Allowing Buffbots in Beta as a stress test.

Hello,

most people don't like buffbots because it destroy the social part of the game.
For the Beta it would be great to allow buffbots at some point to have more connections, more traffic and pressure on database.

For live its really the question:

Do you want to fight the never ending fight against buffbots?

I've seen already many in game and there always will be buffbots. Even over at the Uthgard regime there are many buffbots running around. Its really hart work to play referee and lot of work to get them of the server constantly.

Mon 9 Jul 2018 8:10 AM by Bigga

i agree. its a NEVER ending story, people will find ways to use buffbots. 80% of the bans from uthgard are buffbot-logging ;-)
buffbotting its a part of daoc since 2001. if it generatic more traffic (higher costs) i sure they are ALOT people who gonna donate anyway ;-), im sure u gonna find a solution for that problem. as i said before, people will always find a way. So why not find a solution

Me, for example, likes to play alone, as I do not have the time pressure to be constantly on my PC (in the group). So I can sporadically level and afk go as I want without the group constantly stop.

i talk about ONLY BUFFBOTTING IN PVE ! not in RvR, thats a different story.

Mon 9 Jul 2018 8:48 AM by Pao

Yes, PVE only. The 5k range anyway makes Buffbots useless in RVR.

Maybe some crazy people try to hide a bb somewhere or run around with a bb in stick. More rps for real teams.
Multiboxing is a bigger issue.

Mon 9 Jul 2018 11:10 AM by

Uthred

We will not allow buffbots at any time on this server.

We already made some stresstests with 2.5k paladins in one zone/area, that where constantly playing their chants. Besides that, we are offering crafted combibuff-potions and there are a lot of items in every realm that have buff-charges. We even offer combi-regen-potions. Every potion has atleast 10 charges, many of them have up to 100. So no one needs to go out there without being buffed.

Yes, it is additional work to look for dual-loggers, but in our opinion it is totally worth it. We want people to group up, to do things together, to become a nice and friendly community and not a place where everyone is playing on his own. Maybe we are just dreamers, hoping to create a friendly & helpful MMORPG-Community, but this one of the main reasons to do this project.

If you are looking for a single player game, this is definitely the wrong game and server.

Mon 9 Jul 2018 11:39 AM by Danaeh

Uthred wrote: ↑
Mon 9 Jul 2018 11:10 AM
We will not allow buffbots at any time on this server.

We already made some stresstests with 2.5k paladins in one zone/area, that where constantly playing their chants. Besides that, we are offering crafted combibuff-potions and there are a lot of items in every realm that have buff-charges. We even offer combi-regen-potions. Every potion has atleast 10 charges, many of them have up to 100. So no one needs to go out there without being buffed.

Yes, it is additional work to look for dual-loggers, but in our opinion it is totally worth it. We want people to group up, to do things together, to become a nice and friendly community and not a place where everyone is playing on his own. Maybe we are just dreamers, hoping to create a friendly & helpful MMORPG-Community, but this one of the main reasons to do this project.

If you are looking for a single player game, this is definitely the wrong game and server.

I've read you talking about potions a couple times and this question is a bit off topic but, Will the potions challenge clerics/druids/shamans in térms of Buff quality? I mean it's nice to have Buff pots you encourage soloing etc but for example a Shaman could be prescindible if everyone is using such pots in a server without buffshears.

Mon 9 Jul 2018 11:44 AM by

Uthred

This actually happened in alpha. Buff potions had the same value like yellow buffs from a shaman. So groups started running without a shaman. Thats why we lowered the value and changed the use-timer. Combi-potions cant be used for the first 60 secs after a rvr-fight. So if you die in a fight and get rezzed, you cant use the combi-potions for 60 secs.

Mon 9 Jul 2018 11:54 AM by Danaeh

Thanks for answering, yep thats a good solution I think, didn't read It anywhere else, sorry if It has already posted and thanks again. You're doing a great job.

Mon 9 Jul 2018 2:27 PM by Pao

Didn't know you can simulate such stress tests.

I am also against buffbots but I still would play here if there are buffbots allowed.

Thu 12 Jul 2018 5:25 AM by cdc

Closing topic. The answer to all buffbot questions is and has always been No, they will not be a part of Phoenix.