Hib evade is rediclious - Phoenix Freeshard

So it's just me or why is every meele in Hib evade my Hits as a full tempted Tank but they can land every stun?!

So it's only in my mind that Hibs are to strong with the evade chances or what do you think?
And sorry for the bad english.

Mon 28 Jan 2019 1:41 PM by Takii

There's no such thing as "Hib evade"....

Mon 28 Jan 2019 1:42 PM by Patron

Hi Wasterious,

Maybe you play a Hybridclass?
Maybe you took the wrong class?
Maybe you lack in weaponskill because of "wrong" spec?
Without any more informations its hard to say something usefull.

Peace

Mon 28 Jan 2019 3:01 PM by Koljar

Yeah, evade is the same for all realms. It just varies in level and type (normal vs. advanced) with the class. Qui helps with evading and doesn't have a cap.

Mon 28 Jan 2019 3:05 PM by Afuldan

Dex/Qui help with evade, along with more advanced evade ranks.

Base Chance to Evade (%) = ( ([Dexterity] + [Quickness]) / 2 - 50) * 0.05 + [Evade Level] * 5

Tue 29 Jan 2019 12:50 PM by Sepplord

Wasterius wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Jan 2019 1:25 PM
So it's just me or why is every meele in Hib evade my Hits as a full tempted Tank but they can land every stun?!

So it's only in my mind that Hibs are to strong with the evade chances or what do you think?
And sorry for the bad english.

Did you have buffs?

Were you fighting enemies that were buffed?

What class were you fighting?

Evade is evade, it is the same across all realms, some classes have evade 1 some evade 2 or 3 and so on....

Tue 29 Jan 2019 2:20 PM by daocgod

The only things Hib evade is 8v8.

Fri 22 Feb 2019 12:05 AM by lilrdmandy

Wasterius wrote: ↑
Mon 28 Jan 2019 1:25 PM
So it's only in my mind that Hibs are to strong with the evade chances or what do you think?

Troll skalds evade my 50 slash minstrel, so tell me how that works exactly... They also have buffed HP and access to Determination here.

Fri 22 Feb 2019 1:27 AM by kmark101

I think misses are generally a bigger issue here.
My fully buffed temped 50 weapon specced etc.. troll warrior just freakin MISSES MISSES MISSES with 14.90% chance in pvp... I mean c'mon!

Fri 22 Feb 2019 3:01 AM by MadsHoha

daocgod wrote: ↑
Tue 29 Jan 2019 2:20 PM
The only things Hib evade is 8v8.

This is hilarious 😂

I too seem to have more issues with straight up just missing than being evaded

Fri 22 Feb 2019 3:22 AM by teiloh

Try hitting a Savage :p

Fri 22 Feb 2019 7:31 AM by inoeth

sometimes it feels like evade it really out of control, on my 34 sb in cale i barely evade, but my enemys sometimes evade 7 times in a row... both infis and ns
dont know how the random generator works here but maybe it has something to do with that? i mean maybe it sometimes is stuck to one decision? or maybe just really really bad luck

Fri 22 Feb 2019 9:59 AM by Zdur

If its like on live servers .... there is cap for evade when dex+q = 400. Dont know if its same here or if they change it.

Fri 22 Feb 2019 11:45 AM by inoeth

Zdur wrote: ↑
Fri 22 Feb 2019 9:59 AM
If its like on live servers .... there is cap for evade when dex+q = 400. Dont know if its same here or if they change it.

evade cap is 50% but thats not the point... in cale for example evade rates are around 20% but sometimes enemys evade 9/10 swings in a row.
i remember that from uthgard 1 they had an issue with the random generator where sometimes action where stuck to one decision, later they changed that and it worked much better. so im wondering if there might be the same issue here or just very bad luck^^

Fri 22 Feb 2019 11:53 AM by Zdur

cap is 50% but you dont get more from stats over 400.... same like soft cap for q 250

Sun 24 Feb 2019 4:33 AM by Eritlan2

+1 on the flat out misses. It is not just crazy evade streaks. The whole melee system feels wrong. Not only in comparison to other/official servers but from beta to live, somethings different.

Sun 24 Feb 2019 5:04 AM by Campjr

Eritlan2 wrote: ↑
Sun 24 Feb 2019 4:33 AM
+1 on the flat out misses. It is not just crazy evade streaks. The whole melee system feels wrong. Not only in comparison to other/official servers but from beta to live, somethings different.

Agreed.. I have numerous screen shots of nonsense misses. Something isn’t right for sure.

Sun 24 Feb 2019 9:16 AM by djegu

Did you guys enchanted your crafted weapon ?

Sun 24 Feb 2019 9:51 AM by Warlay

i also thinks that there is something wrong, most ns i meet they evade too often whereas my sb barely does it

Sun 24 Feb 2019 5:10 PM by Tavi

I hear that they gave every class that can evade 360 evade. On live only savage had that.

Can anyone confirm this?

Sun 24 Feb 2019 7:33 PM by Ninefingers

Tavi wrote: ↑
Sun 24 Feb 2019 5:10 PM
I hear that they gave every class that can evade 360 evade. On live only savage had that.

Can anyone confirm this?

It's wrong. Bers/sav/BM/merc get 360 evade only

Thu 28 Feb 2019 7:17 PM by Warlay

scenario: rr5 ns attacked my friend Baghira, rr3 sb at this time, i (rr5) stealthed directly from behind i missed my backstabII, ok can happen but omg, after he evaded 2 strikes from me whereas i was still behind him Oo. Baghira died and after he evaded again 4 times or so... end of story ns killed rr3 and rr5 sb, from my gimp dmg on him i dont want to speak about that, its another story....

this happens quit a lot here which is totally strange

edit: of course full sc, red spec buffs

Thu 28 Feb 2019 7:36 PM by FFpheonix

19% chance to Miss and 29% chance to Evade, really leaves the fight up to dice rolls.

Fri 1 Mar 2019 4:40 AM by Yint

Those Combat logs are so damn funny, Looks like the enemy there is just spamming detaunt style for defense bonus (19.75% missrate) and using /switch lifebane spam as the real damage. Autoattack dmg + poisons taking on 1v2?

Sat 2 Mar 2019 2:11 AM by phixion

Campjr wrote: ↑
Sun 24 Feb 2019 5:04 AM
Eritlan2 wrote: ↑
Sun 24 Feb 2019 4:33 AM
+1 on the flat out misses. It is not just crazy evade streaks. The whole melee system feels wrong. Not only in comparison to other/official servers but from beta to live, somethings different.

Agreed.. I have numerous screen shots of nonsense misses. Something isn’t right for sure.

I am thinking the same, of course I have no evidence, but some of the evade/miss chances seem way over the top here. RNG can really screw you in some fights, you stand there as if you're not even swinging, then check your log and you are just missing and being evaded.

Real world example: I was fighting a Minstrel with a 10% evade chance and he evaded 4 of my attacks and I missed 2... Of course I died because I got completely screwed by RNG.

There's a bunch of melee players on Mid who are convinced that melee is broken here, I also think there's something very wrong. But I have no evidence to back it up.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 2:27 AM by relvinian

That is ridiculous, were those swords and axes you were swinging or feather dusters?

I tried smite cleric in beta and when i saw the log of them evading me 50% of the time i was like F-this.

Also i can't do the side stun. and it just seemed to me like i would fight some people and be a baby vs mike tyson.

So i made a necro.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 3:45 PM by phixion

Another example of this, a Ranger just evaded 5/7 of my attacks with a 15% evade chance—That’s more like 70%. I know RNG is a thing but it seems a bit too dominating here. Some fights you feel like your character is a complete and utter gimp.

Sat 2 Mar 2019 6:49 PM by Warlay

its really funny it seems this affects only hib stealther classes

Sat 2 Mar 2019 7:35 PM by Ceen

phixion wrote: ↑
Sat 2 Mar 2019 3:45 PM
Another example of this, a Ranger just evaded 5/7 of my attacks with a 15% evade chance—That’s more like 70%. I know RNG is a thing but it seems a bit too dominating here. Some fights you feel like your character is a complete and utter gimp.

Yes rng can be a bitch. Guess what it happens to everyone so rng is a fair bitch

Sat 2 Mar 2019 10:23 PM by sabyrtuth

That log looks pretty normal rng, the only miss after backstab is a 19% offhand. Lucky evades, his evade rate increased to 29% from 24% after hit with ws debuff.

Sun 3 Mar 2019 4:13 AM by Warlay

ok pretty normal. think never happend like this with my rr10 infi in classic