My #1 suggestion: Increase EXP rate in BGs so that it is feasible and efficient to level from 1-50 through RVR

How cool would that be?? They just need to adjust the EXP you get in RVR in the battlegrounds so that it would be reasonably fast leveling and attract players. Imagine a time when you were in Thid or Cale and there was just crazy action, it would be great if it was like that in all the BGs, and if it was like that all the time..

Leveling from 1-50 through RVR in the battlegrounds has never been done in the history of DAOC (that I can recall). It may have been possible, but the reality was that most of the BGs went mostly unused. EXP through RVR in the battlegrounds has always been significantly slower than PVE, so no one goes to most of the BGs, but some simple changes could totally change that. Whatever the current exp rate is for RVR, this value could be multiplied by some factor so that you could RVR 1-50 in about 48 hours for the casual player. Obviously they could go overboard and turn the BG into a cluster***, but I for one would welcome a "The BGs are totally crazy cause there are so many people because the XP is so good"... problem. However, we could worry that it could negatively impact PVE on the server, in which case the XP rate could be adjusted.

Many if not most would agree that RVR is what makes DAOC unique, but i50 servers have failed because you need a diverse community for the game to do well. Many would also agree that excessive PVE has a proven history of driving people away from the game.

The server has enough players to support PVE and RVR communities.

Feel free to change my mind but if they were active and I could level 1-50 through RVR in the battlegrounds and get feathers or something for gear during progression, DAOC would be the perfect game.

Sat 2 Feb 2019 6:38 PM by Geek

They made it easy to level in BGs on Live servers. I'd love a similar system for Phoenix.

Sat 2 Feb 2019 7:47 PM by jg777

First you’d have to add battlegrounds for 1-50, as right now it’s 20-35. I’d be open to a discussion on battleground modifications and additions. I agree that increasing Battleground activity early on would be benefitual. Primarily because bringing new players to the game is largely about the RvR experience so getting an early preview of RvR action for them would be nice and encourage them to continue on to 50 for Frontier RvR. I’m not sure I’d agree with Battlegrounds to 50, but certainly pre 35 it couldn’t hurt.

Sat 2 Feb 2019 9:03 PM by Quik

I have asked for this since beta and was shot down by the dev's as well as other players.

Sun 3 Feb 2019 10:43 PM by vocedeisogni

No thanks.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 12:00 AM by Fjordin

And add more BG's.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 1:02 AM by keen

Yes please, this the best change to XP on live ever made.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 6:42 AM by Turtle006

Since the BGs other than Thid are already a ghost town, why do you think adding more would change that?

Mon 4 Feb 2019 9:26 AM by Aerendil

Please no, that made the normal map a ghost town on live servers. Increase bonus on existing BG, but don't add any.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 10:24 AM by Nunki

Turtle006 wrote: ↑
Mon 4 Feb 2019 6:42 AM
Since the BGs other than Thid are already a ghost town, why do you think adding more would change that?

Which timezone?

I usually find enemies and at some point even zerg-action in all three bgs.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 11:00 AM by dudis

I disagree. IMO Most of the fun leveling on this server comes from exploring areas you havn't been to in decades and actually seeing other people everywhere around that are doing the same.

Maybe change the brackets to 1-24 and 34-39, to space the BGs out a bit, giving more variety?

Mon 4 Feb 2019 11:37 AM by randomeclipse

I'd be in favour of keeping people in the BG's and out of PvE.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 12:25 PM by Calconious

They can't add the same quests as live.... You can hit 50 in 5 hours, that's way too fast imo.

I do agree that they could increase exp from player kills only in there, and add a few more BG's to mess around in. I've leveled 3 characters past 40 already and the BG's have been mostly empty for all 3. I ran around the 25-29 BG on my hunter this weekend and saw 1 person in about 20 minutes.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 12:40 PM by jg777

Calconious wrote: ↑
Mon 4 Feb 2019 12:25 PM
They can't add the same quests as live.... You can hit 50 in 5 hours, that's way too fast imo.

I do agree that they could increase exp from player kills only in there, and add a few more BG's to mess around in. I've leveled 3 characters past 40 already and the BG's have been mostly empty for all 3. I ran around the 25-29 BG on my hunter this weekend and saw 1 person in about 20 minutes.

Perhaps make keep takes in Battlegrounds worth more experience points and maybe bounty or realm points too- that would require a group of players to achieve which would allow for other realms to have a reason to jump in their to defend the keep or participate in trying to take themselves, especially if you boost all that with player kills in Battle grounds too. Additionally, I still think adding a Battleground for lower level, like 15-20, would be nice as it allows for a chance for RvR action early on.

I think more players would like to participate in the Battlegrounds but since there isn’t as many in there routinely they find doing Realm tasks for Realm points easier and continue to grind in PvE outside Battlegrounds. There needs to be an increased incentive to use the Battlegrounds for that in some way- possibly make Realm tasks in Frontiers only active for characters after level 35 for example? But that may be leading the topic into unintended territory.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 3:27 PM by slunky45

I guess bgs from 1-50 would at least get players used to running around disorganized trying to rps early on.

And holy cow, this server is already bonuses and incentives everywhere, yet 75% of forum posts are people asking for more bonuses, more incentives. It's like a bunch of piglets asking for more milk! More nipples!

Judging by the number of characters I see named after adult film actors, I think the average commitment is that of a person that shows up to a party for free food.

Anyway, sure let's copy lives battlegrounds...why the hell not.

Mon 4 Feb 2019 6:36 PM by vocedeisogni

Aerendil wrote: ↑
Mon 4 Feb 2019 9:26 AM
Please no, that made the normal map a ghost town on live servers. Increase bonus on existing BG, but don't add any.

+

Tue 5 Feb 2019 12:24 AM by rubaduck

XPing is so darn easy on Phoenix, why increase it in BG's?

I get you want to "get some taste of the action" but BG ain't close to big boii rvr at all. It is a time consumer where you change your focus on a different gameplay, and when I do it, XP isn't even on my mind and I can't understand why xp should be on anyone's mind in a BG.

Group up or solo for eggs, it isn't difficult to choose one or the other. Oh.. and no thanks, we don't need more BG's, especially not one from 44-49 out of very good reasons!

Tue 5 Feb 2019 8:08 AM by zzhamzz1

Honestly I thought BG leveling was pretty fast, even considered xp off for a bit. Went through 20-24 and 30-34 BGs in just a few hundred kills. 25-29 was empty so went back to PvE for that.