a stun rather than waiting for one.
Thu 28 Feb 2019 10:44 PM by dscamelot
Thanks for the well explained info, now i trying to understand if elf is bad choice for ns and if is better pierce or blade
Fri 1 Mar 2019 1:09 AM by The Skies Asunder
For the record, the Piercing after evade stun is only level 25, not 44.

At RR1 I went:

27 Stealth
25 Critical Strike (The anytime Garrote, and follow up Achilles' Heel have far better GR than anything in blades or pierce)
21 Blades (Went blades for the damage table, and lower level evade stun)
21 CD (Really only need 18 for Ice Storm, but I chose to put the leftover points here)
17 Envenom (If you want to regularly kill tanks, then you might want a bit more of this. I don't find it needed in Caledonia)

Can lower your Stealth and Envenom one point each at RR2. Other specs to mess with would be dropping CD, to get Creeping death at 34 CS, and going really high envenom for bigger DoT damage.
Fri 1 Mar 2019 5:22 AM by dscamelot
And if i will go pierce what is the build? I just trying different styles and spec, and if i put 25 to pierce i force to leave some point in cs i think
Fri 1 Mar 2019 9:04 PM by Thinal
The Skies Asunder wrote:
Fri 1 Mar 2019 1:09 AM
For the record, the Piercing after evade stun is only level 25, not 44.

That is true. The *followup* styles are 29 for blades, 44 for pierce, which is what I was discussing.

With that said, Caledonia really isn't going to be that hard. Nobody has slam, and you're in the realm where the casters have baseline stuns. Archers don't have IP yet. Generally, if you get the jump on somebody, you're going to win. A blades spec is probably going to beat any shadowblade straight up, and you'll have a good chance against any infiltrator who doesn't get a stealth opener on you. Tanks *might* survive you and minnies *might* kite you (blades are worse than pierce on them, if they weren't enough of a pain), but they'll probably still be much easier now than later on.

The biggest problem you're going to have is trying to pick off strays. I always had the best luck with people thinking they could run back to the battle rather than grouping up first, so CK fights are the best no matter who actually owns it.
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