Is afk farming illegal?
AFK farming
Started 1 Feb 2019
by
LordUberBiggie
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Fri 1 Feb 2019 12:52 PM
by
Sherany
Sherany
5. Hotkeys to auto queue attacks or spells, or any other action which we determine as an unfair advantage to your character.
(It is allowed to bind multiple actions to a key, however, delays, repeats, and conditions are strictly forbidden, as well as any other action that allows unattended game-play)
Yes, it is.
(It is allowed to bind multiple actions to a key, however, delays, repeats, and conditions are strictly forbidden, as well as any other action that allows unattended game-play)
Yes, it is.
Fri 1 Feb 2019 12:54 PM
by
LordUberBiggie
so a pet class going afk while their pet is on aggressive killing mobs would be illegal. Just want to be clear about it.
Fri 1 Feb 2019 12:58 PM
by
Sherany
Sherany
Yes it would be.
Fri 1 Feb 2019 1:27 PM
by
Koljar
Saw a minstrel doing that yesterday. While trying to find out how to appeal he came back and ran away.
Btw: Which /appeal topic would be correct in that case?
Btw: Which /appeal topic would be correct in that case?
Fri 1 Feb 2019 1:49 PM
by
Gwendolein
If AFK pet farming is illigal, it should be clearly stated in the rules. The rule you just posted tells nothing about it. A ench, cabby or SM can put the pet on aggro in a neutral mob spot and could afk for ages without the need to make a single spell / macro / action.
Based on the rules this would be allowed. Please adjust the rules / or confirm that it is a violation or none...
Best,
Gwen
Based on the rules this would be allowed. Please adjust the rules / or confirm that it is a violation or none...
Best,
Gwen
Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:26 PM
by
cortexqc
Sherany wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 12:52 PM5. Hotkeys to auto queue attacks or spells, or any other action which we determine as an unfair advantage to your character.
(It is allowed to bind multiple actions to a key, however, delays, repeats, and conditions are strictly forbidden, as well as any other action that allows unattended game-play)
Yes, it is.
pet Aggro mode is an basic action and is not an unattended gameplay design, i never see a game with this kind of design taking action for this use when aggro mode is a feature...
eventually games have auto disconnect if char don't move after 20mn. eventually only pet auto attack are not considered a hit and kill without player action don't give xp loot but that's all.
so if you create a new rules forbidding original action game design, be sure to claim it in BIG in your rules....
Fri 1 Feb 2019 5:22 PM
by
chryso
cortexqc wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:26 PMso if you create a new rules forbidding original action game design, be sure to claim it in BIG in your rules....
You asked a question. An actual mod answered your question and even bolded the part that applied to you.
If you just want to whine and complain about it, well, I have to admit, you came to the right place.
Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:21 PM
by
inoeth
"Unattended game play" is not rly clear... As someone said earlier aggro mode is not some kimd of hack, it is a basic action. Also going afk is not a crime. Imo that should be an extra rule or at least something that can not be interpreted differently.
I have already seen tons of bonedancers afk farming, this is very annoying since they block all the good spots and farm charge items while afk...
I have already seen tons of bonedancers afk farming, this is very annoying since they block all the good spots and farm charge items while afk...
Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:25 PM
by
Quik
inoeth wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:21 PM"Unattended game play" is not rly clear... As someone said earlier aggro mode is not some kimd of hack, it is a basic action. Also going afk is not a crime. Imo that should be an extra rule or at least something that can not be interpreted differently.
I have already seen tons of bonedancers afk farming, this is very annoying since they block all the good spots and farm charge items while afk...
Then /appeal that toon.
Putting pet on agro and going afk is to me a form of self PLing and to me it should fall under the 5-10 min afk rule. If they check and you are afk and don't respond then you should get a 3 day ban for using your pet while you're computer is unattended. It's really no different then a Hero using a macro system to keep attacking a mob while he goes afk, pet classes just don't need the macro's.
Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:28 PM
by
inoeth
Quik wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:25 PMinoeth wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:21 PM"Unattended game play" is not rly clear... As someone said earlier aggro mode is not some kimd of hack, it is a basic action. Also going afk is not a crime. Imo that should be an extra rule or at least something that can not be interpreted differently.
I have already seen tons of bonedancers afk farming, this is very annoying since they block all the good spots and farm charge items while afk...
Then /appeal that toon.
Putting pet on agro and going afk is to me a form of self PLing and to me it should fall under the 5-10 min afk rule. If they check and you are afk and don't respond then you should get a 3 day ban for using your pet while you're computer is unattended. It's really no different then a Hero using a macro system to keep attacking a mob while he goes afk, pet classes just don't need the macro's.
Yes they dont need macros because its a basic action for them!
Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:30 PM
by
chryso
inoeth wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:21 PM"Unattended game play" is not rly clear... As someone said earlier aggro mode is not some kimd of hack, it is a basic action. Also going afk is not a crime. Imo that should be an extra rule or at least something that can not be interpreted differently.
I have already seen tons of bonedancers afk farming, this is very annoying since they block all the good spots and farm charge items while afk...
Not really clear?
How is going afk with an aggressive pet not equal to unattended game play? It is perfectly clear.
Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:30 PM
by
Quik
Its a basic action of gameplay "if you are playing"...I personally still think it breaks the AFK rule if you put them on agro and walk away for 30 min.
Fri 1 Feb 2019 7:42 PM
by
Kaedius
cortexqc wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:26 PMpet Aggro mode is an basic action and is not an unattended gameplay design, i never see a game with this kind of design taking action for this use when aggro mode is a feature...
so if you create a new rules forbidding original action game design, be sure to claim it in BIG in your rules....
inoeth wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 6:21 PM"Unattended game play" is not rly clear... As someone said earlier aggro mode is not some kimd of hack, it is a basic action. Also going afk is not a crime. Imo that should be an extra rule or at least something that can not be interpreted differently.
I have already seen tons of bonedancers afk farming, this is very annoying since they block all the good spots and farm charge items while afk...
You are confusing the word unattended with unintended.
Unattended gameplay implies something allowing you to still play the game while not being at the computer or while not attending the computer, such as setting your pet to aggro and walking away.
They aren't saying setting your pet to aggro mode is an unintended game design, they are saying you can't use it to play the game unattended.
Fri 1 Feb 2019 11:16 PM
by
cortexqc
chryso wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 5:22 PMcortexqc wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:26 PMso if you create a new rules forbidding original action game design, be sure to claim it in BIG in your rules....
You asked a question. An actual mod answered your question and even bolded the part that applied to you.
If you just want to whine and complain about it, well, I have to admit, you came to the right place.
i don't complain, i don't even play pet char and doing afk aggro mode.
i just say there is no games where a basic action is considered like this.
you can't ban player for doing this...
you don't want player to use basic gameplay just change it.
- Code auto disconnect if no keyboard input from player after10 15 or 20mn
- Make pet kill without player spell no giving xp and loot
- Make XP items loots limited to 10 or not tradable
Fri 1 Feb 2019 11:41 PM
by
Quik
cortexqc wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 11:16 PMchryso wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 5:22 PMcortexqc wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 2:26 PMso if you create a new rules forbidding original action game design, be sure to claim it in BIG in your rules....
You asked a question. An actual mod answered your question and even bolded the part that applied to you.
If you just want to whine and complain about it, well, I have to admit, you came to the right place.
i don't complain, i don't even play pet char and doing afk aggro mode.
i just say there is no games where a basic action is considered like this.
you can't ban player for doing this...
you don't want player to use basic gameplay just change it.
- Code auto disconnect if no keyboard input from player after10 15 or 20mn
- Make pet kill without player spell no giving xp and loot
- Make XP items loots limited to 10 or not tradable
Or, people on the server can just follow the simple rules of logic that 99% of the people have no issues with.
Seriously, the game is not something the dev's should need to watch every player. Use a little common sense or else yes, you might get banned for a few days or permanent if you keep doing it.
It isn't hard to understand. I have no issues understanding it, lots of others have no issues. I have seen ONE person in game put pet on agro and never move after...ONE. Most people understand that it is the little things like afk farming that ruin the game for others.
Common courtesy and common sense, they will get you through everything here.
Sat 2 Feb 2019 3:10 AM
by
cortexqc
Quik wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 11:41 PMcortexqc wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 11:16 PMchryso wrote: ↑Fri 1 Feb 2019 5:22 PMYou asked a question. An actual mod answered your question and even bolded the part that applied to you.
If you just want to whine and complain about it, well, I have to admit, you came to the right place.
i don't complain, i don't even play pet char and doing afk aggro mode.
i just say there is no games where a basic action is considered like this.
you can't ban player for doing this...
you don't want player to use basic gameplay just change it.
- Code auto disconnect if no keyboard input from player after10 15 or 20mn
- Make pet kill without player spell no giving xp and loot
- Make XP items loots limited to 10 or not tradable
Or, people on the server can just follow the simple rules of logic that 99% of the people have no issues with.
Seriously, the game is not something the dev's should need to watch every player. Use a little common sense or else yes, you might get banned for a few days or permanent if you keep doing it.
It isn't hard to understand. I have no issues understanding it, lots of others have no issues. I have seen ONE person in game put pet on agro and never move after...ONE. Most people understand that it is the little things like afk farming that ruin the game for others.
Common courtesy and common sense, they will get you through everything here.
logic rules? there is no logic rules in a game or even in real life and this is why rules exist !
my car run 280km/h
i live in Germany i have no limit speed on highway i run 280
i live in France i can run 130km/h
120 km/h in spain.
in EU i drive right in england is left.
on a game if the game design permit something, this something is always allowed (in any game). if it's a game bug or exploit it's prohibited.
on original server aggro mode is permit since release. same as buffbot or dual login. or any PL with a friend little level AFK or not
here (buff)bot are prohibited and the rules clearly say it.
dual login too
macroing /script too, same as all MMO Games rules.
There is no AFK rules (in group or alone with pet aggro or anything else) only afk word is not against AFK but for not be considered dual login : If you are playing from the same household and one of you has to AFK for more than 10 minutes, make sure to log out of the game as you might get tested for dual logging. If, after 10 minutes, the test fails, the ban will be applied. it's not and AFK ban but an Dual logging suspicion BAN.
The "unatended" is linked to macroing/script rules and is here to say any kind of third software automated leveling tools
anyway if like you say devs don't want to have to check every player not moving in a group or alone, they can easily add a timeout or block xp items looting (and avoid some player (high level) AFK farming it)
So plz take your "common sense" for you cause your common sense is not "the point of view of all"
Like i say i'm playing since start of beta i never played AFK grouped (PL) or solo (with a pet) but i understand the initial post subjet my point of view is if there is particular rules about AFK, update rules !
Sat 2 Feb 2019 3:25 AM
by
Kaedius
cortexqc wrote: ↑Sat 2 Feb 2019 3:10 AMThere is no AFK rules (in group or alone with pet aggro or anything else) only afk word is not against AFK but for not be considered dual login : If you are playing from the same household and one of you has to AFK for more than 10 minutes, make sure to log out of the game as you might get tested for dual logging. If, after 10 minutes, the test fails, the ban will be applied. it's not and AFK ban but an Dual logging suspicion BAN.
The "unatended" is linked to macroing/script rules and is here to say any kind of third software automated leveling tools
Look at this sentence:
...are strictly forbidden as well as any other means that allow unattended game-play
Putting your pet on aggro in the middle of a camp of mobs is a means by which you can play the game unattended. That is therefore strictly forbidden.
It's very, very straight forward.
But maybe you're right, and they should explicitly add "This includes setting a pet to aggro and going AFK" just to be perfectly clear.
Sat 2 Feb 2019 4:04 AM
by
Bradekes
Kaedius wrote: ↑Sat 2 Feb 2019 3:25 AMLook at this sentence:
...are strictly forbidden as well as any other means that allow unattended game-play
Putting your pet on aggro in the middle of a camp of mobs is a means by which you can play the game unattended. That is therefore strictly forbidden.
It's very, very straight forward.
But maybe you're right, and they should explicitly add "This includes setting a pet to aggro and going AFK" just to be perfectly clear.
Look at this real quick
5. Hotkeys to auto queue attacks or spells, or any other action which we determine as an unfair advantage to your character.
The problem here is what is defined as an unfair advantage. Per their rules, I know a GM is saying otherwise, but there is no actual unfair advantage to be gained from AFK farming on a class designed to do so. There is no foul play afoot. I do not see how this can be cited as the main statement of the rule is a completely different context of abuse and cannot be assumed as to how it is meant.
There honestly needs to be added rules if they are going to enforce them. Losing all your characters is a huge, huge first warning, and if some GM just rolled up on my AFK BD or Enchanter whose pet was on aggro and deleted all my characters and banned my account without due reason I would quit this server.
Clear up the rules GM's!!! We need a good reference with no questions for things like this that are easily added with such a big repercussion.
Sat 2 Feb 2019 5:25 AM
by
Numatic
Bradekes wrote: ↑Sat 2 Feb 2019 4:04 AMKaedius wrote: ↑Sat 2 Feb 2019 3:25 AMLook at this sentence:
...are strictly forbidden as well as any other means that allow unattended game-play
Putting your pet on aggro in the middle of a camp of mobs is a means by which you can play the game unattended. That is therefore strictly forbidden.
It's very, very straight forward.
But maybe you're right, and they should explicitly add "This includes setting a pet to aggro and going AFK" just to be perfectly clear.
Look at this real quick
5. Hotkeys to auto queue attacks or spells, or any other action which we determine as an unfair advantage to your character.
The problem here is what is defined as an unfair advantage. Per their rules, I know a GM is saying otherwise, but there is no actual unfair advantage to be gained from AFK farming on a class designed to do so. There is no foul play afoot. I do not see how this can be cited as the main statement of the rule is a completely different context of abuse and cannot be assumed as to how it is meant.
There honestly needs to be added rules if they are going to enforce them. Losing all your characters is a huge, huge first warning, and if some GM just rolled up on my AFK BD or Enchanter whose pet was on aggro and deleted all my characters and banned my account without due reason I would quit this server.
Clear up the rules GM's!!! We need a good reference with no questions for things like this that are easily added with such a big repercussion.
This one
5. Hotkeys to auto queue attacks or spells, or any other action which we determine as an unfair advantage to your character
That's because they can't clarify. Let's say your character bugs out and you can insta kill raid bosses. Do you think you should be allowed to do that? No. What if something wierd happened and you could stand on a campfire and pull mobs without getting hit? If its obviously giving you an unfair advantage, it's not allowed. They spelled out specific game mechanics that you are not allowed to do, such as macroing, but the "unfair advantage" encompasses the unforeseen things that could still be an exploit or considered unfair. Those CANT be clarified because of the unpredictability. That is what an unfair advantage is.
As for afk farming, afk while gaining anything for an extended period of time is considered botting. This goes back to UNATTENDED gameplay. You can put your pet on aggro and farm all you want. So long as you are at the computer.
Definition
Unattanded- not supervised or looked after.
Not to be confused with
Unintended- not planned or meant
Sat 2 Feb 2019 1:35 PM
by
Bradekes
Numatic wrote: ↑Sat 2 Feb 2019 5:25 AMDefinition
Unattanded- not supervised or looked after.
Not to be confused with
Unintended- not planned or meant
I'm not confusing the words... You just don't seem to understand the problem that the unclear rules present. This would be an easy clarification to add... Them choosing not to include important details will continue to confuse players. If you look at their harse repercussions to rule 5 you have to understand they weren't intending this to cover afk pet pulls...
Sat 2 Feb 2019 4:00 PM
by
chryso
Perhaps you should open your own server with rules that even you can understand.
Sun 3 Feb 2019 7:40 AM
by
exveer
No, that's actually super unclear. If they're saying AFK farming is illegal (I was lead to believe this was legal before go-live but you were still responsible for your pet attacking others tagged mobs, if it did so), they need to be explicit about it in a separate rule so it's not hidden under an item titled "Macroing" (which is explicitly distinct from what we're talking about). Based upon this thread have no idea why afk crafting is legal, since that is also an "other action that allows unattended game-play".
It seems the language on the page might have changed recently, because it's more clear now than what Sherany posted; it now says:
"as well as any other means that allow unattended game-play"
instead of
"as well as any other action that allows unattended game-play" (and if it did still say action, I'd strongly argue "sitting around with my pet out" does not constitute an action -- nothing's being done. Probably why the change was made).
Please make this more clear before taking action on it. I've not heard of any afk farmers getting banned, but it would super suck if someone did get banned for having read the rules and not re-read them since they were edited.
Also, some clarity around what defines unattended would be welcome, although, in fairness, not necessarily expected.
As a side, does this apply to scenarios where my pet is on Defensive, not Aggro, and mobs attack me? I assume so, but want to confirm.
It seems the language on the page might have changed recently, because it's more clear now than what Sherany posted; it now says:
"as well as any other means that allow unattended game-play"
instead of
"as well as any other action that allows unattended game-play" (and if it did still say action, I'd strongly argue "sitting around with my pet out" does not constitute an action -- nothing's being done. Probably why the change was made).
Please make this more clear before taking action on it. I've not heard of any afk farmers getting banned, but it would super suck if someone did get banned for having read the rules and not re-read them since they were edited.
Also, some clarity around what defines unattended would be welcome, although, in fairness, not necessarily expected.
As a side, does this apply to scenarios where my pet is on Defensive, not Aggro, and mobs attack me? I assume so, but want to confirm.
Sun 3 Feb 2019 6:02 PM
by
LordUberBiggie
Wow, I was not trying to start a fight. I just wanted confirmation on something. I fully support making afk farming illegal (pet classes putting their pets on aggressive and going afk) It does give them an unfair leveling advantage. Pet classes already level much faster than say stealthers, tanks etc they don't need to be freaking lazy and get an even bigger advantage. If you feel the need to afk to play this game then may I suggest this may not be the game for you.
Mon 4 Feb 2019 6:23 AM
by
Drunkgrunt11b
As a pet class you don't even have to put your pet on aggressive just find a spot your pets can handle and sit down. I personally don't see a problem with it. are we afraid there's going to be to many pet classes on the server? Just let them afk farm because the server is going to boot them for being afk anyway unless they are using a macro to keep themselves in game and then they should get a ban.
Mon 4 Feb 2019 8:54 AM
by
LordUberBiggie
Drunkgrunt11b wrote: ↑Mon 4 Feb 2019 6:23 AMAs a pet class you don't even have to put your pet on aggressive just find a spot your pets can handle and sit down. I personally don't see a problem with it. are we afraid there's going to be to many pet classes on the server? Just let them afk farm because the server is going to boot them for being afk anyway unless they are using a macro to keep themselves in game and then they should get a ban.
Ok you are still doing nothing while getting experience and leveling. I think that is the point. I don't care if you sit down instead of putting your pet on aggressive. It amounts to the same thing. You are trying to argue semantics. You are still going afk, you are still benefiting/having an advantage over non-pet classes. I have a Minstrel and could do the same thing if I really wanted to. I don't because its clearly being lazy and violates the intention of the rule in my view. Again, if you have a hard time being at your computer while playing maybe play another game.
Mon 4 Feb 2019 8:16 PM
by
Quik
LordUberBiggie wrote: ↑Mon 4 Feb 2019 8:54 AMDrunkgrunt11b wrote: ↑Mon 4 Feb 2019 6:23 AMAs a pet class you don't even have to put your pet on aggressive just find a spot your pets can handle and sit down. I personally don't see a problem with it. are we afraid there's going to be to many pet classes on the server? Just let them afk farm because the server is going to boot them for being afk anyway unless they are using a macro to keep themselves in game and then they should get a ban.
Ok you are still doing nothing while getting experience and leveling. I think that is the point. I don't care if you sit down instead of putting your pet on aggressive. It amounts to the same thing. You are trying to argue semantics. You are still going afk, you are still benefiting/having an advantage over non-pet classes. I have a Minstrel and could do the same thing if I really wanted to. I don't because its clearly being lazy and violates the intention of the rule in my view. Again, if you have a hard time being at your computer while playing maybe play another game.
This 100%
It is COMMON SENSE and COURTESY.
There is no reason to go afk farming. If you are going to afk just go somewhere and wait. Putting your pet on agro and walking away takes camps away from other players that might want it while you are AFK...that is 100% simply being rude...no excuses.
People can argue the little points, but use your head and stop trying to exploit every little rule.
3 day ban for afk farming followed by loss of toon followed by permaban would be my vote.
Tue 5 Feb 2019 1:17 AM
by
exveer
I mean... you can't really afk farm an entire camp... but if you want to create a strawman full camp pulling pet class, feel free. Imagine if that pet class was actually manned! The horror.
Games are meant to be exploited; if you can't exploit a game, it's boring. For example, a Sorc releasing a pet to break mez. An exploit. Releasing a mezzed pet so you can have an active pet. An exploit, sort of. Summoning a buff pet, taking the buff, releasing it in favor of another pet. Another exploit. And we haven't even gotten off of pet tricks yet, and are in far more complex territory than the topic under discussion. Ideally the game speaks for itself and you're not allowed to do what you're not allowed to do by way of mechanics, and only when you add components from outside the game might you get a punishment akin to a ban (or all characters being deleted wat?). For example, an application that clicks 1 2 3 every 5 seconds to farm infinitely. But when the game allows you to easily do something as easily as set a pet on Aggro, walk away from your computer, and you get banned for it -- lolwut? That's just silly.
Games are meant to be exploited; if you can't exploit a game, it's boring. For example, a Sorc releasing a pet to break mez. An exploit. Releasing a mezzed pet so you can have an active pet. An exploit, sort of. Summoning a buff pet, taking the buff, releasing it in favor of another pet. Another exploit. And we haven't even gotten off of pet tricks yet, and are in far more complex territory than the topic under discussion. Ideally the game speaks for itself and you're not allowed to do what you're not allowed to do by way of mechanics, and only when you add components from outside the game might you get a punishment akin to a ban (or all characters being deleted wat?). For example, an application that clicks 1 2 3 every 5 seconds to farm infinitely. But when the game allows you to easily do something as easily as set a pet on Aggro, walk away from your computer, and you get banned for it -- lolwut? That's just silly.
Tue 5 Feb 2019 3:45 AM
by
Quik
exveer wrote: ↑Tue 5 Feb 2019 1:17 AMI mean... you can't really afk farm an entire camp... but if you want to create a strawman full camp pulling pet class, feel free. Imagine if that pet class was actually manned! The horror.
Games are meant to be exploited; if you can't exploit a game, it's boring. For example, a Sorc releasing a pet to break mez. An exploit. Releasing a mezzed pet so you can have an active pet. An exploit, sort of. Summoning a buff pet, taking the buff, releasing it in favor of another pet. Another exploit. And we haven't even gotten off of pet tricks yet, and are in far more complex territory than the topic under discussion. Ideally the game speaks for itself and you're not allowed to do what you're not allowed to do by way of mechanics, and only when you add components from outside the game might you get a punishment akin to a ban (or all characters being deleted wat?). For example, an application that clicks 1 2 3 every 5 seconds to farm infinitely. But when the game allows you to easily do something as easily as set a pet on Aggro, walk away from your computer, and you get banned for it -- lolwut? That's just silly.
You can try to sugar coat however you want...the simple truth is leaving your pet on afk while you go afk for an extended period of time is exploiting just like buff bots.
The staff has banned and will continue to ban unless you show you are at your computer.
I RARELY ever say this, but if you can't handle a simple and common courtesy like this, maybe you should consider another server *shrug*
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:01 AM
by
exveer
What's your sig say?
"It's a game and a game is meant to be enjoyed by everyone, not just a select few who want everyone to play their way!"
As someone who solo farms a lot, most of the mobs that are farmable at 50 are very rarely camped by anybody, because you're either farming bigger mobs in groups, or groups that are the level that 'could' farm those mobs are at more typical farming mobs (read as: Finns, Redcaps, etc.) In the spot I regularly camp, I've seen all of 6 people there, ever.
Fundamentally, though, I don't care if it's someone taking a single spawn of a camp, taking a whole camp, dominating RvR singlehandedly, or what. It's about how silly it is that you can use ingame mechanics to get banned.
"It's a game and a game is meant to be enjoyed by everyone, not just a select few who want everyone to play their way!"
As someone who solo farms a lot, most of the mobs that are farmable at 50 are very rarely camped by anybody, because you're either farming bigger mobs in groups, or groups that are the level that 'could' farm those mobs are at more typical farming mobs (read as: Finns, Redcaps, etc.) In the spot I regularly camp, I've seen all of 6 people there, ever.
Fundamentally, though, I don't care if it's someone taking a single spawn of a camp, taking a whole camp, dominating RvR singlehandedly, or what. It's about how silly it is that you can use ingame mechanics to get banned.
Tue 5 Feb 2019 4:26 AM
by
rocketait
Oh crap better ban me, I was afk alot! But not with a pet but afk in group. My computer unattended and the game playing, getting loot and exp like crazy.
So the details: I'm a pally, got Endo chant up (one action to put it up, same as agro button on pet) I also got gaurd (ya also one button press like a agro stance on pet) on my bud and im stuck to him. He is running around killing crap I'm watching a movie and click some buttons so I don't log out (sometimes I even look at the screen when I press the button if the movies not so good)
If clicking one button and going afk is unattended game play, then everyone in a 8 man who runs to the bathroom but has buffed someone, has a chant or song going should also be banned..
You see how silly you totally self explanatory rule is? It need to be defiend atlest make a nod to pets or something if it is bannable. We all have different backgrounds in games and some people might assume afk in keep to wait for realm timers to come back to be unattended gameplay (that timer is part of the game and you are skipping it without doing anything at your computer) when others seem to think it only means rocks to hold keyboard buttons down or complex programs to mimic human actions while user is afk (I was in this Rick's and programs train of thought before I saw this)
So the details: I'm a pally, got Endo chant up (one action to put it up, same as agro button on pet) I also got gaurd (ya also one button press like a agro stance on pet) on my bud and im stuck to him. He is running around killing crap I'm watching a movie and click some buttons so I don't log out (sometimes I even look at the screen when I press the button if the movies not so good)
If clicking one button and going afk is unattended game play, then everyone in a 8 man who runs to the bathroom but has buffed someone, has a chant or song going should also be banned..
You see how silly you totally self explanatory rule is? It need to be defiend atlest make a nod to pets or something if it is bannable. We all have different backgrounds in games and some people might assume afk in keep to wait for realm timers to come back to be unattended gameplay (that timer is part of the game and you are skipping it without doing anything at your computer) when others seem to think it only means rocks to hold keyboard buttons down or complex programs to mimic human actions while user is afk (I was in this Rick's and programs train of thought before I saw this)
Tue 5 Feb 2019 2:54 PM
by
Wohop
This is the most bizarre post I’ve seen in a while. Half the people genuinely don’t understand the meaning of the words they’re complaining about. Then others give ridiculous arguments trying to justify literally not playing the game while receiving the exact same reward/competitive advantage as the other guy who’s actually putting the time and effort in.
It’s beyond clear that you guys are always right and hell will freeze over before you budge on anything ever so I won’t repeat the rules you agreed to for the 9th time. This post is a gruesome car crash and I couldn’t help but look.
It’s beyond clear that you guys are always right and hell will freeze over before you budge on anything ever so I won’t repeat the rules you agreed to for the 9th time. This post is a gruesome car crash and I couldn’t help but look.
Wed 6 Feb 2019 10:48 AM
by
Mac
Substitute ALL of the rules with ONE simple rule: "Don't be a dick!"
Is it being a dick to farm a camp with pets while your player is afk for a few minutes? Probably not. How about for hours? Yes, that is dickish, don't do it or risk being banned.
Is it being a dick to farm a camp with pets while your player is afk for a few minutes? Probably not. How about for hours? Yes, that is dickish, don't do it or risk being banned.
Wed 6 Feb 2019 5:16 PM
by
Quik
Mac wrote: ↑Wed 6 Feb 2019 10:48 AMSubstitute ALL of the rules with ONE simple rule: "Don't be a dick!"
Is it being a dick to farm a camp with pets while your player is afk for a few minutes? Probably not. How about for hours? Yes, that is dickish, don't do it or risk being banned.
This is as simple as it gets.
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